CS4 Black & White Adjustment - Missing Sliders ?

In CS3 the Black & White Adjustment Layer dialogue offered two sliders for adding a tint. These were Hue and Saturation, and were delightfully easy to use.
In CS4 the Black & White Adjustment Layer non-modal tab does not have these two sliders; instead you have to click on the square called tint which opens up the Select target color: dialogue. OK so hue has a slider, but adjusting the saturation requires entering a figure into a box (or all the arrow key stuff). Not anywhere near as convenient nor intuitive as sliders.
It is possible to regain this flexibility by directly converting the image to Black & White using the Black & White conversion dialogue available from the menu, but then this means that it has to be on a copy of the image and is, therefore, not re-adjustable later.
Is it possible to have the modal dialogues back for Adjustment Layers, along with all the adjustments previously available, or are CS4 users stuck with the Adjustments Panel - as is ?
Any other suggestions for getting these two useful slider back ?
(but why take them away in the first place ?)

We are at cross-purposes here:
Simon is talking about using a
Black and White Adjustment Layer.
It is in the palette for that kind of layer that you will see the Tint Box with the little colored square beside it.
If you check the Tint Box and then CLICK on the little colored square, you will open the regular Color Picker (as shown in # Eight).
At that time, Sliders are available for any selected channel, or choice of input, when you click its dedicated Radio Button.
Sliders for Colorizing can be reached from a Hue/Sat Adjustment Layer but that is a different scenario from the one which Simon was talking about.

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