CS4 marquee and paint bucket too sensitive

Hi, I've just upgraded from CS3 and straight away ive tried using the paint bucket, colouring a black and white image. When I either use the paint bucket or the marquee tool to select the white area inside the black lines, it randomly selects areas outside the black lines, even with Tolerance set to 0! I can't even use the program if the correct areas cant be selected. Any suggestions?
Thanks

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Hi,
Not a problem this apart from my ability to understand how
things work! - so sorry if this is a really stupid question - but
I'd be grateful if someone could enlighten me
If I draw (using old fashioned pen and paper) an line image
with a fair amount of detail, scan it and open it in Fireworks, I
can use the Paint Bucket tool to fill various parts of the image
with different colours (in other words it recognises the boundaries
between parts of the drawing.) This suits the way I like to work
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rogerfowles wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not a problem this apart from my ability to understand
how things work! - so
> sorry if this is a really stupid question - but I'd be
grateful if someone
> could enlighten me
>
> If I draw (using old fashioned pen and paper) an line
image with a fair amount
> of detail, scan it and open it in Fireworks, I can use
the Paint Bucket tool to
> fill various parts of the image with different colours
(in other words it
> recognises the boundaries between parts of the drawing.)
This suits the way I
> like to work perfectly
>
> On the other hand, other packages (including FreeHand)
don't seem to be able
> to do this.
>
> Am I missing something - or is there something unique
about the way Fireworks
> works?
>
> Thanks
>
> Roger
>
>
>

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