CS6 Premeiere pro & Plural eyes export problems same sequence...

Hey guys, i bought plural eyes to make my work flow easy not harder? Opened and started a new wedding project, no transisitions no effects, so i decided to start with the ceremony, 40 minutes of camcorder two dslr footage, with the voice recorder sounding good, sent to plural eyes, synced up had to ctrl arrow and sort into place first though a regular thing with the voice recorder??? Does not seem to sync the middle track well on the timeline if three lots of footage. So exported back to the timeline brilliant. Sorted. Now onto the speeches, so seperated the dad, groom and best man created three new seuqences. Started on the dads, sent to plural eyes from the cs6 timeline and new sequence, synced ok, then send back tio the cs6 timeline and generic error again. It seems every time i work on a project do a first sync, i cannot do any more syncs in the same project???? Help, its driving me nuts, im wasting more time than syncing myself... pheeeew? steve

Now I'm intrigued. Did you ever do this with Premiere pro CS 5.5 and experience the slipping? I have on occasion experienced some slipping with very long spanned clips in 5.5 but this is understandable.
Anyway, if I wanted to export a new clip at the best quality I could, I would use Prores 422 HQ. I often do that in some projects if I'm using a lot of effects on a particular clip because Premiere Pro will just bog down. So in the sequence I set the in and out points for the work area, then just export that section as Prores 422 HQ highest render quality. Then I import that .mov and place it above the clip in the sequence and then deactivate the original clip so it doesn't get bogged down. Later if I wanted to, I could deactivate the .mov and reactivate the original to get the best quality but this type of transcode to prores is not really noticable. This is on a Mac with the prores codecs installed. If I was on a PC, I have heard good things about Cineform and DNXHD files. I would not use a long GOP codec such as any of the mpeg or H.264 flavors but if you have to use H.264 I'd use one for blu ray with a very high bitrate. I have a custom H.264 one that I use for uploads to Vimeo and Youtube that is VBR from 14-40 mbs and this results in really good results when Youtube and Vimeo do their web-ready conversions.
The slipping, however seems strange and might be a bug in CS6.

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If you are going to color correction, why do you need an output? Aren't they color correcting the native files?
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As I explained I simply rendered because the software was having several random "Unkown" problems in exporting. I though rendering and exporting a file matching the timeline settings would have solved those annoying Unkown Errors, giving me at list an export based on the render sttings.
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Beside questioning me with why I want to render or export my project,
Not questioning your capabilities or talents, I just wanted to know what you wanted to do, and why. Typically, most people don't render as much in Premiere Pro as they do in other NLEs and I was wondering why you needed an export to go to color correction. That's all.
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http://forums.adobe.com/message/4661398
There could be many different variables which can cause that error. The troubleshooting doc you found addresses many of those. I will add the "Unknown Error" warning to the document.
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I will also mention it to the product team.
I understand that, being an "Unkown Errror" Adobe does not have a iniversal fix, but please don't ask me why I want to output my timeline.
Again, I was only asking in the context of color correction. Of course, you want an output for various reasons.
I've written up your bad experience in my case notes and I'll do my best to get you some better answers to your questions. You definitely should not have to jump through hoops to render or export a .R3D sequence.
Neonhigh wrote:
Here is a temporary fix for who runs into this problem:
Yesterday, after trying everything I could think of I simply exported an XML, opened it in Final Cut Pro and exported all the files and formats that I needed. No Unknown Errors.
Thanks for the workaround. I'll add it to my notes.

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