CS4 (6.0.3) indesign slow

...Especially undo, I often end up overshooting the number of undos I need. the whole thing feels sluggish (i've just moved from CS2). Does graphics card effect performance? I'm on an XP32 box with a 2.7 Ghz core2 duo and "3.5 Gb of Ram" . (On "typical" display performance). Is this a "feature' or is it possible that I have an issue that can fix it?
examples: move a text box, hit undo, wait nearly 2 seconds to see the box move back again. Even zooming out I have to wait about half a second for the page to redraw.
Do you mind if I have a quick vent?
Is it too much to expect an upgrade will actually improve your basic user experience of a program? Every one of more core adobe apps has been worse in CS4 than CS2. Do I need to budget on replacing my computer every time I do A CS update?

I have a similar system with less RAM, and no performance issues at all.
How much open drive sapce do you have? Do you have hyperlinks or cross refes in the document? Id the file local or on a network? What about the links?
Peter

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Hello there,
First, sorry for my english i'm French.
One of my collegue is experiencing issue with CS6 indesign.
Installed in a PC with Intel core i7 370 2.93/2.93 gHZ, 16 GB RAM.
Windows seven 64 bits.
Once he open a files of more than 10 Mb in Indisign and open in the same times Bridge or photoshop to integrate pictures or illustrator the PC get really slow and the users must wait several minutes to get the work done.
I never use myself The CS6 so I don't know if this behaviour is normal.
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http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/366002250041?r=44500325004 1#445003250041
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Well, I'm sure you already know that InDesign is known to be touchy when working over a network, because otherwise your parenthetical comment
Yes, I am (as I always do) working over a network.
would be unnececssary. Also, I gather from this comment (emphasis mine):
Actually, I only added that because I expected people to say "it's a network issue". So I was emphasising that working of the network is normal for me. The only time I had issue working over a network was with Premiere Pro or AE on my old machine, but the network issue there was only marginal, since the CPU was pegging out.
In short, working over the network was never been an issue for me.
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My display driver is smack up to date, but yes, that doesn't mean it is flaw free. I'm using a gtx 460 (which is two cards in one).
I need to rule out that it is not the ai files though, so let me look there for a bit. As a final test, I may downgrade my display driver to see if there is any difference. I remember with my old cards at some point I had trouble and had to stay a few releases back, or I'd suffer.
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