CS3 printer profiles (icc & icm) have disappeared.

I am running under XP SP3 with Photoshop CS3 version 10.0.1 with an Epson R2400. All of the profiles are present in windows/system32/spool/drivers/color, but are not listed in Photoshop's printer profile list. Everything was working fine as recently as 3-4 weeks ago, and everything is still working fine in CS2 which is also installed on this machine (3.7gig processor with 1gig ram) and several large hard drives).
I noticed the problem after installing SP3 today, but the problem remained after I restored a Ghost image created just prior to the SP3 update. Thus, it seems not to be caused by SP3. I have reinstalled SP3 based on that conclusion.
The only items on the printer profile list look like things that ship with Photoshop such as Apple RGB.

Sorry, but it is NOT a screen resolution problem. As I said, up until a few weeks ago, everything worked fine. Printer profiles are displayed, but, I suspect, ONLY the ones which ship with Photoshop. Other profiles, such as those for the 2400R are NOT displayed even though they exist in the correct location. I can see the entire profile list, and there are no scrolling controls being displayed.
Options were reset before I posted this issue. The reset did not help.

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