CS4 HDV capture problem

hi all,
just installed premiere cs4 with the 4.01 update. trying to capture hdv footage. capture can see my sony hvr-a1 camera as online, and i can control the device from the software but i get no video and no audio - just timecode running. if i look on the lcd screen on the camera it's playing back fine. checked and re-checked through all settings on camera - no problems. rebooted computer and camera no change. i have tried this both with a project imported from cs3 and with a new blank project with the same results. i can capture sd footage no problem. any ideas?
thanks.

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CS4 HDV Capture and playback issues

Hey,
I am having trouble with HDV capture and playback on Prem Pro CS4. I tried all the steps mentioned on the article posted by Adobe, http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405478.html
None of these steps have helped anything. I used the cleanup utility, re-installed everything and started from fresh and nothing happens. Capture is always out of sync, it ignores in and out points when batch capturing and playback is all jerky regardless of quality settings. The weird thing is, this only started happening out of the blue. I was using it on a project and it was fine. I hadn't used Prem Pro in a little while and then all these problems began. No change in hardware.
I am using Premiere Pro CS4 on Windows 7 and capturing HDV footage via firewire on a Sony Z7.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

With Win7, if you have not already done so...
Legacy Driver and Capture http://forums.adobe.com/thread/694890?tstart=0
- And a Picture http://forums.adobe.com/thread/727755?tstart=0

HDV Capturing Problem.

Hey,
I'll start real quick by getting to the point and stateing my problem.
When captureing HDV 1080i tape footage, it just stops randomly
after about 4-8 clips. Different each time. Heh.
Now I'll give you some information on my equipment, ect...
Computer
Windows 7
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00HGz (2CPUs), ~2.0GHz
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Software
Adobe Premeire Pro CS5
Hardware
Sony GV-HD700 Digital HD Videocassette Recorder
Boss usually gives me just regular DV footage to work with.
This time he's given me an HDV 1080i wedding.
1. I set up my project...
2. Set Capture Footage to HDV.
3. Set my Scratch Disk.
4. Set Sequence Presets to HDV 1080i30 (60i)
5. Set my Tape Recorder to HDV (instead of DV that I usually work in.)
6. Here's a picture of my capture screen letting me control it,
    but not letting me Record.
7. Click Settings and switch over the DV and capture it, just to see if it works. It
    does but its only in 720. So basiclly didnt work. Derp.
8. Look around some more and find somone saying to go to the Tape Recorder,
    and change the i.LNK CONV to OFF. I do that. Also set my capture device
    to Sony, Standard, because a guy said it worked for him with the same Tape
    Recorder I have. Also because GV-HD700 isn't even available.
9. Open Capture again and Record button shows up. Yay right? No. I hit record
    and it dosent really capture anything... Dunno why. It plays the tape on the
    recorder but dosen't capture. Here's a picture...
10. So then I I'm like, what does this Tape Button do?
11. Make sure I have Scene Detect ON. Then I click TAPE.
12. Then it starts captureing footage! Yay right? Heres a picture..
13. Everythings going great. I can't see the footage on my screen, but that doesn't
     seem to be a big deal. The footage is playing and I can see clips captureing.
Then it just Stops. Just Stops captureing. The tape keeps playing. But no more
captureing. What is the problem here? I'm out of ideas and I don't know what to
do anymore.
Hope someone can help me out.

Try this for HDV capture http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm
Do you have at least two hard drives?
My 3 hard drives are configured as... (WD = Western Digital)
1 - 320G WD Win7 64bit Pro and all program installs
2 - 320G WD Win7 swap file and video project files
3 - 1T WD all video files... input & output files
Search Microsoft to find out how to redirect your Windows swap file
http://search.microsoft.com/search.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US
Trying to use only ONE Hard Drive for Video Editing
You are a music conductor, with a baton that you use to point to various parts of the orchestra... this is like Windows pointing to various parts of the hard drive to do Windows housekeeping or to load program segments for various functions
Now, at the same time and with the same hand... while still using the baton to conduct the orchestra... pick up a bow and play a fiddle... this would be doing something with your video file at the same time as all the other work
You as a person cannot do both at the same time with the same hand
A computer is a LITTLE better, in that it can switch from one kind of task to another very quickly... but not quickly enough for EASY video editing
You need AT LEAST two hard drives (separate drives, never a partition http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708?tstart=0 for more) with Windows (or Mac OS) and software on your boot drive, and video files on a 2nd drive so the boot drive is not slowed down by trying to do everything
I find that the three drives I use work very well for me, for editing AVCHD video... some people use a 4th drive, so video INPUT files are on drive three and all OUTPUT files are on drive four... I only bought a mid-tower case instead of a full tower case (my bad... but had to fit in the space available on my office desk!) so I use the three drives that will fit
Depending on your exact hardware (motherboard brand & model AND USB2 enclosure brand & model AND external hard drive brand & model) AND the type of video file, you may... or may NOT... be able to use an external USB2 hard drive for SD (Standard Definition) video editing
Steve Grisetti in the Premiere Elements forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856208?tstart=0 and Jim Simon in the Premiere Pro forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856433?tstart=0 use USB externals for editing
A USB3 hard drive connected to a motherboard with USB3 is supposed to be fast enough for video editing (I don't have such, so don't know) but eSata DOES have a fast enough data transfer for video editing... I have not used this eSata Dock... for reference only, YMMV and all the usual disclaimers
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-BlacX-eSATA-Docking-Station/dp/B001A4HAFS/ref=cm_cmu_pg_ t

HDV Capture Problems in FCP 5.1.1

We are using a Sony M10U HDV deck to capture footage in Final Cut Pro. Recently, on all 3 of our systems, the tapes seem to be coming in with a TON of time code breaks - and at each FCP creates a new clip. In a single 60-minute tape I will end up with 40+ clips. Not very convenient for multi-cam editing. We've been using the deck since FCP 5.0 came out over a year ago and have not had this issue in the past.
I can't seem to recall any particular software update that we might have done on the Powermacs at the same time that could have caused this. (For awhile, two systems were on 5.1 while the other was still on 5.04 and all had the same issue). I've tried skipping the Sony deck and digitizing straight from a camera with the same problems. I've tried different firewire cables too.
Also, if I play the tape straight to an HD monitor from the deck or a camera there doesn't appear to be any time code breaks or drop-outs. If I downconvert and capture as DV, everything captures fine with no timecode breaks reported. It only seems to be HDV related.
Short of clearing off and re-formatting my hard drives, (I currently have 4Tb of data and I'm not sure where to go with it all) I'm running out of ideas on what else to try.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
I'm running:
FCP 5.1.1
Mac OS 10.4.6
Quicktime 7.1.1
Dual 2.7Ghz G5
8Gb RAM
GeForce 6800 GT
Xserve RAID 5.6Tb
Thank you.

Perhaps you have updated Quicktime recently?
If so, try a full quicktime reinstall.
Go to /library/receipts and delete any files that say Quicktime followed by a number e.g. Quicktime703.pkg
Go to the Apple quicktime site and download the appropriate version of Quicktime to your hard drive.
Run the Quicktime installer.
Repair Disk Permissions for your System Disk (Disk Utility > Select the system disk > Repair Disk Permissions)
Reboot
Good luck.
x

HDV Capture Problems

Hi everybody,
Im having a problem similar to this one here for FCP, http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1955982&start=0&tstart=0 Basically when I import my HD footage from my Cannon HV30 to my scratch disk (Lacie 1TB Connected Via FireWire 400) I ended up getting 31 individual clips from one tape and i was wondering what I was doing wrong. I read the thread that I mentioned above but some of the options they changed only seem to appear in FCP.
Thanks,
Alex

Thanks to everybody thats made a suggestion,
I tried all of them but in the end the problem seemed to be related to the CPU usage out of curiosity while I was capturing i opened up Activity Monitor and saw that the CPU usage was at 100% the whole time and the memory was pretty high too so I started to quit plugins close dock to gain processing power and memory back from dashboard along with turning of airport amongst other things and what do you know it worked! Just a stupid HDV beginner mistake i guess.
Thanks for all of your time and suggestions,
-Alex

JVC HDV capture problems

I'm having major problems capturing from JVC GYHD101 camera.
My MacBook Pro can control the camera just fine and all my settings seem to be right, the computer will capture, but it will not capture constantly. The capture window will stay open and not report any problems, but what it will do is capture, then stop capturing, create a file (while the tape is still playing) and then continue capturing, even though the tape has moved on.
If anyone could help figure this out I would be massively greatful!

No, hense me posting in the FCP forum.
I discovered why it was doing it, FCP splits the clips where the camera has been started and stopped. And even though there's a box in the settings to untick to stop this, it doesn't actually stop it.
So when capturing from JVC HDV, I've found it is impossible to leave the tape running and capture the whole thing.

HDV capturing problem PE7

Hi, Im trying to capture HDV in PE7......think I have all the settings right in Preferences......
But keep getting.......not a supported format or a codec is missing.............
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I assume you are trying to capture in HD. Download the freeware HDVSplit and see if it can capture. If neither can capture it might point to a hardware or driver issue:
http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

JVC HDV Capture Problem

FCP=6.01; Camcorder=GY-HD200U; Deck=BRHD50U. The firmware on the deck and camera are the latest (0102 for the camera and 0108 for the deck) and I'm still getting a continuously recorded clip broken into several clips on log & capture. I'd rather not use the "uncontrollable" setting for capture if possible. Does any one know of a patch either in FCP or by JVC to solve this issue?
Thanks,

This issue probably has to do with your video format - let us know:
Format shot (HDV 720p30 by chance?)
Capture settings
Connection type (firewire?)
This will help us narrow down the issue.
If you are sure the connection and settings are ok, try power-cycling everything, which helps to reset the deck's connection, make sure you are capturing to a properly formatted drive other than you system drive, etc.
Was this tape previously recorded on by any chance? I've seen that generate TC breaks during capture in the past.
Hope this helps -
Max Average

Quicktime 7.4 solved my HDV 720p24 capture problem

Ok so I know there are problems with quicktime 7.4 and after effects in leopard, but since I'm not using any after effects or leopard on my project I took the plunge. A little back info: finished movie in FCP 6.0.2 dual 2.0 G5 5gb ram Decklink HD 3Tb x-raid os 10.4.11 ,print to tape HDV 720p24 recording onto a JVC BR HD50 deck, attempted recapture immediately after print to tape was done and would get time-code break on recapture.( Pulled out lots of hair, read lots of similar threads of others also going suddenly bald) I read post after post about this but no answers on 7.4 so here is mine. After updating to quicktime 7.4 print to tape and recapture worked perfect for my 89 min movie. _*If you don't use after effects*_ it seems to be safe to upgrade to 7.4 to solve some HDV capture issues with the JVC HDV deck.
Message was edited by: Robert Simoneaux

Then, the Debreaker that comes with the latest iSquint will definitely fix your problem. iSquint and several other applications were creating invalid .mp4 files when specifically converting from .flv's. The author has discovered this and released the latest version that patches his app so that it now creates standard .mp4's AND has released the Debreaker app that will fix the files created by HIS app, and by other apps suffering from the same problem.
(The reason why they work in older QuickTime is because that version wasn't properly checking for valid file information. The latest version does)
Message was edited by: Kyn Drake

No preview for hdv capture window

When I try to capture hdv I am not getting a preview of the footage in the capture window while browsing the footage. I realize that I will not get a preview while capturing but I should get the preview while just browsing through the footage yet all I get is a black screen. I do have full control of the camera via premiere and the captures do actualy work. This used to work fine with cs3 but stopped working with cs4. The regular DV capture works fine with the preview. Its a sony fx1 hdv camera. Also when I click on capture setting nothing happens but if set to dv capture the capture settings give me options including preview settings.
Thanks in advance.

Well, it's actually a sad shortcoming of Premiere CS4.
I'm new to PPro, and CS4 is my first, in fact I'm new to video. What little I know, I've been doing with Final Cut.
So the answer to your question is actually "it's by design", hence my commentary.
Ref: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremierePro/4.0/WS00B136B2-33DB-49a0-B247-6521242FDBDAa.html
On the Mac, it's actually worse - HDV capture preview is totally non-existent.
http://www.macworld.com/article/136525/2008/11/pprocs4.html
It's a minor annoyance for me, and it could still "grow" on me - since video isn't being transferred to PC while previewing, there is no perceived delay, and the keyboard shortcuts, I and O, are the same (with FCP).
Landed on this post after searching for what I thought was a capture setting problem, and also found the above links that answered it for me. Hope this helps.

No HDV capture option

I downloaded the trial about a month ago (and was disappointed there was no HDV capture option, only DV). So I purchased the Production Premium Suite (cs5 of course) but after installing (twice) I still do not have the option of HDV in the "capture format" dropdown. I only get DV.
It is the student version, but I have used the student version of cs4 with no problems.
An ideas?

Here are some screen captures.
Click the settings dialog next to the RED X to get the Capture Settings to come up below.
Can you get these settings ?
GLenn

5.1.4 update breaks HDV capture? Unable to Initialize Capture Device

Problem:
Final Cut Pro cannot capture standard 1080i60 HDV footage from Sony FX1 camcorder. FCP reports "Unable to Initialize Capture Device" when the log and capture window is opened. However, the footage CAN be captured in iMovie (which is interesting, and unacceptable). When HDV>DV downconvert option on camcorder is activated, footage CAN be captured as anamorphic SD, so the camcorder and FW do work.
The problem is occuring on a rock-solid FCP system that I use on a regular basis (mainly for SD editing). It has been approx 2 weeks since I last attempted a HDV capture, the system has been working great with SD footage (still does).
Factors that have changed to my knowledge since HDV capture was last functioning properly:
*Added a new external FW drive into regular usage (a different brand than normally used, no issues with it so far).
*Updated FCP to 5.1.3, and then 5.1.4 when that fix came out. All SD captures and work have been fine so far.
Here's what's interesting...I had a copy of the FCP v5.0.4 .app that I had saved an archive of prior to the crossgrade update. Guess what? I can load it up, and it captures HDV without any problems! With that in mind, this looks like an FCP 5.1.4 issue. But I am at a loss on how to proceed further in troubleshooting. Many thanks in advance for any assistance.
Matt Jeppsen
FresHDV.com
---NOTES---
What I have tried:
*Attempted capture with a different Sony FX1 camcorder.
*Swapped firewire cables and system firewire ports.
*Attempted capture with camera FW chained to an external HDD.
*Unplugged all other external firewire devices from the system.
*Trashed FCP prefs using FCP Rescue 5, created new project using Easy Setup (for HDV).
*Tried different variations of FCP A/V settings, tried all the HDV FW device control presets and the HDV AIC capture preset.
*Per instructions at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301852 I removed the numbered Quicktime pckg Receipts and re-installed the latest version (7.13). Post-install/reboot, I repaired Disk Prefs and Verified the disk using Disk Util.
*Have also attempted installing QT 7.13 2 and 3 times in a row, also trying disk prefs repair BEFORE the post-install reboot.
Final Cut Pro Audio/Video Settings:
Sequence Preset: HDV-1080i60
Capture Preset: HDV
Device Control Preset: Sony HDV Firewire
Sony HDR-FX1 IN/OUT REC settings:
*VCR HDV/DV: HDV
*COMPONENT: 1080i/480i
*i.LINK CONV: OFF
*TV TYPE: 16:9
*A/V->DV OUT: OFF
System/Software Facts:
*Final Cut Pro 5.1.4
*Quicktime 7.13
*PPC Mac G5 2.7 Dual (2.5GB RAM)
*35GB free on System, 45GB free on internal FCP Scratch disk
Final Cut Pro 5.1.4, G5 DP 2.7 (PPC) Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I think I figured out this vexing problem. I too was having the same issue. Check to see that your Quicktime is newer than 7.1.2. If it isn't you'll have to upgrade it. I only upgraded to 7.1.6 here because I was afraid of going to a really new version. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime716formac.html. After I upgraded my quicktime, I ran software update and the Final Cut Pro 5.1.4 update appeared. I hoipe this helps.

Unable to initialize hdv deck problem

Hi all,
I'm having the 'unable to initialize hdv deck' problem. I am trying to capture HD footage from a Sony HVR-A1E camera. iLink and down conversion are off (like they should be) and I have just captured a HD tape before the problem started.
I don't understand how I could capture HD footage just fine and then without touching any settings (just trying to start capture again) I suddenly get the error message, "Unable to initialize HDV deck. Please make sure a deck is connected and try again."
Any ideas?

Definitely. Shot on HDV, definite difference between the clips I've captured so far (HD capture that worked fine before this is high quality sharp image, where as when capturing in SD, image quality is poor and smaller).
Everything has been filmed on the same camera with no setting changes between shots. Like I said before, I have already been able to capture today in HD just fine, but for some unknown reason (which I don't think is the prefs.) capture will not work. I can 'trick' FCE into HD capture but it gets stuck on cueing tape (even though video is playing fine on camera).

Are there benefits to the Blackmagic Intensity Pro for HDV capture ?

Are there benefits to the Blackmagic Intensity Pro for HDV capture ?
I have a Sony HDR-FX1 that records in HDV 1440 x 1080
I have already captured the footage to miniDV tape.
Can the intensity card get the full 1920 x 1080 video ?
I now use Premiere to capture my video and my HDV is in mpeg2 and my SD is in DV type 2 AVI
What format does the intensity card capture at ?
Are there other ways to capture that would make the footage better.
From what I have read allot of people have had problems with these cards.
Im just looking for the best way to get the footage off my camera with the best resolution.
Thanks: Glenn

Glenn,
I have posted this before in the PC Buying Guide (post #23 and later), but have a look at this diagram:
The problem is that once recorded to tape, the material is compressed to MPEG and there is no way to get the data back, that were lost during compression. The only thing you achieve is that you lose device control, lose all timecode information, lose all metadata like date and timestamp and exposure data and lose the capability of scene detection. There are no gains to compensate the losses.
Compare it to a glass of orange juice, that was made by heavily compressing oranges. How do you think you can reconstruct the original oranges that the juice came from? Were there 4 large oranges or 6 small ones or a mixture? Were they light colored or were they dark or a mixture of light and dark?
BlackMagic in their marketing may lead you to believe otherwise, but the truth is they can only guess at how many oranges were used, their size and color. It is nothing more than a guess.

HDV capture card

I'm looking for a capture card that support HDV camcorders, for G5.
But it seems that doesn't exist any card: I found only HD or SD capture cards.
The only HDV capture card that is able to native editing hdv video in realtime from hdv camcorders is the canopus EDIUS NX (and canopus velxus 300 in Japan); but the problem is that canopus hdv card is only for PC.
I called canopus and they said me that these cards will be for MAC when Apple will release the new powermac intel-based.
So I read in the apple FCP 5 HD page this:
"Native HDV Support
Final Cut Pro 5 supports native long-GOP MPEG-2 editing for working with camera-original HDV video. Unlike other solutions, Final Cut Pro 5 acquires HDV media via FireWire and keeps it in the original format, transferring it into the system without any generation loss. Output via FireWire back to an HDV camera or deck, or transfer your native HDV to DVD Studio Pro 4 for an end-to-end native HDV workflow."
I know that it is not possible capture a video by firewire from a camcorder without further compressing it. I know that it is for this reason that pro use capture cards (that have dedicated processors for this).
So I think that there aren't HDV capture cards for mac because the hardware companies don't make new cards for only few months, so they're waiting the new intel-based macs. If so, this firewire technology of final cut pro 5 is a compromise for these last times, or is it really like the capture-card processing? and if so, how is it possible capturing a hdv video by firewire without further compressing it?
Do you know about a HDV card for MAC or is it really good using Final Cut Pro HD 5 with firewire ?
Thank you.

It all depends on what type of work you are doing...
Capture Cards are for use with other formats that cannot be captured via firewire: BetaSP, Digibeta, HDCAM, D5. They are also require for outputting to these formats.
Not many broadcast facilities will take a DVCAM master...some will, but most won't. And depending on your client, they may or may not take an HDV master. They may want an HDCAM or D5 master if they are producing HD content. For that you need a capture card and high speed drive RAIDS.
Why do other pricier systems come with capture cards? Because they are sold that way. FCP, out of the box, is ready to edit DV, DVCPRO 50, DVCPRO HD and HDV...FULL RESOLUTION...no compression. Any need to do higher end requires a capture card.
Shane
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