CUA on PRD without child systems

Hi,
We are planing to implement CUA on PRD without child systems. And also DEV as the parent for all non-productive systems. Anybody provide pros/cons making PRD as parent without child systems? Is it recommended?
Thanks
Craft

Hi,
CUA without child system is of no use. One of the use that I can explain it to you is say:-
For example:- If you want to assign 10 similar roles to 100 similar user in DEV,Quality or Prod
1.If CUA is present:-
You can assign all roles to all user in DEV,Quality or Prod via CUA which will save your time
2.If CUA is not present:-
You have to assign all roles to all user first in DEV and then Quality and then in Production which will be more time consuming. You have to log in to individual system and then assign.
Even maintainance of user becomes easy if you have CUA system. Even removal of roles becames easier
CUA system without a child system will not be called as CUA system. It will be normal system.

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    >
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    >
    Nishant Sourabh wrote:
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