CS4 Crashing Problems - Questions

Just curious in regards to all of these "CS4 Crashing" problems.
1) Before updating to Snow leopard, did you people do due diligence by at the very least checking the S.M.A.R.T. status of your drives and do a Permission Repair first BEFORE updating?
2) Did you make a clone of your working perfectly Leopard disk, or at least do a current (minutes before) Time machine backup?
3) Did you check first which 3rd party extensions such as those by Unsanity (FontCard), YouControl(Font), Growl, etc. that will NOT play nice with Snow Leopard yet until they are updated (if ever?)... and pre-update delete them?
4) Did you check to make sure that all of your fonts have been disabled and those that are NOT specifically from Apple, are removed from the User Font folders... and NOT set to load at startup?
Now after all of that... did ya still "freely" and without a gun to your head, update to Snow Leopard... a brand spankin' new (dot.zero) OS release and expect absolutely NO bugs: small, large or just inconvenient for the time being?
And now your whining here?... and complaining to Apple?
Have any of you considered reverting to your clone of Leo 10.5.8 until certain issues (yours) have been fail-safely fixed?
For the record, I did a straight-up SL update on a 2.16 CoreDuo MBP, and a 2008 8-core MacPro with NO problems! Everything working fine in 32-bit and 64-bit (MacPro), including even FreeHand under Rosetta.
NOTE: check your fonts!!! Whenever something crashes here or at any of my clients unexpectedly, font and/or font cache corruption has been the main culprit, now for over 20 years(!)

DocPixel-BMW wrote:
Well on one hand, I was guilty of letting out a rant against all of the whiners... on the other I was trying to be a bit helpful.
Maybe it will cause someone to think before starting another "Adobe or Apple must die or fix this" thread. It grates on the nerves... considering most should "fix" their expectations, upgrade habits, and most of all, the area between their ears first... BEFORE posting.
Welcome to the common sense club. A club with very few members.

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