Custom camera profiles, created inside canon camera

I'd like to ask one question. When I have my own user defined camera profiles, that I created inside my canon camera, how can I preserve or transfer those into the Lighroom?

PS - I wasn't being a smartypants in my previous post, nor this one:
Here is the "medium" answer:
No matter how you slice it, the best you'll be able to do is translate (custom) in-camera profile to a self-created Lr camera calibration profile (and/or other Lr settings), which you can create using Adobe's free DNG Profile Editor. So if you're serious about doing it, that would be step 1 feasibility study...
If it works well enough, you can use ExifMeta (plugin) in conjunction with CollectionPreseter (or OttomanicImporter) to auto-select your Lr profile (and/or other Lr settings in the form of a preset) based on profile in camera (as read in exif metadata)..
Rob

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