CS6 Monitor Color Settings

Hi There,
Just wondering in the photoshop CS6 Color settings, "Edit\Color Settings" should the profile be set to monitor color if I have a calibrated monitor, or one of the other settings such as the default.

No.
It is definitely not a good idea to set your monitor profile as your RGB working space. I would choose one of the Europe or North America Presets.

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Dual monitor color settings seems to be messed up cs4

Hi
My daughter has this setup
AMD 9550 quad 2.2mhz machine, Windows 7 ultimate. latest updates
ATI Radeon HD 5700 gpu card (latest driver)
Two LCD monitors
          1. LG 2361V HDMI (main)
          2. Cintiq 21UX (Extended)
Both monitors are calibrated, and have the latest driver updates. It does not matter which monitor is the main one.
PS cs4 also has the
1. If i load a photo in fireworks and drag the application back and forth accross the two monitors, the image looks virtually identical.
2. If i load the same photo in PS (cs4 11.0.1) and do the same, the image looks perfect in the LG but immediately darkens when on the Cintiq.
          a. The darkening is not instantanious. It looks good for about one second before it changes.
          b. If I hover the image between the two monitors, then the darkening only is applied to half of the image.
3. If i change the preferences to not "color match" (in the performance->open GL) then the image does not darken and it remains loyal to the color profile in place. But!!!! the navigator and color selection tools remain darkened while on the Cintiq. So if she chooses a color from the tool, it paints a different color on the canvas.
          a. If I modify the color settings, then the modification affects both monitors display and the difference issue does not go away.
Ideally we want to be able to select a color from the palette and have that color be what is painted onto the canvas. We also want the image to appear as similar as they do in fireworks.
While Color Matching is checked:
On the cheaper monitor, the image and the navigation pane always has the same color appearance. when i change the color profile, the change is reflected in both the canvas and the navigation pane.
The same is true on the Centiq, but the image and navigation pane is always darker than on the other monitor.
While Color Matching is UNchecked:
The color selection tool and the navigation panel are affected but the canvas is not. But the two monitors canvases match.
So. in order for the navigation and color selction tool to match the canvas, the color matching needs to be checked.
But this creates the darkening on the cintiq. No matter what profile i choose, the cintiq is too dark. and photoshop is doing it because fireworks does not do this.
How can i set it up so that all the colors are true to the profile, and match the nav and color tools?
Thank you
Any ideas will be appreciated.
Jerry C

Thanks
@Noel
It sounds as if the monitors are using two quite different profiles, which may indicate the calibration is off a good bit on one of them and the profile was generated to compensate. The clue here is that you see a change when you move a document from one to the other, and that temporarily (while an image crosses both monitors) you see quite a difference in it.
If you drag an image in a non-color-managed application across both monitors, so that specifically part of it is shown on one and part on the other, how different do they look?
Using fireworks or MSpaint or IExplore, an image looks pretty much exactly the same on either monitor as well as when spanning accross both.
The two monitors are clibrated so that all colors match on both monitors.
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
The Cintiq has a better contrast ratio so the whites are slightly brighter.
But!!! If the moitors were not calibrated, then a fireworks image would look different on each screen. In fact they look exactly the same on both.
Even when the image spans accross the two screens.
It is only Photoshop that darkens the part of the image that hangs onto the Cintiq. And it is very dark.
Even in the famed "Monitor mode", the image is much darker than is is in IIE or MSPaint or Fireworks.
I dont want to disable the color profiling, as it is important to see what the target will look like.
But i do want to see what the target will look like! right now it is way to dark. No matter what profile i choose.
Also my examples are more to demonstrate the comparrison between the two monitors, but the goal is to get PS CS4 to work on the centiq. It would be nice to have the navigator and some panels on the other monitor and have the colors match, but more important is to have the colors on the cintiq look normal at all!
Thanks so far. but we are still messed up.
Jerry C

Why doesn't PS CS6 accept color settings profile?

I've seen this question asked here and elsewhere, but without any resolution, and can't find any mention in the documentation.....
I customized Illustrator's color settings thusly:
But when I save the profile and try to load it in Photoshop, it throws this error:
"The color settings file contains settings that are not supported by this version of Photoshop running on this system. These unsupported settings will be reset to their default values."
Then if I close the dialog box, re-open it, and manually choose the same settings, it seems to accept it. Here is what Photoshop currently shows:
Anyone know what's going on? I'm running the CS6 Master Collection on an Intel quad core with 8 gb RAM and an nVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti (2 gb PCIE 2). OS is Win 7 x64.

Sounds like Illustrator is saving some color settings data that Photoshop can't read. (normally it's the other way: Photoshop saves lots of settings that other apps don't use)
We'll have to do some testing to figure out what that is and why it's triggering the warning (not an error).

CS6 and ACR Color Settings

Ok ... I have researched the internet entirely three times over and I can't figure this out. I'll give you as much information as I can think of right from the start. I know it has to do with color management, but I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Shoot photos with Canon 6d in sRGB color space
Open .CR2 with Adobe ACR v8.8.0.397
Color space in ACR is sRGB IEC6 1966-2.1, 8 bit
Click on "Open Image", which opens Adobe CS6
Proof Colors are set to unchecked (off).
Color settings in CS6 are:
Here's the comparison of ACR and CS6:
What am I doing wrong? If my color settings are the same between ACR and CS6 (as shown above), shouldn't' the images be the same in both ACR and photoshop?
Let the bashing begin ...

They should indeed. This is a broken monitor profile, affecting the two differently.
Recalibrate, and make sure your calibrator produces v2, matrix-based profiles (if you don't have those options it does). V4 and LUT profiles can be problematic in some cases. If you don't have a calibrator, use sRGB IEC61966-2.1 for now. Relaunch Photoshop when done:
BTW, the camera setting for color space is moot. That applies to in-camera processed jpegs, not raw files.

Photoshop CS6 Color Settings

I was disappointed to see that the CS6 More Options panel still has 8 bit dither. Why isn't it 10 bit by default ? Shouldn't Photoshop be sending 10 bit to monitors with 10 bit LUT for real wide gamut? Some printers are going beyond 8 bit now, also.

Not following you here, Lundberg02.
The only mention of 8-bit I see in the More Options panel of Color Settings in CS6, is the box that controls whether 8-bit images use dithering when converting them from one color space to another.
What are you looking at that leads you to reference monitors, 10 bit, LUT, etc.?
What am I missing? Or are we looking at different things?
This is just a conversion option for 8-bit images that may need dithering when converted from one color space to another one. 16-bits images do not need dithering when converted.

Color settings between the Mini and Dell monitor

I got my new Mac Mini Intel Solo yesterday and hooked it up to my Dell 20" widescreen flat-panel. As soon as my screen popped up, the color scheme was waaaay off. It was too red. So I messed with all different kinds of color settings on the monitor itself and then tried to calibrate the monitor through OS X. Nothing worked and I couldn't get the settings right. Can someone help me? Is there a standard setting that works or is there a site I can go to with a bunch of different color settings I can try? It's really frustrating!!!
Thanks in advance for any help!

What exactly do you mean by "the color scheme was waaaay off"?
The general setup of you display should be…
1) Display internal setting to default with the Colour Setting set to either PC Standard Preset or Mac Standard Preset (I found the Mac preset somewhat warmer/redder than the PC) and the Brightness set to your liking.
2) Mac OS X set to use the DELL 2005FPW (or whatever is the default colour profile that matches your model) in the Displays System Preference.
This will work for most people.

MOnitor profile and Photoshop Color settings

I have performed the color calibration on my iMAC monitor with Eye One and the profile was loaded into the preferences of the system. The system ofcourse loads it on start up.
Do I have to enter this color profile in any of the Photoship CS4 preferences set ups, like color settings, or will Photoshop automatically assume the monitor profile at startup?
I mean: after calibrating the monitor, do I have to do further adjustments to PS CS4 color settings?
Cheers.

No.

Photoshop Color Settings for Wide Gamut Monitor

Hey guys,
I have a wide gamut monitor (HP LP2475w) which has already been calibrated. My question isn't so much about that, but the settings I should be using inside of Photoshop (CS5). As far as color settings (ctrl+shift+k) goes, what am I supposed to use? I have sRGB as the rgb working space right now. (never use CMYK), Gray % Spot = dot gain 20%, and preserve profiles are ticked on for all 3. Am I supposed to be using Adobe RGB in RGB working space to get the most out of my monitor? I'm asking because it would be embarrassing if I had a wide gamut monitor and am working within a sRGB color cap. Please enlighten me with the proper photoshop color settings, so that it works well across the board (browser compatibility, etc)
As a FYI, I am a professional digital artist who specialize in illustrations for print campaigns. So far from what I've seen, whatever's been printed out of what I produce from this monitor has come out pretty much looking the same, so I'm not worried about that. Again, I just want to make sure I'm not careless and am using settings which doesn't make use of a wide gamut monitor.
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I think a lot of users believe that the Color Settings have much bigger role than what they actually do most of the time.
When working with images you have to be always aware about the color space the image is currently displayed in.
In Photoshop the displayed color space of an image is obtained in the following order of priority:
1. from the choice in View > Proof Setup menu when the View > Proof Colors is checked.
2. when the Proof Colors is off, from the embedded profile.
3. when the Proof Colors is off and when the image is without a color profile (untagged) from the Working Color space selected in the Color Settings.
This image shows how to check the color profile of an image - I keep it permanently on.
As you can see, the color spaces selected for working spaces in the Color settings affect the display of images only when they are untagged (without color profiles). The color settings also set the default choice of a color space when you create a new document but you can always select another color space form the Advance section of the dialog that appears when you choose File > New. You can also assign a color space to any image by using Edit > Assign Profile. So, if you never work with untagged images, you really don't need to care at all what your working spaces in your Color Settings are set to. You can use the Color Management Polices in the Color settings as a tool that will ask you what to do when you have profile mismatch when you paste. Personally I never use these because I'm always aware of the color space of the pasted content. Also the conversion method set in the Color Settings will be used when pasting. If you want different conversion method paste the content in a new document created with the color space of the clipboard content and then choose Edit > Convert to Profile and after that copy and paste in the desired document with the same color space.

Color Settings issue in Photoshop CS6

We are currently using G7 Workflow for our profile. I have a couple of questions concerning the color settings.
1.We are also not able to hold these settings even once we leave it as "Custom". It defaults back to U.S. Sheetfed Coated Profile.
2. When trying to set color setting with our profile, it says it is not supported by this version of Photoshop (CS6). It will set this to "Custom" instead of G7 Workflow. What can we do to fix this issue? Please see below for the screen captures.
Please help! Thanks in advance!

Where did you get that color settings file? How was it created?

How to push color settings and profiles?

I understand AAMEE 3.0 does not support packaging settings alltogether with the apps.
So the questions comes, how do you guys push the color settings and the workspaces to the newly deployed CS6 packages?
Is there a safe/approved way to do it?
Thank you.

FOGRA39 is fine for sheet fed offset-printing in Europe (central Europe at least).
For web fed offset printed magazines you may want to use either ISO Coated v2 300 (ECI) or PSO LWC Improved (ECI) if you have no further information.
And for newspapers ISOnewpaper26v4.
http://www.eci.org/doku.php?id=en:downloads
You may want to read up (in the Help or other resources) on Color Management, though, to get a grasp on factors like Render Intent.
And better not use »Assign Profile« unless you are certain you understand what this does.
Will be printed CMYK image as well, as it looks?
That would naturally depend on your monitor and how regularly it is calibrated.

Creative Suite Color settings disabled

Hi,
I'm wondering why I'm getting a following error message (Suite Color Management is not enabled, Suite Color Management requires that a qualifying product has been launched at least once to enable this feature) when trying to change the color settings from Bridge? This is something I've done before. I have been using CS6 for at least 2 and a half years and it's officially bought (student version). I've been using Bridge, Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator and Acrobal ever since. Any ideas?

the integrated Adobe RGB preset and a standard profile.
i am not sure what that means?
can´t get any further is the color rendering in PS and ACR, the colors are limited
Photoshop and ACR convert/transform the source space to the monitor profile so when you Assign/softproof a different profile of course Photoshop will display it differently (it is totally predictable)
Softproofing in PS
View> Proof Setup generally confuses most people and discussions about trying to troubleshoot display issues...
left: proofing OFF
middle: sRGB proof
right: monitor proof
proofing off: this is what you want to "proof" your source document 'accurately' on your monitor (use/apply the correct ICC profile and Photoshop will display your document properly) -- softproofing is generally used to "soft proof" a device-specific profile, like a printer
sRGB proof: that is unclear, you mean you Edit> Assigned sRGB profile (or you are softproofing the sRGB colorspace)?
monitor proof: you mean you, Edit> Assigned the monitor profile (or are softproofing Monitor RGB)?

Color Settings: Getting colors in PS CC to match colors of the image when used as a Windows Background

or vice versa. I probably do not know enough to be able to ask the question properly.
The colors of photos in PS CC are not the same when used as a desktop background in Windows 7. The colors are somewhat more saturated when as a background on the desktop and while not totally unusable, it would be nice to have matching color between my PS editing screen and the photo as viewed as a desktop background.
The following are some conditions that may or may not be relevant to the answer of my following question.
1.) I am a complete novice to Color Management so a presumption of knowledge and the heavy use of jargon may not penetrate my head.
2.) I shoot with sRGB embedded in my photos.
3.) My RAW conversions use sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1.
4.) My PS Color Settings are North American General Purpose 2 with sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1 as the working space and Intent as Relative Colormetric
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6.) In the Win 7 Control Panel>Color Management>Advanced, Device profile = System Default sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1 and (everything else set to System Defaults too). The only difference from the PS Color Settings being that Windows is defaulted to Perceptual Intent, but a change in either PS or Win 7 has no effect on the relative color differences.
7.) The monitor is set to the Native internal preset, but the relative differences in color remain the same even if the monitor is changed to sRGB, or any other internal preset.
8.) I have Proof Setup set to Monitor RGB but none of the settings will match the Win 7 Background color.
Now, my question is this. How would you set up your color settings/profile in PS and/or Windows to match color between PS and the Windows desktop of Windows 7?

Nevermind. I didn't have Proof Colors checked.

Strange Monitor Colors

Have Eizo CE210W Monitor calibrated using Eizo software and a SpyderPro2. In CS3, Bridge, and Camera Raw, the shadow areas in pure grayscale black and white pictures are dark olive green rather than pure black. This is true for both jpg and RAW. However, the same photo open at the same time in Microsoft Photo Viewer is pure black, no green. Workspace in Photoshop is set to Adobe RGB. Any ideas?

When my monitor "entered" my office, it looked already very close in it's uncalibrated state.
I had to convince myself that the Color Navigator actually uploaded the profile to the monitor by deliberately creating a corrupt calibration.
I put a light cyan theatre floodlight filter between the screen and the colorimeter.
And yes, I then had a heart rhythm disturbing magenta screen staring at me. So it really calibrated.
I quickly recalibrated this purple softbox into my familiar Eizo monitor.
You had ColorNavigator 5? I know it exists, but in the process of getting it downloaded it's always version 3. Maybe 3 is the highest for XP.
Rob
Edit: you can see which profile PS uses by looking in the Color Settings drop down menu. Next to monitor. Don't click on it, or it becomes your Working Space.
Here's mine:
http://www.faces-and-stuff.nl/Forum/CS-dialog.jpg
Rob

Monitor color vs. sRGB

Hello!
So I finally calibrated my Dell U2410 monitor with a colormunki display and the results were very good. The only thing tho is that when I upload an illustration made in PS CC to, say, deviantart or imgur or whatever, the colors are a bit of. Generally it's the warmer part of the spectrum that gets a bit washed out for some reason. I solved this by setting my color settings in PS to Monitor Color instead of the standard sRGB and now it looks perfect. My questions is: is there some downside to using Monitor color? Or will I run in to trouble if I, say, need to print something? I guess I need to convert my old .psd files to my new color setting?
Thankful to any answer!

is there some downside to using Monitor color?
Apart from making a mockery of Color Management?
• Basically you are circumventing Color Management that way – instead of creating images in one (or a few) RGB Color Spaces whose display is corrected according to the monitor profile you are passing the RGB values to the screen directly (as long as the image’s profile is the current monitor profile).
• Please consider that a monitor profile is but supposed to represent the "current" state of your ageing/changing monitor and and you are expected to create a monitor profile anew at intervals and subsequently the images you create would have many different Color Spaces as time goes on.
If you base Color Management decisions on the display of images in non-Color Managed applications (as you don’t mention which browser you used to display the pages mentioned I suspect they may be or even whether you embedded the profile in the images) you may want to do some more reading on the issue.

2nd monitor color management: Ps v Lr

Please help me understand the following problem ... but first, my hardware: Macbook Air (mid-2011) with OS X 10.8, with a NEC wide gamut P221W monitor connected as a secondary display. The NEC display is calibrated with Spectraview and an X-rite eye-one display sensor.
I usually work with Lightroom 4 exclusively, but I will on occassion turn to Photoshop CS5 for working with layers. I've configured Lr for using Ps as a alternate editor and Lr is supposed to create a PSD file, 16bit and embed ProphotoRGB as it working color space. The problem is, these exported PSD images appear undersaturated on the NEC display ... but examining the PSD data implies PpRGB. Ps is configured for AdobeRGB, but appropriately asks about the mismatch, and I select use PpRGB These undersaturated colors are in contrast with how Lr displays the same image on the same monitor. Also, if I put both images on the Macbook primary display (Lr in the background, Ps in front), the colors appear to be the same. Also, if I quit both programs and open Ps only and then load the recent image, the colors will appear with correct saturation ...
I can only conclude that Lr interferes with Ps properly compensating via the NEC's display profile ... and therefore I'll need to close Lr when editing with Ps. Has this behaviour been verified by anyone else? Is there a remedy??
TIA & Cheerios from the Avalon

>it shows the mismatch dialogue box: Embedded Adobe RGB 1998, Working: Monitor3-7-08.
Ow, this means you have Photoshop set up incorrectly. Go to Edit->Color settings and make sure that the top-profile (RGB) says adobeRGB. You should never have a monitor profile there except if you're a web designer.
>DYP, you can change LR colour space to other than ProPhoto as default.
No you cannot. You can only change the default profile Lightroom uses to send to Photoshop. Lightroom ALWAYS uses a prophotoRGB-like working space internally for every picture.
>I set it to Adobe RGB to sync with camera and PS.
If you shoot RAW, the in-camera setting does not matter and Lightroom will render as wide as prophotoRGB.
>Would changing to ProPhoto colour space not cancel my calibrated monitor profile? Or am I misunderstanding the principles behind monitor calibration?
No, they have nothing to do with each other. Color managed apps automatically translate between their working space and the monitor profile. This capability is the basic meaning of being color managed. They get the information about the monitor profile from the OS. You never have to tell them about it. Photoshop just knows it. You do not have to set it up anywhere.

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