CS5 Illustrator - trying to create bleeds for a pdf?

Hello:
I am in CS5 Illustrator and I am setting up a greeting card for press. In the same document I set up two pages for the front and back. Two panels for each page. I put 1/8" bleeds. How do you have the bleeds show up in the pdf? I know how to do it in InDesign but in Illustrator is it done differently. I can make trim marks but no bleeds show up, I even specified document bleeds in the pdf dialog box. Do you have to make the page bigger to compensate for the bleeds.
Thanks in advance.

File >> Document Setup
Then when you make the pdf keep use Marks and Bleeds >> Bleeds >> Use Document Bleed Settings checked

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