CUCM BE5000 to BE6000

I'm on a journey to upgrade my current BE5000 IBM 7828 server to a virtualized environment. I currently am running version 8.6 of cm/unity. To my understanding I need to upgrade to version 9.x before making the move to BE6000. At some point I believe cm and unity split into separate products. I currently have a UCS C200 that I can use as a temporary server to perform the migration and my current VM environment has Dell PE730 servers that I want to eventually use for the UC environment. So is this the proper migration path below:
Upgrade to 9.x of BE5000
Upgrade to BE6000 (which supports virtualization) from 9.x of BE5000
I also have Presence 8.6, UCCX 8.5, and Workforce Optimization Advance Call Recording 8.5.2 that I will be upgrading as well. These products are already virtualized on my PE R730's.
I have UCSS on all of my products so I will be using the PUT tool to request the various upgrades.
As far as the licensing goes, I assume I just need to email [email protected] for the new licenses? I have already done this for my UCCX environment, (had to change primary DNS),and have not heard anything and it has been 5 days. Am I using the correct path to perform the license requests? In my opinion 5 days is way to long for this service, especially for the price I pay for UCSS and smartnets. Oh, well I'll quit ranting about that.

"my current VM environment has Dell PE730 servers that I want to eventually use for the UC environment"
First of all to be clear, since your post says you want to move to BE6k. BE6k is only supported on UCS hardware (C220/200). Its a packaged solution, contains pre-installed ESXi, pre-loaded software, UCS hardware.
You can certainly use third party servers for UC (non BE6K), but review the supported hardware specs:
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/UC_Virtualization_Supported_Hardware#.22Can_I_use_this_server.3F.22
For license part you are on right track, Cisco licensing team should be able to help you.
-Terry

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    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974-AP;ft=3,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport=30522;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400498_2400522;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400497_2400521;branch=z9hG4bK129750805377494,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb-AP;ft=19;received=10.5.2.51;rport=19140,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.1.30:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb
    From: <sip:[email protected];user=phone>;tag=ac493fe8-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-2b7d5ad-3fa2ea5
    To: <sip:7317;[email protected];user=phone>
    Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:12:41 GMT
    Call-ID: abef5b48-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-5d08551f-3fa2ea5
    CSeq: 1 INVITE
    Allow-Events: presence
    Content-Length: 0
    SIPTcp - wait_SdlSPISignal: Outgoing SIP TCP message to 10.5.2.51 on port 46314 index 6
    [1181,NET]
    SIP/2.0 404 Not Found
    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974-AP;ft=3,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport=30522;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400498_2400522;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400497_2400521;branch=z9hG4bK129750805377494,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb-AP;ft=19;received=10.5.2.51;rport=19140,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.1.30:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb
    From: <sip:[email protected];user=phone>;tag=ac493fe8-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-2b7d5ad-3fa2ea5
    To: <sip:7317;[email protected];user=phone>;tag=580~35abe322-3212-479c-8a2c-ab75ead590d5-21575914
    Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:12:41 GMT
    Call-ID: abef5b48-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-5d08551f-3fa2ea5
    CSeq: 1 INVITE
    Allow-Events: presence
    Reason: Q.850;cause=1
    Content-Length: 0
    SIPTcp - wait_SdlReadRsp: Incoming SIP TCP message from 10.5.2.51 on port 46314 index 6 with 623 bytes:
    [1182,NET]
    ACK sip:[email protected] SIP/2.0
    Route: <sip:10.5.131.12;transport=tcp;lr;phase=terminating>
    Call-ID: abef5b48-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-5d08551f-3fa2ea5
    From: <sip:[email protected];user=phone>;tag=ac493fe8-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-2b7d5ad-3fa2ea5
    To: <sip:7317;[email protected];user=phone>;tag=580~35abe322-3212-479c-8a2c-ab75ead590d5-21575914
    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974-AP;ft=3
    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport=30522;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400498_2400522;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974
    CSeq: 1 ACK
    Max-Forwards: 66
    Content-Length: 0
    SIPTcp - wait_SdlSPISignal: Outgoing SIP TCP message to 10.5.2.51 on port 46314 index 6
    [1180,NET]
    SIP/2.0 100 Trying
    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974-AP;ft=3,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport=30522;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400498_2400522;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400497_2400521;branch=z9hG4bK129750805377494,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb-AP;ft=19;received=10.5.2.51;rport=19140,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.1.30:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb
    From: <sip:[email protected];user=phone>;tag=ac493fe8-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-2b7d5ad-3fa2ea5
    To: <sip:7317;[email protected];user=phone>
    Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:12:41 GMT
    Call-ID: abef5b48-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-5d08551f-3fa2ea5
    CSeq: 1 INVITE
    Allow-Events: presence
    Content-Length: 0
    CUCM not found message:
    SIPTcp - wait_SdlSPISignal: Outgoing SIP TCP message to 10.5.2.51 on port 46314 index 6
    [1181,NET]
    SIP/2.0 404 Not Found
    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974-AP;ft=3,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport=30522;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400498_2400522;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.50:15060;rport;ibmsid=local.1372169047609_2400497_2400521;branch=z9hG4bK129750805377494,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb-AP;ft=19;received=10.5.2.51;rport=19140,SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.1.30:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-3fa2ea5-894636b6-7d11effb
    From: <sip:[email protected];user=phone>;tag=ac493fe8-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-2b7d5ad-3fa2ea5
    To: <sip:7317;[email protected];user=phone>;tag=580~35abe322-3212-479c-8a2c-ab75ead590d5-21575914
    Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:12:41 GMT
    Call-ID: abef5b48-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-5d08551f-3fa2ea5
    CSeq: 1 INVITE
    Allow-Events: presence
    Reason: Q.850;cause=1
    Content-Length: 0
    CUCM ACK message:
    SIPTcp - wait_SdlReadRsp: Incoming SIP TCP message from 10.5.2.51 on port 46314 index 6 with 623 bytes:
    [1182,NET]
    ACK sip:[email protected] SIP/2.0
    Route: <sip:10.5.131.12;transport=tcp;lr;phase=terminating>
    Call-ID: abef5b48-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-5d08551f-3fa2ea5
    From: <sip:[email protected];user=phone>;tag=ac493fe8-1e01050a-13c4-55013-3fa2ea5-2b7d5ad-3fa2ea5
    To: <sip:7317;[email protected];user=phone>;tag=580~35abe322-3212-479c-8a2c-ab75ead590d5-21575914
    Via: SIP/2.0/TCP 10.5.2.51;branch=z9hG4bK138498682095974-AP;ft=3
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    Max-Forwards: 66
    Content-Length: 0
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    I know what I am asking is far from ideal but this is the position that I have been put in by circumstances.
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