Curious about apple loops

As I cruise around the apple forums and manuals, I'm curious to what makes a loop an "apple Loop" as compared to just a loop.
As I read further I'm pretty sure that I noticed somewhere that all loops created can become "apple loops". Is this true?
So, I can import a wav file in 16 bit, from any disc, ie: drums on demand, and convert that into an "apple loop".
I'm converting to GB from a pc based product and I'm wondering what I can still use.
I noticed that M audio has a bunch of cool sounding sample and loop libraries. Some are stated to be in "apple" format. Others were aiff and rex, can I use these and convert them?
Sorry for all the ?
One more........on a different subject
Should I use my podxt as a direct usb to usb into GB.... Or ........record direct to the line in from the podxt analog out? Thanks very much nyhatco

what makes a loop an "apple Loop"
When it's properly tagged with metadata describing its Key, Tempo, etc it becomes an Apple Loop.
loops [...] can become "apple loops"
Get Apple's Loop Utility
http://thehangtime.com/gb/gbfaq2.html#soundtracklooputility

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I'm wondering about using Apple loops in music. Is it ok to do so to make music for people to hear, without it being sold. And how do you get permission to use them in music to sell?

I'm wondering about using Apple loops in music. Is it ok to do so to make music for people to hear,like on soundcloud or other websites, without it being sold. And how do you get permission to use them in music to sell?

From the LOGIC STUDIO SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT :
C. Except as otherwise indicated, you may use the Apple and third party audio file content (including, but not limited to, the Apple Loops, built-insound files, samples and impulse responses) (collectively the “Audio Content”), contained in or otherwise included with the Apple Software, on aroyalty-free basis, to create your own original soundtracks for your film, video and audio projects. You may broadcast and/or distribute your ownsoundtracks that were created using the Audio Content, however, individual Apple loops, audio files, sound settings, samples and impulse responsesmay not be commercially or otherwise distributed on a standalone basis, nor may they be repackaged in whole or in part as audio samples, soundfiles, sound effects or music beds.
This means, you can use all Apple Loops in your music, they're royality-free.
Best,
DaCaptain

HT201496 Hai there. I am facing trouble with my garageband apple loops.i don't see apple loops in my browser since quite some time i don't know what has happened to it and how it happened . i just wanted to learn some of basic things about music.can you h

Hai there. i am having a trouble with the garage band apple loops to get into my macbook pro. . i had it some time back and i dont know where it has gone and how it get it back. is there anyone to help me to get the loops back into the browser . i will be grateful to you if some one can help me with it/ thanks.

First check, if you do not accidentally have hidden or filtered your loops:
Uncheck the "Filter for more relevant results" option in the Audio tab of the GarageBand Preferences.
And the drop down menu on top of the Loop Browser should be set to "Loops", not to some Jam Pack or other collection.
If you still don't see any loops, check if you have set your project to a special signature, like 9/8, for that no standard loops do exist.
Then check, if any loops actually are installed in your system Library: Depending on your GarageBand version you should find the standard loops in the Audio folder of your system Library (Application Support > GarageBand):
Your System Drive > Library > Audio > Apple Loops
If the Loops are installed, but GarageBand does not show them, you need to rebuild your Apple Loops Index: See the FAQ for how to do it:
Re-Index GarageBand's Loops
This requires two steps:
erase the old Apple Loops Index by deleting everything in
Your System Drive > Library > Audio > Apple Loops Index
and then rebuilding the Loops Index by dragging the folder containing all of your loops onto the Loop Browser in GarageBand.
If no Loops are installed in your Library, you will have to restore them from your Backup.
Regards
Léonie

Loop browser vs the loops in audio apple loops

My number is different in the loop browser. lets say
show all> i hit reset then all drums, the number is less than that that is what in the drum folder i have in the HD.
same for Guitar and others.
i.e. all the loops i have in the HD are not in the loop browser.
I have all prefs in Loop set to not filter and reset keywords.
is there a shortcut/proper method to show every loop i have in the HD showing in the loop browser.
I thank you all
and have a nice day making music.
glenn

Ht
an honor to hear from you
and i would hope you have 5 minutes to clarify or atleast add your thoughts here. I am puzzled by this.
I went ahead and bought thousands of loops from third party.
i have 2486 elect guitar loops.
and 349 acoustic guitar loops. filter is off
they are reindexed.
In the apple loops folder where i store all the loops, i have created folders for each instrument ( as close as i could associate them ).
i have the guitar electric folder ( 2486 loops ) acoustic (349 ) harp etc etc etc. If i type in names they show ( most seem to ) but one cannot memorize names of 10,000 loops. I cant!
so if i go into the lbrowser i am expecting to see in all guitars a number almost equal to about 2800. Now you say time signature will mismatch that. But you see there is a mismatch of about 600 guitar loops!? that doesnt make sense does it? they are residing elsewhere, where i do not know except ofcourse in my meticulous folder Guitar electric on my HD.
1. Reindexing makes sure that every loop in my HD is in the loop Browser isnt that the case. I dont remember if i dragged all of them over the browser or not.
2. It seems to me ( and see no other options here ) that if i want to be able to peruse all of my loops and have them accessible i have to have the lib>audio>apple loops>folders of loops open so that i can choose those that are not being brought up in the browser and as you say have time signatures that are different?
how do i then bring up those no shows in the browser if they are not showing up ( acc to you )due to signature problems because they might be usable if edited?
3. i could check off favorites couldnt I and then have maybe 2000 loops to chose from. Aint this a kick in the ***?
Im trying to organize as best i can what loops i have on the HD
so that i can see them exactly organized and neatly in the browser, but APPLE has made this very very difficult i think.
i appreciate your time thoughts and forgive me for insisting on an answer here which i may not get.

Some Apple Loops refuse to index when dropped onto the Loop Browser

I'm hoping somebody has a fix for this odd problem. Some of the Apple Loops which came with version 1.0.1 refuse to index via the loop browser.
First off, I had to re-install GarageBand 1.0.1 after an invalid library error message appeared after upgrading to Tiger. The re-install wasn't completed totally and it did the same thing on 2 attempts. The next error message was: Apple Loops are missing, or something to that effect. I had to install the Apple Loops found in HD->Library->Application Support->GarageBand by dropping them onto the GarageBand Loop Browser at the bottom of its window. It indexed them, they appeared, and I was happy.
Today, for some reason, I looked through the loops folder mentioned above and noticed about one third of the loops do not appear in the Loop Browser, naturally some really neat stuff is missing! So I decided to drag & drop these Apple loop files onto the browser individually. It says it's indexing them, althought the guitar icon in the dock jumps while doing so, but they never appear and don't show-up in the search box either. They can however be dropped onto the Timeline from the Finder and will play as a music file. The problem is that I cannot listen to them from the loop browser for easy selecting when arranging.
Is there any way to get these stubborn Apple files to appear & play in the Loop Browser? I was hoping they could be added via the Timeline to the Loop Browser, but have had no success. Also, I tried the Apple Loops Utility thinking maybe the appropriate tags were missing, but can't figure out what is missing, if anything.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Barb
iMac G5 20 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

The Loop Browser filters what it displays by only showing loops in the same Time Signature as the song you've created, and within 2 semitones of the Key your song is in.
You can change the latter by tuning off Keyword Browsing in GB's preferences.
--HangTime [Will Compute for Food] B-|>

HT200183 If I wanted to include apple loops in the assets of Logic project folders that are part of a tutorial available for download on a paid educational website would that be ok?

If I wanted to include apple loops in the assets of Logic project folders that are part of a song that follows a tutorial available for download on a paid educational website would that be ok? No one would be paying for the file itself that's part of the membership. I don't want to get into any copyright problems. I understand that they are royalty free and you can include them in your music no problem but the individual loops would be in the audio folder if I saved all the assets to the project file.
Also, would it be ok to include screen shots I take myself of apple programs in my downloadable content?
Just trying to figure out exactly how I should go about it to avoid any legal issues.

Hi
trainedmind wrote:
No one would be paying for the file itself that's part of the membership. I don't want to get into any copyright problems.
My gut reaction is that you may well run into © issues if you re-distribute the original AppleLoops.If your customers are paying for the training, they are also paying for the content you provide, so I feel that you would be re-selling the loops.
Given that anyone who has a copy of Logic would likely have installed all the loop content, there should be no need to distribute them with the project files. Alternatively, make your own loops.
CCT

I can't find converted apple loops in the loop browser within Logic pro 7

Hello There.
I've cereated some apple loops with the apple loops utility. unfortunately I am unable to find them in the loop browser within Logic pro 7.2.1.
I've scaned them using the project manager " so Logic knows about them"
but still didn't reflect in the loop browser.
Is this the normal behavior or what am I doing wrong.
I hope I am doing something wrong, as to me the main feature of the loop browser is to be able to audition the loops quckly at the song tempo.
Thanks a lot in advance
Cheers
P.S searched in the Forum but the answers arn't very clear
Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 1.67 Mhz 2gig Ram

Just drop them on the Loop Browser and the rest should be taken care of.

Apple Loops from Regions problem...

Greetings,
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      I've read some similar threads, but nothing that answers these issues..
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       to the 'Region' drop down menu and select the first option, 'Add to apple loops library'...
     I came across this process naturally and it seemed to work fine, but then some of the loops created
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        For example if I have a beat that starts at 1., but I have the recently added 'problem' loop at 4.,
          this 'problem' loop will play back from 1 as well, no matter if it's at 4, or 24...
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Ouch.... That's a real bummer.
I would recommend trying the "re-conversion" with just a few loops and seeing how it works for you. I've had to do this before as well. I had a library from L7 that I had converted using ALU inside L8's arrange window. For some reason, the loops that I had never used in that project that I had converted were not converted after I deleted the project that I used them in... make sense? not to me either....
The whole Apple Loop Utility is awesomely useful sometimes and buggy to the point of frustration at others....
Also, is there any consistent pattern to the "off-timeiness" of the loops? (i.e: only midi loops, only audio loops, only slows down, only speeds up, "choppy", etc...)

Can automator turn thousands of samples into Apple Loops? (VSL rep/runs)

Hello everyone,
First off, I'm familiar with how to build my own apple loops and find them to be VERY useful, especially in the application I'm about to describe. However, I find it quite tedious to build them manually, especially when dealing with thousands of samples. Thus I'm looking for the best/easist way to create apple loops, hopefully using Tigers "automator."
Heres my situation: I use/love VSL sample libs, which contain many articulations/phrases, but some of these are "tempo specific" such as the numerous instrument runs, repetition files, glissandos, crescendos, etc, and when doing a film score I cannot let tempo specific files dictate the tempo of the piece (the film does that). Thus I've started taking some of the VSL samples (especially the repetition and runs) and turning them into apple loops, which conform to the tempo of the piece. Within reason, the results are WONDERFUL allow me to continue to use these very realistic phrases at almost any tempo!
However, I've grown tired of manually converting these files to apple loops, and thus have only converted a handful of these phrases into apple loops. Whats worse is when I'm forced to stop the creative process to turn a phrase into an apple loop only to find that after all that time creating the loop, it doesnt work!
Is it possible to use Tigers automator to automatically convert .wav files into apple loops? This would be a great time saver, and would possibly allow for turning the thousands of samples into apple loops. Anyone currently doing this type of thing? Is it worth it in the end?
Thanks in advance for any help/tips you can provide.

Hi Jonathan,
You can use Logic to create AIFFs of these files very quickly.
Then, open them in ALU.
Select all files.
Change 1 field.
Save.
You now have Apple Loops -- they will have a few few things automatically inserted such as guessed tempi -- they will almost always be set to 4/4 to the tempo closest to 120(?)... but they will load and many will load usably for your needs.
Now, I don't know exactly what you are facing with this concept but it sounds like a very big job and this will still leave much time hand tuning. If this is true, I recommend you have a look at Accelerando:
http://www.eigentoneresearch.com/Accelerando.html
Accelerando contains several tools which will substantially decrease the tedium - and yes, it does use Automator. It works directly with Logic Pro, Apple Loops Utility - and more. Ultimately, you may be able to create workflows which handle this task with 1 gesture per Apple Loop - although a large library of workflows would be required to accomplish this to most users expectations so 2 or more gestures is more likely. of course, you can try to set up a more intelligent scheme if, say, the files can be filtered by an attribute such as their name.
J
Per Apple's TOU, I am required to state my affiliation with Eigentone Research.
I Developed Accelerando

New Apple Loop Created at Wrong BPM?

Hi,
I've beat mapped an audio region, which adjusted the project tempo to about 122.5 BPM, which is the correct value.
I've trimmed the region to an even number of bars, and exported it as an Apple Loop as I have always done in the past.
However, when I go to open it up in the media browser, it says the BPM is 95, which is wrong. When I make it follow the tempo of another project which is also around 122.5, it makes it way too fast (it over-compensates since it thinks the loop is at 95BPM). I've tried it in the Apple Loops utility, and the same thing happens.
Any help is very much appreciated!

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I have imported an MP3 into Logic Pro 8, which converts it to an AIFF file, and am trying to configure the project to sync to that tracks tempo. From what I understand, I do this by opening it in the ALU and having it add tempo information to the file.
My problem is that when I open the file in the ALU, and I have version 2.0.1, literally almost NOTHING works. I can hit the play/stop/jump to start buttons and they work. However, the volume control does nothing. Likewise, the Tempo slider as well as the transpose dropdown don't do anything.
On the Transients tab, the Transient Division dropdown and Sensitivity slider are grayed out. Since I've never used this tool before, I would assume that this is how I get the utility to detect the beats in the song. The waveform view just shows the song waveform, with no markers as it does if I open an Apple Loop.
If I switch to the Tags tab, ever single checkbox is grayed out. Finally, if I go to the file menu, all Save options are grayed out.
My first thought, is of course, that I'm just an idiot and that I don't know what I'm doing. However, in searching the forum, I found this post from a year ago where someone is complaining about what seems to be the exact same problem, and they did not receive a single response.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8516386&#8516386
Any ideas on either how to get ALU to work or to get my project to sync to the MP3 without requiring the ALU?
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In case you are importing a whole track you won't get the results you are expecting with ALU....
Under *File Type* in the Tags tab select Looping so that the Transients Division and the rest of the settings be active.
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A

Homemade Apple Loops (w/Loops Utility) won't show up in Loop Browser

I just finished making a whole batch of homemade Apple Loops. Through Logic I opened up each audio file in the Apple Loops Utility, marked its tempo, marked "Looped" and then did the transients window to make sure it sounded good, then did "Save" or "Save All" from the Apple Loops Utility task tray.
I then dumped that folder full of custom loops into my loop browser for catalog'ing, but for some reason only about 10 of them show up when I click "All" to see all the loops in that folder.
So I re-opened the entire batch in Apple Loops Utility and made tiny changes to each loop's transients, just enough to trigger the dot next to the loop that means "you need to save these changes" - and I resaved the entire batch.
Tried the add-to-loop-browser process again, and again, only those initial 10 loops showed up in the browser again. The remaining 190 won't pop up.
I can't figure out what's missing or what I did wrong. Any ideas?
Kirby

FIXED!
If you run into this same problem:
In order for your homemade loops to show up in Logic's Loop Browser, when in the Apple Loops Utility you need to select at least one "Descriptor" - if you don't, the loop won't appear in the browser. Even if you don't need a Descriptor, just batch-select all of your loops in the tray and then pick 1 Descriptor, resave, and re-drop into Apple's Loop Browser.
Kirby

Creating Apple loops within the arrange window

I have tried this before and had the same result again and again.
I have a stereo recording of a drum kit at 120 bpm which I have chopped to a 2 bar cycle and want to turn it into an apple loop. to fit it into the song I am working on which is at 100 bpm.
I select "add to apple loops library" from the Region drop down menu in the arrange window. the apple loops genre selection window opens which adds it to the apple loops browser. easy!
But when I drop the loop back into the arrange window onto an Audio track within the same song which is 100bpm, it stays at the original tempo and doesn't snap to the bar. but still loops stretches and does what an apple loop should do but at the wrong tempo. what is that all about?

with an extra note to my comment above
if you've dropped the loop from the apple loop browser to the arrange window you then have to open it again in apple loop utility to sort it out by selecting "open in apple utility" from the Audio drop down menu on the arrange window which gives you a chance to edit it properly and now I have a decent loop. but then I have to save it again in the initial menu "add to apple loops" which I have to reclassify it again I thought it'd be a good idea to actually get rid of the first menu choice "add to apple loops" window and just have a window within logic which uses the same engine as apple loops utility and uses the same audio channel (the Last enabled channel in the Environment to Audition the loop because now when Apple loop utility opens the core Audio gets confused and comes out of my comuter speaker and then after a few cycles comes out of the Interface. I think there are too many "menu this", "loop utility that's" going on in logic. I do hope Logic 8 is going to trim away all the excess Lard which Logic has gained since mac took it off Emagic.

Apple loops in .AIFF ?

Hi !
Ok, me and my friend, we were having fun, jammin with logic pro 8 , and then suprisingly, I realized that I couldn't edite destructively apple loops. I learned that it was because of the .caf extention, and that compressed audio file cannot be edited destructively, then that I have to bounce then, convert them in .wav or aiff, etc ...
But the subject of this topic is something else :
My friend actually could edit the apple loops without convert them.
So we just checked his apple loops folder (in is HD, not his user home), and we were really suprised to find all the apple loops in ... .AIFF format !
so our question is : how do you think it happend ? because my friend has no idea how come his apple loops are in .aiff
Is it normal ?
is there a precess to do that.
It seems that it's more convenient to have the apple loops in .aiff
Is there any problem that we didn't see yet about that ?
thanks guys

Logic 7 and Garageband apple loops, prior to iLife 08, all used .aif files. so most likely your friend already had those jam packs installed before upgrading to Logic 8

Importing apple loops -why do some in a folder work and some dont?

im trying to drag and drop all my sample cds i have on my external drives into the apple loop browser in logic, some are folders in folders in folders as most cds are..why is it that when i drag the whole sample cd folder and drag it in that quite often just a few of the loops are installed in the window?..ive even tried dragging single files ,,they just seem to disapear although if i try to re-drag folders or files, im told they are already there?..i have some that have worked fine others dont even appear in the menu even tho if i try again it says they are there?..im keen to use the browser for audiotning sounds even if theyre not tagged ..anyone?..this is sooooo frustrating..many thanks in advance.,..T

you can search for this problem using google to see if any solutions work for you. but i found this post by urami (who is very knowledgeable):
It has nothing to do with font name itself. Also, by the way, font being a system component, can't be easily renamed in NotePad. You will need dedicated font editing tool like Macromedia's Fontographer. Anyway, Flash simply does not support some fonts and font's families. Unlike Other tools you brought up, Flash is vector based and not catered to handle all kind of fonts, but specific groups only. In fact if you deal with more applications, you will realize that it's a common issue. CorelDraw supports literally any font, half of which won't never shop up in Photoshop, then these that show up in photoshop, half of it won't show up in Flash, and so on. You just can't use all the fonts and it won't matter whatever you change their names. It's all about the font and its outlines and the way it is made. -- Best Regards Urami -- "Never play Leap-Frog with a Unicorn." If you want to mail me - DO NOT LAUGH AT MY ADDRESS

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