CS6 content aware fill and spot healing smudge

I just upgraded to CS6 64 bit under Windows 7. I used content aware fill and the spot healing tool on CS5 under XP with no problems. Now under CS6 they leave a smudge. For example, if the is a spot on a vein of a leaf, now, instead of removing the spot and filling in the line of the vein I just get a smudge the size of the spot healing brush.
Content aware fill now leaves a smudged and obviously poor result.
Is there some new option or behavior under CS6 that I need to understand to fix this or is this simply a bug?
Thanks for any and all help.
Selby

I have been experimenting and have found out something more. Previously, before doing a content aware fill operation I would create a new layer at the top of the layer stack that was a merge of all layers below it (Ctrl-Alt-Shift-E) and the content aware fill operation worked very well.
In CS6 it now appears to me that it still gets influenced by the lower layers in the stack, despite the fact that it is operating on the merge of those layers. If I duplicate the image, and then flatten the duplicate, the content aware fill operation then in some cases works as I would expect. I then duplicate the layer back to my original image, delete the parts I don't need and put it at the top of the stack in my original image.
So something appears to have changed in CS6 and it might be a bug.
Selby

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I hadn't noticed any demonstration of content-aware fill on a document having multiple pixel layers.
Here are the results from my testing. (They may be wrong!)
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For fill, content-awareness only extends to pixels in the current layer. It doesn't look below. If the current layer is empty, then Photoshop comes back with a message that filling is not possible in content-aware mode, because not enough content can be found. If the current layer is blank (e.g. all white), then you just get more blank. That's fair enough. You could use content-aware fill early, on source layers, or late and destructively, after flattening. But not what I'm looking for.
The same is not true of the spot healing brush, which has both a "content aware" option and a "sample all layers option". And it works wonders. It does exactly what I want. Empty layer, sample all layers, run the the brush over dodgy parts of the image, and hey presto—it really does feel as if you have a wand in your hand.
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You're asking about a pretty rarified realm. Not a whole lot of people ever have 24GB let alone beyond.
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You definitely DO want a workstation that's been purpose-built for extra throughput and reliability if you're going to be working on ultra-large datasets.
I'd say buy the workstation with 24 GB of RAM and see how it goes. Also the RAID is a very good idea (I use RAID 0). Apparently the 6 Gb/sec SATA stuff is starting to become real too, though most drives can't even keep up with the old 3 Gb speed yet.
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trfab

Thanks for passing that along.
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Here's my best concoction using clone stamps etc., but I feel like from the look of it alone I can tell I'm using the wrong tools...or using the right tools incorrectly

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I've done a (hopefully) fairly exhaustive search, and don't see anything on how to use these things together...
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