CS4 output from CS5.5

My printshop refuses to accept output from Indesign 5.5
Is there a receipe for converting this output to CS4?

I only read the title...
Bob's right. Send a PDF!

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SWF size when output from CS5 vs. CS6

Hi All,
I've hit a wall and I'm really hoping to get some help!
My company recently updated us from CS5 to CS6. I was pretty excited to start using the new Flash IDE and, for the most part, it's been great. However... there's one issue I can't seem to figure out.
We create lots of banners ads so we have templates built. If I open my 300x250 template in Flash CS5 and publish it's 8243 bytes per the size report. If I open the exact same FLA in Flash CS6 and publish it's 9873 bytes.
I've narrowed it down to miniscule differences in the shapes, but the main difference is in the fonts. The same characters are embedded in the FLA, but the file size is bigger when exported from CS6 (~1449 bytes or 1.4kb). Working in the advertising space we're constantly under the gun to keep our SWFs under 40kb so every little bit counts. This is an issue for our team as that extra 1.4kb means other things have to be compressed further resulting in lower quality.
Has anyone else run into this? I've searched and searched, but could only find a few threads that lead to no definitive answers. Is there a new setting in CS6 that can be turned off? Is there a new way of compressing fonts? For the time being we're reverting back to publishing our SWFs out of CS5 which is a huge headache and affects productivity.
Any help anyone can offer would be VERY much appreciated!
Best,
Vern

M47K / kglad...
Thanks for the responses. I double-checked and only the characters being used in the SWF are embedded, not the entire font.
Further, I did some more experimentation and while switching to LZMA compression helped, it didn't fix the issue. Here are some stats:
Flash Pro CS6 using "Deflate"
File Size: 9967 bytes
ActionScript: 2322 bytes
Font 1: 3665 bytes
Font 2: 819 bytes
Flash Pro CS6 using LZMA - Compared to CS6 using "Deflate"
File Size: 9550 bytes (417 bytes smaller)
ActionScript: 2236 bytes (86 bytes smaller)
Font 1: 3506 bytes (159 bytes smaller)
Font 2: 783 bytes (36 bytes smaller)
Flash Pro CS5 - Compared to CS6 using "Deflate"
File Size: 8353 bytes (1614 bytes smaller)
ActionScript: 2266 bytes (56 bytes smaller)
Font 1: 2472 bytes (1193 bytes smaller)
Font 2: 556 bytes (263 bytes smaller)
Any other help or tips that people might know about would be very much appreciated. As I mentioned in my initial post... I have to squeeze every bit of kb out of the work I do while maintaining quality images and animation so every little kb helps!
Thanks!
Vern

How to Edit Web Gallery Output from CS5?

Hello! I just upgraded from Photoshop CS3 to CS5. (Got some scrambling to do to catch up!) I had been using the old File>Automate>Web Photo Gallery to create galleries for my Web site. Massaged a little in Dreamweaver MX (I know, I know...) they look something like this:
http://www.techno-imaging.com/gal10spring/alden_b2/index.html
I found out how to add the old Web Photo Gallery back into Photoshop CS5, but was curious to find out what Bridge CS5 would do with Output>Web Gallery. I experimented with the Standard template and was mostly happy with the result. Here's what I got:
http://www.techno-imaging.com/gal10spring/alden_b2_test1/index.html
Trouble is I'd like to be able to customize the output a little more than allowed within the template itself. It looks like the output has Flash, JavaScript, XML, HTML and maybe other programming resources. I'm fairly familiar with HTML 3 and CSS, but am not a programmer. Can anybody recommend what high-level editing tools (example: Microsoft Word for fancy text editing) I could use to make some modest tweaks? The default modules are fine, but I'd at least like to be able to add a link back to my main gallery page like you see at the top right of my old Web Photo Gallery pages.
Also- are there 3rd party templates for Bridge CS5 Web Gallery?
Thanks, - Dave

Hi i7nvd
Oh my, I missed that completely! Thanks very much for bringing that to my attention. In the meantime I found that ACDSee would do a Web gallery that works OK for me. However I will go back to Bridge Output Web Gallery this afternoon and five it a whirl. Again, many thanks for jumping in and pointing that out to me. I appreciate it a lot!
BTW, thanks for the link to your site built with the Bridge plug-in. And congratulations on the wedding!
- Dave

Why is a color print from CS5 so different from the same image in CS4?

I have made prints from the same file using CS4 and CS5, and the prints from CS4 are showing what I think is good color. My monitor is calibrated, and I have always been quite happy with prints from CS4. When I make prints of the same files using CS5, the color is terrible compared to the CS4 print. I am using the same printer, same sRGB color space and all the settings in the "Print" dialog windows. I make sure the Color Handling box is set to "Photoshop Manages Colors" and I then go to the "Page Setup" box and make sure Color Settings is set to Off (No Color Adjustments). I am using a New MacPro Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 16 GB ram. I did notice that Apple Software Update did install Epson drivers after I installed CS5 Creative Suite 5 Design Premium. The color using CS5 looks the same starting in either 32 bit or in 64 bit. Another thing I notice is that printing on an Epson 2200 Stylus and using their 13x19 paper that the prints are being cropped to 5/8 inch into the full screen size of the images. I.E. The prints are losing 5/8 inch of what I see on the 30" Apple monitor. in both dimensions of the screen image. This cropping effect is showing now using CS4 and CS5. I have "Position" checked for Center Image, and Scale to Fit Media is also checked. I've been using PS since version 2 and have always been quite happy with the prints from my Epson printers and the prints from my Photo Lab, but the prints I am getting using CS5 are terrible. All the settings are the same in both the CS4 and CS5 "PRINT" windows.
HELP!!!! :-)

I have tried all of these things. I have checked and double-checked the print dialog. Sheet after sheet of paper goes by. Ink, at $40 per tank, is wasted. Results are still wrong. I followed your video. You use an Epson printer. I use an HP. Different print dialogs. different results. Whatever worked in previous PS versions does not work now. PS CS5 requires new settings to get the results that match what was determined by years of evolution and fine-tuning.
I set up all of those print dialog parameters but it required an adjustment layer or two to get the results I got using previous Photoshop. So I could do that with every image I printed with good results using previous versions. There is nothing out of gamut in these images, so I don't have unrealistic expectations about more saturation in the prints. Anyway, it's an 8-color printer that can handle a pretty wide gamut compared to a 4-color.
Wade, I know you are trying to help but this finger-wagging "error in your ways" and "you need to change your ways" stuff is patronizing. I did "change my ways" and try everything in your video. All was not well on the paper. I'm glad it worked out for you but it didn't for me. Accept it. I'm not some novice hobbyist still getting the hang of Photoshop. I've been using Photoshop since version 2. Adobe changed something in CS5. I haven't seen Chis Cox or any Adobe staffer jump into this discussion and say otherwise. Maybe there are no answers from the folks who should know the most about it. Maybe they're working on it.
It's not the first time Adobe has broken a tool. Anyone remember what happened to Outline Stroke in Illustrator CS2? It had previously made a path that could be edited by selecting points but after CS2, it was broken. Illustrator made a filled path that was nearly impossible to edit with all of the overlapping points. It was finally fixed in CS4. It's hard to understand how a useful tool that functioned properly in every version since it was introduced became an unusable mess. Maybe that's the case with PS CS5 and printing.
With 4,300+ posts in 14 months, maybe Wade has more time to tinker and tell us about it. I don't.
Or I could just print in CS4. At this point it's not that important to spend several days of testing to be able to say that CS5 can print my legacy stuff that was created and printed with various color profiles over a 12 year period. Maybe a more disciplined approach to color management would be a good way to work in the future when creating images, I'm dealing with tried-and-true printable images that were not done that way.
As long as Adobe doesn't make me give up CS4 to use CS5, I'll use it for printing.

Saving down from CS5 to CS4 cross-platform

Working on a PC, I am saving down from CS5 to CS4, exporting as an idml. The client is using CS4 on a MAC. When the file opens, the Master Page content is superimposing over the content of the page. Help!

Hi Bob and thank you for your help.
The answer to your question is yes. But now I have more information:
- I opened the idml file on my PC and I see the same thing as my client who is using a MAC.
- It occurred to me that my client created the original ind file himself (on a MAC) then sent it to me to work on.
- BUT my client's ind file was a originally a Quark file converted to InDesign CS4.
- I just completed another project for the client but I created it from scratch in CS5 then saved as an idml file so his MAC could read it. He had no problem with the idml file.
Judy
From: BobLevine <[email protected]>
To: Judy Schultz <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 12:46 pm
Subject: Saving down from CS5 to CS4 cross-platform
Is CS4 fully patched to 6.0.5?
Bob

MAC UPGRADE FROM CS4 STANDARD TO CS5 STANDARD OR EXTENDED

Hello,
I'm interested to find out how to MAC UPGRADE FROM CS4 STANDARD TO CS5 STANDARD OR EXTENDED. Its my intention to buy the upgrade not thru
download, but purchasing the dvd's needed eventually used if necessary.
Thank you

No, forget it. Adobe only sells current versions. How would you even be able to buy a used upgrade that is tied to someone else's previous version? Makes no sense at all and is clearly a breach of the EULA - whoever may sell you this "upgrade" would have to include all his previous versions leading up to that point, making it a completely independent full license that has no relation whatsoever to your CS4. And you would still have to run the license transfer drill.
Transfer an Adobe product license
Mylenium

Weird output from InDesign CS4

I have a PhotoshopCS4 tiff RGB placed in an indd doc, and am printing it on my inkjet (Epson Stylus Photo R1800). The image looks fine in PS, but when output from indd it gets weird patterns in certian areas. When I print it from PS it prints fine. See these attachments:
In PS:
From indd:
Here are my specs:
Mac os 10.5.8 on Dual 2.3ghz PPC G5
PS & Indd CS4
Epson Stylus Photo R1800
Printer Driver 6.12
Any ideas?

I seemed to narrow it down to a setting in the print driver. When in the Print dialog in ID, then hit "Printer...". In the pull down there is the "Color Matching" menu. The problem occurs when "ColorSync" is selected. When "Epson Color Controls" is selected the problem does not happen.
Any ideas?

How can i save a book organized files from CS5 to CS4?

I have a problem – a client has catalogues in CS5 and their translations agency work in CS4.
Catalogues are book organised and everyone contains 30-40 files so opening each one saving as idml, opening in CS4, saving in CS4, adding to book and looking for problems takes really long time.
Is there any short cut to make this faster!?
Thank you in advance.

Sorry, it'll be impossible for any of us (the forum regulars) to post in this thread without making obvious suggestions like this; it's safe to ignore these suggestions, I understand that you are powerless here to make reasonable suggestions like "Fire the incompetent translation firm that can't keep up with its clients and retain one that actually has the licenses for the apps necessary to complete the project." If nothing else, all of the people who search Google for the phrase "translation downsave CS5 CS4 book" will learn that the best answer is "tell your translation supplier that they will lose your business if they fail to upgrade."
But in your case - no, I know of no such script to re-save a CS4 book from IDMLs spat out of CS5. The scripting forum is thataway; maybe they know of a script someone else has already written for this purpose. Mostly because, especically in a book file, one of the steps before saving the INDDs and book in CS4 should be "a human compares the IDML opened in CS4 against the INDDs in CS5, or PDFs generated from same, before Saving As CS4 INDD."

I have upgraded from InDesign CS4 to InDesign CS5.

We have odd sized paper (9x17 inch) we print our newsletter on. What used to print just fine, now prints too far down and to the left. I thought it might be the printer setup but it also printed incorrectly on our Risograph (duplicater) Changing margins didn't help. Any suggestions. Am I in the right place to ask this question? Thanks.

Probably you're opening CS4 documents in CS5? If so, the converted documents have no path for the save() method. The script can be reconfigured to supply one like so:
app.scriptPreferences.userInteractionLevel = UserInteractionLevels.NEVER_INTERACT;
var myBook = app.open("C:\\forms\\0210.files\\zprint.indb", false),
    i, docPath, doc, j;
for (i = 0;i<myBook.bookContents.length;i++){
    docPath = myBook.bookContents[i].fullName;
    doc = app.open(File(docPath),false);
    for (j = 0; j < doc.links.length; j++) {
        doc.links.item(j).relink(File(doc.links.item(j).filePath));
    doc.save(docPath);
    doc.close();
app.scriptPreferences.userInteractionLevel = UserInteractionLevels.INTERACT_WITH_ALL;
You should be warned that this will overwrite your CS4 documents with CS5 documents.
Or, if you want to keep your script more or less as it is, you could remove or comment out this line:
app.scriptPreferences.userInteractionLevel = UserInteractionLevels.NEVER_INTERACT;
at the top and pick a save location for each file as it comes through in the UI.
Jeff

Color wrong when printing to Canon i9950 from CS5 apps and Acrobat, Win7 x64

When printing from InDesign CS5 on Win 7 x64 to Canon i9950 using the Canon ICM profiles (MP1, PR1, PR2, SP1) the colour output is completely wrong!
I disable the printer driver in the print prefs (set to "manual") and under "color management" choose "Let InDesign decide..." (no other option) for "color handling", and choose one of the above profiles for "printer profile", as appropriate to the paper in the printer, and the colours are totally out of whack.
If I just set the output "printer profile" to "Adobe RGB (1998)" the output is much better, but of course it still isn't quite correct, or properly set for the individual substrates, which the Canon ICMs are supposed to do.
Interestingly, when setting output to the Canon profiles, it makes no difference whether the printer manages colour (auto) or not (manual). Also, strangely, these profiles were working fine with CS4, before installing CS5, but now they are not working in CS4 either!
So now "colour management" is a joke thanks to CS5.

You might check with Canon to see if they've prepared any updated printer drivers you can download and install.
Scout around this forum, a number of folks have reported certain Epson models with similar issues. Feedback from Adobe was that they've switched to newer printer interfaces under the covers, and not all printer drivers work properly with those interfaces. In one case at least a new printer had to be purchased to fix the problem.
-Noel

Soundbooth CS4 - Output audio FLV does not include cues! ????

Hello folks,
I am in a bit of a pickle and hopefully someone can enlighten me.
I own Soundbooth CS4 and I was hoping to use this tool to create audio FLV files with embedded cues (aka markers).
To my great disappointment, the flash audio files I created do NOT include the embedded cues. Is this a known fault?
I was about to create a purchase requisition for Soundbooth CS5 but for some inexplicable reason, Adobe choose not to allow FLV output from the trial version. So there is no way for me to test the latest version from my work.
Can anyone explain to me how to create .flv audio files with embedded cues (aka markers) with Soundbooth CS4 and CS5? Is it possible?
My goal is to replace the flakey Moyea FLV editor Ultimate. Is this going to be possible?
Thank you

The following help file specifically states that one can indeed embed cue points within a saved .flv file.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Soundbooth/2.0/WSA5A1DDFB-6BE2-4486-BE0C-A10CEEF119ADa.html
This does not work for me in Soundbooth CS4 and I am unable to test CS5.

Opening CS4 Project in CS5

Hi Guys
I'm trying to open a CS4 project in CS5.
On opening I get a message saying it was created in an earlier version of Pr and must be converted. I click OK and get a screen showing all the project folders and clips with options to 'skip' or 'skip all'. I tried opening the folders but nothing is there and it says 'No items match your search'. I tried typing the project name into the 'File name' box; the same thing. I click on a clip but it that doesn't do anything either, so I click 'skip all' and when the project opens all the clips have been replaced by an image saying ' Media Offline'. I find if I right click on each clip I can relink but this would take some time as there are 75 in the project. Any ideas how I can open this project to work on?
Regards,
Graham

When you open a CS4 project in CS5, the required conversion will result in a new filename with _1 appended to the name. Then when opening this project you need to show PR where the files are located by directing it to the correct directory. Once you have done that for the first file, it will automatically find the other files in that directory. Since you have now offlined all the files by skipping them, I suggest you delete this CS5 project and import again from CS4 and taking the little time to direct PR to the correct media.

Upgrade paths from cs5 to cs5.5

Hello,
I just got off the phone with customer service. I upgraded from CS4 to CS5 in late December. I would like to upgrade InDesign from CS5 to the 5.5 version. I was told this isn't an option because I own the suite.
This perplexes me since I have purchased many, many single items from Adobe in the past--from Pagemaker 3 pretty much on. Is it really true that once I went to CS2 I abandoned my rights to upgrade individual products?
It seems a bit unreasonable, after spending $600 at the end of last year, that now, three months later, I need to spend another $400 just to update one program. Am I missing something?
I am posting here because the representative I spoke with had a really, really hard time understanding English and I'm not sure he even got my question. It took him over a half hour just to find my account and verify that I had a registered version of Design Premium. He told me that part of the problem was that I have purchased so many Adobe (and Macromedia) products over the past 15 years that I now have four accounts and that it was not possible to consolidate all my software under one single account. This also sounds very odd. HELP!
Thanks!
Ruth

I looked into crossgrading. The whole thing was a comedy of errors. My new custom built super-charged PC developed an un-diagnoasable software error, and then got stolen after being sent in for repaired. At the time, it seemed like my best option was to start the migration from Windows, buy a Mac laptop, get software to run on it, yet still keep my Windows options open in case the PC was found. I was using a backup PC to keep work on schedule.
I used one of my Macromedia cross-platform suite products to upgrade to the Mac CS3 suite. So it wasn't as expensive as it could have been. In hindsight, yes, I should have just abandoned the PC and crossgraded. But I was very fearful after all the computer issues I had encountered that I would have problems with one or the other of the two computers and I felt I needed some redundancy just to ensure I didn't have more downtime.
I'll look through the Adobe site for a license transfer form. When I called several months ago, the agent, made it sound like these were very difficult to come by. Or perhaps, the agent just didn't know. I've ran into this several times with Adobe. One agent tells you one thing, another says something entirely different. Customer service is lacking in my opinion.
Ruth

Is any one else have issues with interactive PDF output from InDesign CC (2014)

I am currently trying to produce a document with a level of interactivity I have achieved many times before.
The interactivity is just a web style menu, show/hide the menu shows button set one, clicking on those shows a second set of buttons, and clicking in one of those goes to destination page and hides all menu buttons once more.
When output from ID CC 2014 the result is loads of missing buttons and no working menu.
Its not a corrupt ID file. I tried a brand new empty file, recreated basic structure with simple one state buttons and achieved similarly useless results.
If I back save using IDML and open in CS5, export from there, it works beautifully, so problem is not as many have been recently, to do with Acrobat browsers.
If I back save and open in InDesign CC (not 2014), export from there, it doesn't work, so problem is shared there!
Anybody any suggestions? Experienced similar and found a cure?
SOLVED BY A COLLEAGUE:
You can (no longer) use full stops/decimal points in button naming. Menu was hierarchically labelled as 1, (1.1, 1.2), (1.1.1, 1.1.2) etc.
Renamed 1_1, 1_1_2 etc and all functionality has returned. Why you could and now you can't, who knows!
Hope this helps you if you stumble across here with the same issue.

Thank you for reporting this.
I would consider this a bug in InDesign CC v9.x and v10.x and would report it:
Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form
(Cannot test it right now.)
Uwe

I am steaming - Thru CS3 - CS4 and now CS5 Fireworks is crap

All through CS3, CS4 and now CS5 Fireworks on 3 different machines Windows XP, Windows Vista and now Windows 7... simply is a crappily written app. And I have been using Fireworks since Macromedia and these problems have only appeared from Adobe.
Is it to drive folks to Photoshop? After working on it for about 30 min you get 'low on memory' 'internal error'... it is unconscionable that an application that is so expensive can be written so appallingly. And when you run through the forums you just get tons of complaints about the shoddy code at Adobe.
All of the computers are stacked with 4GB, this one has 16GB on a blazingly fast Phenom Black but that's not the killer... no other app crashes. Not the little $5 dollar apps, not anything. It is so frustrating. Can't someone buy this place and straighten it out!!! Macromedia was known for ridiculously great code and features.
Had anyone solved this problem... I here if you login in as Donald Duck it might go away. What kind of nonsense is that?
Help!
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xgarth
don't get so steamy. I am on your side and I actually met Adobe marketing VP in Australia and told him that his CS ****, mmm I mean suite is worthless on a Mac at least. He couldn't care less. They don't fix things they market "upgrades" so idiots like you and me will keep on spending. I for instance use Adobe and Macromedia products since mid 90s' and I must say that nothing has changed for me since FW3 or 4 and Photosop 5.5. Illustrator should always stayed simple but they managed to make it so fat it barely moves. Flash also became something it wasn't intended for and it's days are numbered by HTML5. Adobe Acrobat? you must be kidding. I still don't know what the F this is all about. and so on and so on....
You will grow out of it eventually like I did. It doesn't worth it. Believe me. Just "upgrade" if you must have some feature. I think DW and Flash are the only products that need to be upgraded because of the industry it's linked to (web). the rest are just tools that still do what they did 10 years ago. they are only "integrated" now.
There are other tools you can use, not many but there are or simply don't upgrade!!! this is the best way for you and I to tell Adobe what we think.
Mic

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