CS4 ACR 5.7 with LR3 ACR 6.1

I'm planning on upgrading to LR3 imminently, but continuing to use PS CS4 for awhile until I can afford to upgrade my CS4 suite to CS5. So what happens when I open a RAW file that was edited in LR3 in CS4? Do I just lose the new features like lens profiles, but otherwise the rendering is very close or would I experience problems?

My question after reading through all this is a little more from the perspective of a newbie who has been using LR3B2 for a couple of months and intends to upgrade to LR3 very shortly - most likely this weekend when I have the time. When I upgrade to LR3 (full edition) will it automatically bring ACR 6.1 with it, or do I have to download it from somewhere else. I have already upgraded my version of Elements 8 to use ACR 6.1 - will LR3 detects its existence and know where to find it., or do I have to maintain two versions for each application.
On a related item, should I also be downloading/updating to the latest version of DNG as well - I believe that is also 6.1. Insight please and thanks.
Regards,
WesternGuy

Similar Messages

ACR color difference with PS CS4

I tried a search and can't find a thread about what I'm seeing, so I'm posting in the hopes that others may be seeing the same thing.
I have PS CS4 and ACR 5.3 (latest patches) on a Windows XP Pro computer. I use Adobe RGB as my working space and profile my dual monitors with an Eye One Display2. I recently started experimenting with using ACR to edit tif files, but I noticed that while the image is loaded in the ACR window it looks quite different color wise than the Bridge thumbnail or within CS4 (after opening it as a smart object). The look in ACR is similar to what the same image looks like in CS4 with the ColorMatch profile assigned to the image (i.e. quite a bit brighter and lacking saturation).
Here's the weird things:
When I first open the tif image, it looks correct as long as the exclaimation mark is present on the preview window. Once the file is fully processed and that icon disappears the image color makes the dramatic change. If I then make no changes and simply open the image in CS4, then it's back to the original "correct" colors.
If I zoom in the ACR preview to 50% or higher, then the color difference is negligible if not entirely gone, but I can't edit an 8000x5000 without seeing the entire image.
Here's what I have tried:
Turned off all OpenGL features
Verified my monitor profile was being recognized by CS4
Ensured my color settings didn't get changed (preserve profiles is on, as well as ask on mismatch)
Tested them with an image that was a known mismatch and it asked what I should do as expected
I tried PS CS3 and ACR 4.x with the same result
Stripped out XMP metadata with Exiftool to see if that may have been an issue - it wasn't
I'm hoping someone else has an idea what is causing this or if it's a known issue. Any ideas or confirmation on what I'm seeing would be appreciated.
Craig

cssadobe wrote:
It doesn't matter which space is set, the display of the image is always the same in ACR.
Holy cow! If that's the case in your setup, you have a HUGE problem, Craig.
You should definitely see a big difference in the ACR preview when you set your ACR worflow options to ProPhoto RGB compared to either Adobe RGB or sRGB. If you don't, either your monitor is not accurately calibrated and profiled, or it's a lousy narrow-gamut monitor, or your color management is broken.
EDIT: It could be that the scan was not really made in ProPhoto RGB but was converted by the lab to that profile, in which case then, yes, you would see no difference because the true, original color space was and remains narrower and smaller than the lowest common denominator, which could well be anything, including Color Match or sRGB (and we all know what the s stands for in sRGB!).
cssadobe wrote:
Since PS CS4 created the tiff, the preview and the actual image data should be identical in my opinion. Would you agree with that? I don't know why PS would create a preview that was not identical in display characteristics to the actual image.
No, I would not agree with that. No reasonable person can expect a low-resolution, JPEG-like preview embedded in the TIFF to look identical to the TIFF. Information has to be discarded to generate the preview. But that's beyond the scope of ACR.
What I would expect is that ACR would render a better display from the original data in the TIFF than what the mediocre embedded preview can generate.
cssadobe wrote:
If I zoom in on the image in ACR to at least 50%, then the difference seems to disappear.
Well, duh! You only see the real image when you view it at 100%. The farther you get from 100%, the more information is either being discarded (at anything less than 100%) or made up, invented at greater than 100%. 50% is still not as good as 100%, but it's definitely better than the miserably low 8.7% view you were using when you made that last screen shot.
Seeing that you have severe problems with your display, as suggested by the first paragraph in this post, there seems to be no point in discussing in detail any of the discrepancies you mention, most especially at any other view that is not actual pixels (100%).
I'll have to read the thread again when I have the time to see if you have said when you calibrated your monitor last and how, what your color settings are, what monitors you're running, etc.
I validate the calibration on my monitors practically on a daily basis with a hardware calibrator puck.
But, ultimately, viewing a large scan at a dismal 8.7% you can't make any of the judgments you are trying to make.

ACR 6.x with Photoshop Macintosh vs. Photoshop Windows ?

Any thoughts or preferences on using ACR 6.x with Photoshop Macintosh or Photoshop Windows?
I need to buy an update from CS4 for either Macintosh or Windows version of the application.
Unfortunately, either one will be used on a laptop, just for ACR. My main desktop machines are legacy Power Mac G5 Quads, and I have legitimate Photoshop licenses for both Mac and Windows and own a MacBook and a Windows Vista laptop.
Thanks in advance for any and all comments.

My personal 2 cents worth:
Some years ago I bought a Dell laptop for my son. It was a top of the line $3K+ model, and from being DOA right out of the box when it arrived it never gave us anything but trouble. Virtually every part in the thing except the case was replaced at least once by Dell under their extended warranty (glad I bought that!). Hard drive failure after hard drive failure, motherboard failures, bad connectors, bad display... The list goes on and on. He never abused the thing - it just sat on his desk.
Then we bought him a Macbook. Not a pro model, nothing special, just a $1200 model, because he liked it. That was 4 years ago. He's still using it in college.
That Macbook has now gone 4 years with exactly ONE fault: The power supply cord frayed at the connector, and the power supply had to be replaced, which the Apple Store did immediately under AppleCare, no questions asked.
If I ever buy another laptop it will be an Apple, even if I plan to run Windows on it.
-Noel

Which Camera Calibration Profile for Leica M8 with LR3?

I see there are 4 camera profiles for the Leica M8 that all produce significantly different results - ACR3.6 and 4.4 and Adobe Standard and Camera Standard. Any advice on which to use and when?
Thanks in advance.

ACR 3.6 (this is the Adobe standard profile) when support was first introduced.
ACR 4.4 (with this version of ACR) Adobe created an updated standard profile.
Adobe standard, this is the latest profile introduced during ACR 5.x, just a new naming method
Camera standard, this is a profile created by Adobe to simulate the profile by the M8 to produce in camera jpegs.
Use the one that pleases you most, as a starting point then create your own presets to make further adjustments.

Cs4 opens cs3 files with errors

Here's a big heads up for anyone considering upgrading to cs4 - don't! I've been working on a cs3 project and decided to upgrade to cs4 for the extras in the 3D toolset. All the Adobe propoganda implies this can be achieved no problem, as did soemone on telephone tech support. Perhaps I didn't clearly ask 'can I open my cs3 file in cs4'. I can BUT the clips are very much 'out of synch. I'll lick my wounds and go back to finishing in cs3 but don't purchase cs4 if you think you can seamless import your sc3 project. Because it seems you very much can not!

Dennis,
Many thanks.
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:21:44 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [removed]
Subject: Premiere Pro cs4 opens cs3 files with errors
Jarrod,
As I've stated here in this forum, we're trying to transition Adobe technical support to a new organization and providing the best support we can to our customers. That being said, it is a long and sometimes painful process, which is why I am here on the forums at times to lend some support. This doesn't help you and you might not even care so...
Here's a couple of suggestions:
1. make sure your software is updated (Premiere Pro 4.2.1) by going to help>updates
2. clear your prefs - http://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2009/11/having_weird_behavior_with_an.html
3. try importing (ctrl-I) a CS3 project into CS4
Try these things and let me know how you make out. Also, it would be very helpful if you told us about your system and the specs. I've posted about the importance of 64-bit and lots of memory many times. You can find one link here: http://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2009/03/64_bit_os_and_adobe_products.html
The future of Premiere Pro is 64-bit only: http://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2009/10/its_official_64bit_is_the_futu.html
Beyond that if you'd like me to look into your case, please post your case # here or in a private message to me and I'll gladly look at it.
I sense your frustration and its understandable - give us a chance to help you.
Dennis
>

Installing CS4 to Macbook Pro with Retina Display

Hi, I just got a Macbook Pro with the Retina Display and I have tried installing CS4 to it, but apparently the version of adobe air does not exist. I do not know if this has anything to do with the flash storage since adobe products do not work with it. I installed CS4 to my iMac just fine. I read on another forum that CS4 is not compatible with the Macbook Pro with Retina Display and there were people who suggested installing CS6.
However, I also read that adobe is just installing retina display support to the products in the upcoming Fall to some of the CS6 applications (not including InDesign, which I need). Should I switch to the Macbook Pro w/o Retina display?

Adobe CS4 applications do not work properly with Mountain Lion 10.8. See table:
http://roaringapps.com/apps:table
CS6 works fine. I believe Adobe updated CS6 to work better with retina display. Check at the Adobe web site:
http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog.html?promoid=KAWQI
Should you switch or not is your decision.

Is adobe Cs4 design premium compatible with macbook pro 2011?

I just bought a macbook pro 2011, 2.2 ghz quad core i7 to work with my adobe design premium 4. I heard many software have problems with mac os lion. I got so worry and want to return the macbook. Does anyone know if i can run adobe cs4 on this new macbook pro or should i return it? Thank for your responses.

i am running design premium CS4 on a Pro with Lion and have had no real problems. using DW, PS, ID, FL and BR without any issues.
NB: WHEN YOU INSTALL, BE SURE YOU NOMINATE A SUBFOLDER IN YOUR APPLICATIONS TO INSTALL TO, OR YOUR APPLICATIONS FOLDER WILL BE OVERTAKEN WITH CS4 ICONS.
apologies for the caps, but this is really important. I didn't do this and it resulted in the only problem i am having with the software, which is not a huge deal, only affecting AME as far as i can tell, though I can't figure out how to fix it, have asked on this forum without luck (so far!)
hope this helps

Cs3 and cs4 web standard compatible with vista home basic?

Are Adobe CS3 and CS4 Web Standard compatible with Vista Home Basic 32bit?
I only see Windows Vista Home Premium / Vista Business / Vista Enterprise / Vista Ultimate / XP listed as compatible.
Many thanks.

Vista didn't exist when CS3 was released and as such, there is no official statement regard compatibility of CS3 with Vista Home Basic.
For CS4, we are very explicit. CS4 is not at all supported for Vista Home Basic (there are a number of networking and service support components that Microsoft leaves out of their Home Basic versions).
- Dov

Import AVCHD videos with LR3

Hello. I would like import AVCHD videos (with m2ts extension) with LR3 but I don´t know how to do it. Please, could you help me?
Thank you very much.

Lee Jay wrote:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2879442#2879442
Glad you pointed to that thread; the message was proven repeatedly to be erroneous and misleading. Windows natively supports AVCHD (e.g., Windows Media Player, Windows Media Center). All new consumer and most new professional HD video capture devices (including all forthcoming Nikon D-SLRs) use AVCHD rather than, say, the .MOV format that you do support which actually is NOT supported natively in Windows and requires a QuickTime install.
Again, it is a trivial task to have Lightroom recognize/catalog/playback AVCHD files. About an hour's work programming-wise to incorporate AVCHD capability into Lightroom's shell (and Adobe can simply let pre-Windows 7 users know that they'll get AVCHD support when they upgrade to Windows 7).

Anti-virus Software Interfering with LR3

Just figured I'd post a note concerning at least one LR3 issue of mine being caused by seemingly harmless software running alongside.
I had been having issues with LR3 when deleting photographs, issues that arose as early as LR3 beta 1. Sometimes LR3 would randomly hang up, taking up to a minute to delete only 4 or 5 photographs. Occassionally, it would freeze up and I'd be forced to go into the Task Manager, kill the lightroom.exe process, and restart the application. My posts about this on the LR3 beta forums yielded no leads.
Today I started having the problem again with LR3. While waiting for it to finish deleting, I noticed that the system tray icon for Avast! Antivirus was spinning around (indicating it was 'working'). Out of curiosity I decided to disable Avast! and, all of the sudden, the problem was solved. Now LR3 just deletes photographs instantly without a single hiccup. Here I had thought LR3 had this very annoying bug, when it was an incidental lack of compatability with my anti-virus software all along. Well, I suppose it can still be called a bug... but at least it is a bug that can be remedied without waiting for an LR3 update.
I don't know if this can help others, but try to disable your anti-virus software in temporary tests to see if performance of LR3 improves. Antivirus didn't affect LR3s overall performance in my case, but given my discovery it is reasonable to think that other anti-virus softwares could potentially be bogging down LR3 on others machines in different ways.

I would accept that if not for the fact that lightroom 2 worked perfectly
in the same setup and catalog.
I'm going to try selectivly disabling the virus checker on some directories until i find the correct one.
Best Wishes,
Darren McInnes

Help with LR3: Won't open files in CS4 anymore, no changes have been made

I've searched and read that this has been a problem. Can someone walk me through how to fix it please? LR3 and CS4 haven't been changed, or even used for the last week. It was fine, now today it doesn't work at all. I try to edit in CS4, CS4 opens, but the image never appears. I've tried rebooting, but don't understand what preference files I'm supposed to delete. Any suggestions?

Lightroom uses the equivalent of ACR 6.5 for processing while PS CS4 can only use ACR version 5.x I believe you have the latest one. Therefore some of the adjustments you may have made in LR cannot be read by ACR 5.7. do not have PS CS 4 so I cannot check why it is not working when you select open anyway. Have you recently updated LR.

DNG Flat Field Plug-in usable with Bridge/ACR?

Can the DNG Flat Field plug-in be used at all with Adobe Bridge and ACR, or to apply a flat field must you import images into Lightroom and create DNG files using Lightroom?
Also - must you apply the flat field correction before you apply any other processing or development to the main image? i.e. I assume the main image and flat field calibration image must have identical processing steps applied to them and those should be default or minimal development.

Hi Alan,
No, the DNG Flat Field plug-in can only be used with Lightroom. It is specifically a plug-in for Lightroom.
The Develop adjustments do not affect the flat field correction. Internally, the plug-in will apply the calibration to the image data before any of the Develop adjustments come into play. (This is necessary because the flat field or shading correction needs to be applied very early in the image processing pipeline.) So, it does not matter what you have your Develop controls set to.
In terms of a practical workflow, it makes sense to apply your flat field correction before even going into Develop. This is because the result of a flat field correction will change the baseline or "starting point" for your image (e.g., it will change the color and/or tonal balance). So, it is better to find out what that corrected starting point is before you begin tuning color and tone in Develop.
Eric

FAQ: What cameras are supported in ACR 7.0 with Photoshop CS6?

See this link for full details on camera support in Camera Raw versions:
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2012/03/raw-support-in-lightroom-and-camera-raw.ht ml
Snip taken from link above:
You’ll also note that ACR7, available with Photoshop CS6 beta, is lagging the most in updated camera support. This is based on when we lock down or “bake” the code for each release. Even though ACR7 was only released last week it was “baked” before Lightroom 4.0 and Camera Raw 6.7. Similarly, Lightroom 4.0 was finalized before Camera Raw 6.7. We’ll get Lightroom and Camera Raw in sync soon but in the interim, here’s the latest incremental support list for each product, relative to Camera Raw 6.6 and Lightroom 3.6:
Photoshop CS6 beta with ACR7
Canon PowerShot S100V
Fuji FinePix X-S1
NOTE:
ACR7.1 will have the superset of all currently supported cameras in ACR6.7 and LR4.1 plus a few extras.

I was just curious and hunting around ACR 7.1 and Photoshop trying our the features. Also I have found that LR4 RC2 has follows ACR 7.1 as far as lens profiles go working with RAW images, so there is some consistency.
Wonder what the difference is between a RAW rendered image in ACR versus a Photoshop rendered image. Given, I could be wrong here, that Lens Correction is based on the optics of the lens, focal length, and the characteristics of the sensor, so would they not be the same in ACR and Photoshop?
I think I need to go check out a lens profiler
Cheers
Mike
There is one reason that I may go back into the Lens Correction Filter and that might be to fine tune some of the persective tools. With a large panorama much easier to see what needs to be done rather than view seperate images, and i have done that in the past. did not come to me until after I had hit the Send Button

ACR + Canon 5d2 with firmware upgrade?

Canon released a frimware upgrade for the 5D Mark II which claims to fix the "black dot" problem and a SRAW1 banding problem. Very little feedback has been reported by users, but some reports imply that the new firmware creats a new RAW file that can not be properly processed by current raw converters. Claims are that old converters will convert the new RAW files, but with some wierd color shifts.
That claim is fueled by Canon's own statement that you must get an updated version of their DPP program to properly process the new RAW and SRAW files. But what about Adobe Camera Raw? Can anyone confirm or deny that old/current versions of ACR will not properly process 5D Mark II raw files?
If true, is an update to ACR coming? More important, will Adobe be able to apply whatever correction is necessary within the DNG Converter? So those of us with CS3 who are stuck forever with ACR 4.5 can process firmware-updated 5d MarkII raw files correctly?
Not a critical problem, because you can apparently function quite well without the firmware upgrade. But the upgrade is a path of no return. Once upgraded, you can't go back to the original firmware version if problems with ACR exist.

Looks like they might have done pretty well with the dots (although this
is just one small example):
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1231455914.html
Firmware Version 1.0.7 is for EOS 5D Mark II cameras with firmware up to
version 1.0.6. If the camera's firmware is already version 1.0.7, it is not
necessary to update the firmware.
Greetings,
Debra from "Link removed"
Link removed by:
IanLyons
Forum Host

LR3 - Cannot edit in Photoshop CS4 ("Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments")

Having just purchased LR3, it seems that when I select "Edit a copy with Lightroom Adjustments", that the LR adjustments aren't being carried across into CS4. I am only given the original file in PS.
Is this a known bug?

So what do you think might be the problem, Dorin?
I don't know. I haven't seen a bug (assuming it is indeed a bug, and not an operator error) like this is mentioned here in the forums.
This issue is going to affect my business in a major way.
If this is so critical to your business, you can use a workaround meanwhile.
Use the regular export command with the following options:
File type: PSD/TIFF; other relevant filetype options.
Location: same as original photo.
Add to this catalog: checked. Stack with original: as needed.
Post-processing: open in Photoshop.
Save this as an Export presets and invoke it from the File->Export with Preset from the menu.
The end result is the same as Edit in Photoshop.

CS4 ACR 5.7 with LR3 ACR 6.1

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for