CS4 Chapter Markers

How the (bleep) do you get the (bleep, bleep) Encore Chapters Markers set in Premiere to actually show up in Encore?! None of the standard methods are working.

The sure fire way is within Premiere, go to File>Adobe Dynamic Link>Send to Encore...
Unfortunately, you're only limited to one timeline per Encore project. Unless there's a workaround that i'm not familiar with.
If you're using Encore, and importing a PPro Sequence, you can join the rest of us in the "Army of the frustrated"...
Some fixes include creating chapter points by exclusively using the marker next to the "Snap" button on Premiere's timeline, and not right clicking "set encore chapter marker".
That would include double clicking the marker above the timeline, and giving it a name, and a comment for good measure..
You might also try keeping PPro active while importing a sequence into Encore.
Any updates in Premiere should, in theory, update in Encore..This would of course be followed by "revert to original" in the project window...
And in the world of candies, roses and Lynda tutorials, it all works..
But in my world, i've tried all i can...But to no avail.
If all fails..Jump out of your seat, run around three times, scream, make a cup of coffee..Come back, and start a new project from scratch...
Good luck..
Please let us know of any fixes you may encouter...

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Fix for erroneous chapter markers in Encore CS4

Thought I post my work for all to use. In the mean time, I also hope Adobe picks up this problem and posts a fix for it
If you use Encore chapter markers in Premiere, when you import the media in Encore, your chapter markers are nicely named "ThisIsAChapterMarkerFlag" (at least that is what happens with me and a few others: see other posts in this forum).
I was not so happy with the fix suggested in that post to manually correct the chapter markers in Encore, so I dug a little more.
I have tracked the error down to an error in the creation of the <media.m2v>.xmpses. After having verified that changing that file fixed the error, I decided to write a little program that does this for you, brushing up some very stale C knowledge and picking up a free Visual C++ environment from Microsoft.
Reason for automating is that every time you change the timeline in Premiere and re-export, you would have to do manual work in Encore again.
Well, a few days later, I did build the program and IT WORKS.
So this is how it works:
* Following the initial suggestion by bowden, when you create a chapter marker in Premiere, copy the name to the comment section of the chapter marker
* do your export in Premiere
* run the fix program in a dos prompt in the directory where the exports reside
* it will convert all the .xmpses files it finds there by copying the comment section to the name section
* import the media in Encore: voila, there are your chapter markers
If you want to pick up the program:
ftp://ftp.l3m.nu
user: Adobe
password: Xmpses
Oh and no comments please on the style of software writing, it has been more than 20 years since I wrote my last C program :-))
I think this also clearly shows this is a bug in CS4 Premiere (or the media exporter, eitherway). Adobe can you please look into this?
This will definitely work with the integrated work flows supported in CS4 i.e. clikcing on a timeline in Encore, bringing up the timeline for editing in Premiere. But that for know is only a small burden for me.
Hope this helps
Lucien

To All
Well I burnt some time for nothing: it appears that right when I was writing my fix program, Adobe released an update of the Media Encoder that has the problem fixed in the encoder.
So to all: forget my fix, make sure you update to the latest version of AME and you are fine
Lucien

CS4 exporting chapter markers to Encore?

In my older version of Premiere Pro, exporting an AVI file that contained chapter markers readable by Encore was pretty simple. There was a checkbox on the export parameters screen, and as long as you checked it, Encore would be able to pick up the chapter markers.
It seems that life is not so simple in CS4.
The export dialogue in CS4 does not seem to have a checkbox for indicating that I want the chapter markers included in the metadata of the AVI files.
I did find and check the box for each individual marker to indicate that I wanted it to be treated as an Encore marker. But when I export the sequence to an AVI file and then import that AVI file into Encore, there are no chapter markers.
I read the help message, which recommended File > Adobe Dynamic Link > Send to Encore, but when I tried that option I found it to be a real pain in the neck. It wanted to create a brand-new Encore project, and I couldn't find a way to tell ilt to use my existing Encore project. Also, I will want to use the same sequence in more than one Encore project, so I really don't want to tie it to an individual project - I want to just export it as an AVI that contains the metadata to be usable in a variety of Encore projects that I may want to use it in.
Is there a way to do what my older version of Premiere Pro allowed me to do - export an AVI file that contains the necessary chapter markers for Encore?

En chapter markers can only be exported from CS4 if:
You send the sequence to En via Dynamic Link. The markers don't have to have a name in this case.
You name the chapter markers and export from Pr as MPEG2 DVD. In this case the chapter markers have to have a name, and you have to check "Include Source XMP Metadata" in the flyout menu of the Export Settings dialog. (The chapter marker information is included in the sidecar XMP file)
Gone is the ability to export chapter markers with AVI files.
Although you can't specify what En project you want from Pr when sending a sequence to En via Dynamic Link, you can open any En project and import one or more Pr sequences via Encore's File | Adobe Dynamic Link command.
-Jeff

Premiere CS4 DVD Chapter Markers Not Exporting

The Encore chapter markers do not appear when I import the files into Encore. I am exporting with the "MPEG2-DVD" preset and importing into Encore. I tried Dynamic Link in both directions to/from Encore. btw, Dynamic Link "Send to Encore" creates a new Encore project. I want to add to an existing project.
I see no settings in the Media Encoder prefs or in the Main Concept "H.264" preset. This used to be automatic. What am I doing wrong?

Make sure you used Encore DVD Markers in your Pr sequence and not just ordinary sequence markers.
Make sure you named the markers and didn't leave the Name field blank.
Make sure you export XMP Metadata like so:
And to add more than one Pr sequence to En, or to add Pr sequences to an existing En project, you have to start from inside En. Open the En project and use the File | Adobe Dynamic Link command.
-Jeff

Put Chapter Markers in PP or Encore?-CS4

Hey Folks.
What's the latest on whether it's better to put chapter markers in PP vs. Encore. Seems Encore has a pretty good system for doing this on the tail end of a DVD production when creating the menu. Given the many problem posts on putting markers in PP, exporting with AME, then finishing up in Encore, do you think it best to do it in Encore?
Thanks, everyone (snakes and rabbits included).

I agree with Jim. If you place Markers in PrPro, just remember that it offers several types of Markers. Just make sure that you are using the proper ones, and that all criteria are met. At one time, one had to add something in the Name section of the Marker dialog. It could be just a single character, but something had to be added. Not sure it that need has been dropped in later versions?
Though I seldom use Chapter Markers, when I do, those are usually placed in Encore.
One additional consideration is the exact placement of Chapter Markers. If one has full I-frame material, then all Frames are fair game for the placement of a Chapter Marker.If one has Transcoded to a GOP structure, then they are limited in the placement to just on an I-frame. If you Transcode to MPEG-2, prior to Import into Encore, you might want to add the Encore Chapter Markers in PrPro.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS - Jeff tries to keep the bunnies and snakes out of the main forums, though a few have been known to sneak in. Often, it will depend on whether Beer-Thirty, or Wine-Thirty has been declared...

Encore chapter markers which move with clip

Problem: Encore chapter markers which move with clip
CS4 Production Suite
XP Pro SP3
I have 9 sequences with each containing 4 Encore chapter markers. As expected in the real world, the end users continually want edits to the sequences. If I razor out a piece of a clip in the sequence, the Encore chapter markers stay fixed to the time ruler and do not move with the clip. As a result, one has to manually move each Encore chapter marker to re-align with the proper location on a clip. This is time consuming and makes no sense. Is there anyway for the Encore chapter markers to act like clip markers so they move with edits?
If not, does someone have a plugin which would look at the Encore chapter markers in a sequence and place corresponding clip markers on Video 1. After editing, the plugin could re-align the Encore chapter markers with their respective clip markers.

What is needed are Encore Chapter Clip Markers so Encore markers follow the clip. Just as you would move the current-time indicator to the frame where you want an Encore chapter point and then right click (Windows) in the time ruler and choose the type of marker, a new context menu item "Encore Chapter Clip Marker" would be available which would place an Encore chapter marker on the clip in the currently selected video track. With this, one could edit the sequence and know the Encore chapter point is still at the same frame of the clip.
I encourage others to either copy this feature description or their own version and submit it to the Feature Request Page for Premiere.
Feature Request Page
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
One should submit this Feature to both Premiere and Encore since both are effected. By the way, Encore has a Feature Request user form you may also want to submit this to. Premiere does not appear to have a Feature Request user form so I used the Feature Request Page mentioned above.

Encore Chapter Markers

This is the first time I've tried to use chapter markers when burning HD movies to BR disc. I want two movies on one disc, with a menu at the start of the disc. I followed the manual, and in the Pro timeline put a chapter marker at the start of each movie, double clicked each marker and typed in the name for that marker, but when it is played, though I can move from one marker to the other by pressing the skip buttons on the remote, the marker names are not displayed either at the start of each movie, or in a menu at the start of the disc. What am I overlooking?

No, maybe I'm stupid... Ha, ha!
Add a menu to your project. Find the library panel, and add a menu appropriate for your video. I think you are looking for bluray, so any menu with a name that ends "Menu HD." Then all will make sense.
When you said something about "menu" in your first post, I just assumed you had added one. Now I think not.
You might watch this tutorial:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-encore-cs4/getting-started-03-making-menus/
It is one from this list:
http://tv.adobe.com/show/learn-encore-cs4

Chapter Markers with Media Encoder.

Is it possible to export media with the media encoder and include chapter markers that will be picked up by encore? In the past few PP versions I have been using export movie and it imported into Encore with all chapter markers named as I named them in premiere. Now when I export a video and import it into Encore it doesnt recognize the markers. Maybe I need to add more info, I'm attempting that now. I know if I export directly to Encore it does, but I like saving my final projects as stand alone avi's for future use and it would be nice if I could save those markers along with it. I guess that brings up another question, if they don't show up in Encore, do they show up in premiere? If so then I guess its not a big loss.
Thanks Again!

You need to use DVD Markers in CS4 for Encore to recognise them.
See: FAQ:How do I export chapter markers for use in Encore?
Cheers
Eddie
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The difference between chapter markers and dvd studio pro markers

Does anyone know what is the difference between chapter markers and dvd studio pro markers? I can not find anywhere on Google. Also in the tutorials I have seen, suggesting DVD Studio Pro markers, but it did not mention the chapter markers.
Thanks,

"Adding Chapter and Compression Markers to Your Sequence
Once you have your edited sequence or program finished, you can add markers to the sequence for use on DVD. Markers are reference points you can place within clips or sequences that identify specific frames. There are two kinds of markers you can add that directly relate to authoring a DVD—chapter markers and compression markers.
• Chapter markers allow DVD authoring applications to create a navigable chapter list for your exported QuickTime movie. Chapter markers force MPEG keyframes (known as I-frames) at their location, since the DVD specification requires an I-frame at each chapter point.
• Compression markers identify areas of abrupt change and include two types: those that are automatically inserted by Final Cut Pro at all edit points, and those you manually place in the clip or sequence. Like chapter markers, compression markers force I-frames at their location, although in this case it is for better quality encoding, and they are not used to create a chapter list.
Note: When you export a QuickTime movie, you have an option to export various kinds of markers, including compression, chapter, or DVD Studio Pro markers. *When you choose to export DVD Studio Pro markers, Final Cut Pro actually exports chapter markers and all compression markers.* This includes compression markers you set manually, as well as ones created automatically by Final Cut Pro at edit and transition points."
From the Final Cut Pro User Manual.
So, JS was right the first time

I am trying to enter a split point for a file going on a dual layer disc. There are chapter markers in the file but the automtic function doesn't see them. Can I insert a point for the layer split in DVD Studio Pro 3 or 4? It doesn't appear that the autom

I am trying to enter a split point for a file going on a dual layer disc. There are chapter markers in the file but auto function does not see them. Went back and put a small split in the timeline in fcp and exported to mpeg 2 again and auto function does not see that either? Manual msays to manualy enter split poind in DVDSP but can't find any way to enter that split point in DVDSP? How can I manualy enter a split point in DVDSP 3 or 4?
Elizabeth/Roger Cook Films

This is definitely not the behavior I see. When I left click it adds a marker,
When I right click, I see the following
Do you have any OS hacks installed on your computer or have you changed the mouse behavior in system preferences: mouse? If not, I'd suggest you run digital rebellions preference manager and reset your dvdsp preferences.
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2491

How do I export from Compressor 4 to iDVD with chapter markers?

I get that Final Cut Pro X does not create chapter markers.
I send it to Compressor 4 to do this.
Ok, so far, so good.
How do I export this so that I can then author the DVD to include a menu page, etc?
Do I do this in iDVD? If so, what format, as I see that iDVD does not import MPEG-2.

Don't use the DVD preset in Compressor. Use an MPEG4 format or maybe even AppleTV preset.
This Apple Support Article might help a little.

Chapter Markers won't show up on Chapter Menu when trying to burn a DVD.

Help,
Trying to burn an SD DVD disc in FCP X from the Share menu. I've set Orange Chapter Markers with Titles in my project from the timeline and these don't appear when I check the box to use chapter markers for Subtitles in the Destinations box to burn a DVD. I've set a photo in the main menu and it appears with the Title of my Project, but in the Chapter Menu it only shows the default list of Chapter 1, Chapter 2, etc. Shouldn't my Chapters show up on the list after they've been set up on my timeline in the project? Also, I tried burning a disc with my Chapters not showing up on the chapter list and my disc only plays from the Main menu where the picture is inserted. There's a slash line in the Chapter list button stating I can't use that option and I can't play chapters. Trying to get this project out the door before January 20, 2013. Can someone please help?
Thanks,
Dave

Can you post some screen shots? The chapter marker dialog box in the timeline. The DVD menu.
What's playing back the DVD?
Have you tried it without the background image? Build a disk image rather than burn a disc.

How to add chapter markers for each file in a folder?

Hello,
I have several image folders with up to 700 images per. I would like to drag & drop them into the timeline but I want to be able to use the chapter/arrow button on the DVD player remote to scroll through them.....like a videoscrapbook, per se.
Is there a setting that will allow me to drop them into the time line and automatically generate a chapter marker for each image, that will be read on export to DVDSP? Surely, there is something like this built in that I just have not yet found; I cannot believe the only alternative is to manually add 700 chapter markers per folder. And do they always go into the timeline in alphabetical order? Can that be prevented or altered?
Also, doesn't it seem strange there is no single-button option (I'm presuming here, since I have not found one) for adding a chapter marker; the '~' button adds a generic marker but you must 'edit' it and click 'chapter marker' - very time-consuming --- or am I missing something here, too? If so please enlighten me! I've experimented a lot but no luck.
Many thanks!
jf

I thought there was a folder size limitation on DVDSP - these folders have digital family photos on them and they are jam-packed; 600, 700, whatever. And there are several of them. I guess I thought putting them in FCP was the only way to avoid the limitation - if there is one.
I'll try putting them straight into DVDSP and see what happens. Thanks!
jf

How do I get chapter markers defined in a compound clip to show up in the DVD menu?

I have created a timeline to burn a DVD/Blu-Ray. The timeline contains 3 compound clips. Each compound clip contains roughly 25 chapter markers.
When I open the Share > DVD dialog, it shows the Chapter button in the preview, but the DVD itself doesn't have the chapter markers.
Expected Result: When I define Chapter markers in a compound clip, they should show up on a DVD burned from a timeline that used the compound clip.
Actual Result: The DVD does not contain the chapters button, nor do the chapter skip buttons do anything. It's as if the chapters were never defined.
Workaround: Redefine all the chapter markers in the new timeline over the compound clips - Annoying!
Is there a simple way to get FCPX to recognize the chapter markers defined in the compound clip when I burn the project? It would save me quite a bit of time!!
Thanks, all, for your help!

Thanks for the tip. I was looking for this feature, but it was not included in the context menu. It can be found in the "Clip" menu.
I think the best workflow for me would be this:
Edit in a master timeline
Select the entire master time line, send to compound clip.
Create a new project, add the compount clip
Add the chapter markers to the new project
Select everything in the new project, create a second compound clip.This makes the chapter markers portable.
Open up the "burn" project, insert the second compount clip.
Select the newly inserted compound clip, and select "Break Apart Clip" from the "Clip" menuThe result is a managable compound clip with chapter markers.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question!
db

How can I create chapter markers that iTunes will recognize?

I recently purchased several audiobooks from Barnes and Noble which are encoded as MP3s with chapter markers inserted into the metadata in a proprietary format. I am trying to convert them to appear properly in iTunes.
It appears that I could import them into a GarageBand podcast project, and create markers by hand there, but that is very slow and impractical for dozens of hours of audiobooks.
I would like to simply edit the metadata associated with the file so that iTunes will recognize them.
Here is an example MP3 audiobook file with proprietary chapter metadata:
=============================================================
Input #0, mp3, from 'A Game of Thrones-Part01.mp3':
Metadata:
title : A Game of Thrones - Part 01
copyright : Books on Tape
album : A Game of Thrones
genre : Science Fiction & Fantasy
publisher : Books On Tape
TIT3 : null
track : 1
encoded_by : OverDrive, Inc.
OverDrive MediaMarkers: <Markers><Marker><Name>Prologue</Name><Time>00:00.000</Time></Marker><Marker><N ame> Prologue (03:18)</Name><Time>03:18.893</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (08:09)</Name><Time>08:09.467</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (13:41)</Name><Time>13:41.200</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (18:11)</Name><Time>18:11.133</Time></Marker><Marker><Name> Prologue (22:41)</Name><Time>22:41.440</Time></Marker><Marker><Nam
artist : George R.R. Martin/Roy Dotrice
Duration: 01:13:03.89, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 64 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Audio: mp3, 22050 Hz, stereo, s16, 64 kb/s
=============================================================
Obviously iTunes won't recognize this format. For comparison, here is an audiobook purchased from iTunes:
=============================================================
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '01 Water for Elephants (Unabridged), Part 1.m4b':
Metadata:
major_brand : M4B
minor_version : 0
compatible_brands: M4B mp42isom
creation_time : 2009-05-09 12:36:04
title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged), Part 1
artist : Sara Gruen
album : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)
genre : Fiction
track : 1
copyright : ℗ 2006 HighBridge Audio
Duration: 05:38:07.04, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 64 kb/s
Chapter #0.0: start 0.000000, end 655.000000
Metadata:
title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 1
Chapter #0.1: start 655.000000, end 2056.000000
Metadata:
title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 2
Chapter #0.2: start 2056.000000, end 4038.000000
Metadata:
title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 3
Chapter #0.12: start 18249.000000, end 20287.041995
Metadata:
title : Water for Elephants (Unabridged)- Track 13
Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: aac, 22050 Hz, stereo, s16, 62 kb/s
Metadata:
creation_time : 2009-05-09 12:36:04
Stream #0.1(eng): Subtitle: text / 0x74786574
Metadata:
creation_time : 2009-05-09 12:36:04
=============================================================
When I transcode my mp3 audiobook, manually changing the metadata, I end up with this:
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Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'A Game of Thrones-Part01.m4b':
Metadata:
major_brand : M4A
minor_version : 512
compatible_brands: isomiso2
creation_time : 1970-01-01 00:00:00
title : A Game of Thrones - Part 01
artist : George R.R. Martin/Roy Dotrice
album : A Game of Thrones
encoder : Lavf52.107.0
genre : Science Fiction & Fantasy
copyright : Books on Tape
track : 1
Duration: 01:12:55.94, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 64 kb/s
Chapter #0.0: start 0.000000, end 198.893000
Metadata:
title : Prologue 1
Chapter #0.1: start 198.893000, end 489.467000
Metadata:
title : Prologue 2
Chapter #0.2: start 489.467000, end 821.200000
Metadata:
title : Prologue 3
Chapter #0.3: start 821.200000, end 1091.133000
Metadata:
title : Prologue 4
Chapter #0.4: start 1091.133000, end 1361.440000
Metadata:
title : Prologue 5
Stream #0.0(und): Audio: aac, 22050 Hz, stereo, s16, 63 kb/s
Metadata:
creation_time : 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Stream #0.1(eng): Subtitle: text / 0x74786574
Metadata:
creation_time : 1970-01-01 00:00:00
=============================================================
The resulting file appears to have chapter markers in the same format as the iTunes audiobook format, however the chapter markers don't show up in iTunes, QuickTime Player or on my iPhone. VLC however does recognize the chapter markers.
Can anybody point me in the right direction? I seem to be at a bit of an impasse here.
Edit: I am using iTunes 10.1.2 if that makes any difference.
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