CS4 Color Management Settings - Confusing for Brother Laser Colour Printer

I am new to Brother's Color Laser Printer and setting up the Color Management with CS4 for a document. Contacted Brother and they do not have informaton for Adobe Products. Here's what occurs when on the Print Screen:
Under 'Options' — CS4 has instated 'Let InDesign determine Color Management'.
Under Printer Profile: 'RGB-SRGB 1EC6' is indicated. I can pull down the menu for other choices. Brother Printers are indicated but I have no idea which one to choose. What is difficult to ascertain is that in one project, I am using card stock. There is no choice available for other weights of paper as there is in MSW.
Inexperience prevails with using a color laser printer with CS4's settings. In other words, should I leave the choices provided by CS4 rather than choose the Brother Printer settings that cannot be explained by Brother?
HELP!

What is difficult to ascertain is that in one project, I am using card
stock. There is no choice available for other weights of paper as there
is in MSW.
With an RGB (no postscript) driver you would access paper and resolution profiles from the Printer... button of the Print dialog. So typically output color would be Composite RGB, Let InDesign Determine Color would be your only Color Handling choice, and you would leave the Printer Profile as Document RGB. Then you would click Print... and you would find paper and resolution settings under the Print Settings pop-up.

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