CS4 Select---- Modify behavior changed/broken?

Hi,
In previous versions, I could Select--->All, then Select--->Modify--->Contract, which is very useful for creating frames, vignettes, etc. In CS4, after Select--->All, all of the Modify options are ghosted out (inactive) except Border, which is not at all the same as Contract.
Can anyone comment on this?
Thanks,
Neil

J & Josh,
Thanks for the great techniques, guys I do appreciate it. Here are the steps I've been using, which are, I believe, actionable, but since I can do it in 30 or 40 seconds, I haven't bothered. Just lazy, I guess. Bear in mind, I don't generally batch process, and every "frame" is a little different, so I haven't canned this. This is a technique that I just concocted by necessity over the last year or so of processing photos. The bat is just one of a thousand variations/examples. So for that particular frame, if memory serves...
SHIFT-CTRL-N
CTRL-A
CTRL-ALT-[ (my shortcut for Contract Selection)
50 [ENTER]
SHIFT-CTRL-I
CTRL-ALT-D
1 [ENTER]
Choose Bucket Fill & pick a color & fill
CTRL-A
CTRL-ALT-[
30 [ENTER]
SHIFT-CTRL-I
CTRL-ALT-[
10
CTRL-ALT-D
1 [ENTER]
Choose Bucket Fill & pick a color & fill
(It looks longer on paper than it is, believe me.)
So if I were to create an action, I'd have 7 "input" variables I could play with. But without the action, I can also add or subtract steps to increase/decrease the complexity of the frame. I know you guys might disagree, but for me this is fast, and gives me a lot of control over the process, and an infinite variety of "one of a kind" frames I can season to taste. But the methods you propose are also excellent. Thanks. I still hope that Adobe will find it in their hearts to put this back the way it was...

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Okay, I know this has been posted before and I've read 4 or 5 threads with no resolve for me. The problem is that after using my select all, or using the marquee tool (tried both ways) to draw the selection my contract option is still grayed out it (like most everyone else has said). Only difference is, it was WORKING fine 30 min ago, I've used it many times while working on numerous documents and now all of the sudden it wont work on anything. I havn't made any changes to any prefs, but maybe I hit a hotkey and locked something? I remember when my define pattern was grayed out, I read a post where I clicked one simple option and voila it was back to normal...something with a spacebar shortcut I think? Too long ago to remember, anyways I was hoping there might be an option for this. I know the work arounds and use them from time to time, but I really would like for shortcut to be normal again
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Hi All,
Apologies if this has already been discussed somewhere previously, but I'm getting very frustrated that I can't seem to easily accomplish what should be a very simple task:
I am using CTRL+A to "Select All" and then trying to contract the selection by X pixels. Apparently my only option after a Select All command is to use the "Border" command, but this always seems to feather the selection, no matter what I do. I know there are some "workarounds" to get the selection I want, but seriously, this is so dead simple of a task I'm going bonkers here.
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