Custom re-install of Tiger

I have default installed Tiger on my iBook, although I have since used the Monolingual programme to free up space taken by additional languages.
How much space would I save by doing a 'custom' re-instal with the intent of stripping as much as possible out (eg drivers etc)?
Is this straight forward? What would I need to re-install in addition? All my third party applications?
I have no problems other than that I am running short of hardrive space.
I have an external firewire drive with a bootable clone of my drive (using Super Duper) as backup.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

Dunstan, there's no need to do a re-install to get rid of your unwanted printer drivers. Printer drivers are in the HD/Library/Printers folder. You can safely delete any named drivers that you don't have a printer for. For example, if you have a Canon, you can remove Epson, Lexmark, Hewlett Packard & Brother drivers. Epson alone takes up close to 1gb. You can even remove specific drivers from within the manufacturer's folder. For example, if you have an Epson C86 you can safely trash any other specific drivers in the Epson folder like C46, C66 etc. If, at a later date, you buy a printer whose driver you removed they can be added from your install disk, the disk that comes with the printer or downloaded.
(Sorry if any of that is too simplistic, it's a copy/paste from my standard reply to "How do I free up disk space" type questions).
The rest of the standard reply goes like this:
"For example, on my iBook, I have removed GarageBand from Applications and its Loops from HD/Library/Application Support or HD/Library/Audio. As my iBook only has a combo drive and I'm not into video editing anyway I have trashed iDVD & iMovie. (Not DVD player). I have also trashed preloaded games and World Book, and its associated files, again in Application Support.
Language support files can be removed using Monolingual. Do not remove any English language files, though. (Already dealt with.)
A word of warning: More cautious heads than mine advise against messing in the HD/Library, but if you stick to the examples above, i.e. GarageBand loops, World Book and printer drivers you will be OK.
Certainly, I have had no problems with my system after removing those examples.
Check, too, in your music folder. It is possible that you have, say, 'xyz song' in the first level of your Music folder and the same song in Music/iTunes/iTunes Library. If you are sure that you do have 'xyz song' in iTunes, it is safe to delete from 'Music'. The same principle can apply to your Pictures folder and iPhoto Library, but staying with iTunes for a moment, with iTunes open select Edit in the menu bar, then 'Show duplicate songs'. You can trash duplicates if you are sure that they are true duplicates, i.e. exact name, artist and file size.
Some excellent advice has been posted by ~JB~, with corresponding words of caution.
Dr Smoke has some advice here too.
Last but by no means least, when you have finished dumping your unwanted stuff in the trash, don't forget to empty it. You haven't regained the space until you do "
Have fun!
Adrian

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Hello, before I start I should mention that I have been reading about various tools and looking at wiki articles. But I have had some trouble getting started.
What I would like is an install cd that installs the packages I choose. I'd like this to be either automatic, or allow me to select the packages I want (which are presumably on the cd), just like in the normal way of installing arch perhaps, maybe.
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darkbeanies wrote:
Yeah, I like xfce, but I'd give her the excellent chakra if I was going to give her a ready made thing, which I might do if things go wrong...
But that isn't what I'm trying to do. I want to learn how to build an install disc, too. It takes me a long time to get arch up and running. I would like to know how to automate it so that I end up with my own personal humble distribution.
I realize there are many alternatives to doing what I am trying to do. But there are a hundred reasons I can think of why a custom archlinux install cd made by me that goes "do you want to install y/n" and then you press y and it formats the disk, shoves the stuff on and then it works would be the best option.
This assumes, of course, that my mum can plug in the computer, monitor, mouse, keyboard and speakers, insert the disc and press y, all of which are long shots.
Anyway, I'm making some progress with larch now. I can roughly see how it's going to work, it's pretty straightforward, so it would seem.
Thanks!
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My G4 came with Jaguar. OS 9 was part of the complete installation, that you could install or choose not to install. My computer has been having a lot of issues lately and I think that a clean install would be a good idea, especially, since I used an upgrade to install Panther and then installed Tiger on top of Panther. I want to install classic and Tiger. How do I do this properly? Thanks

I plan to back up my personal files and any
downloaded software I have.
Amazing that. You've told us that numerous times, but
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explain WHAT you're using for the backup and
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1. Update Center for Office: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/office/ee748587.aspx
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Ichat starts to open, lingers a second, then 'unexpectedly' quits. I'm in Snow Leopard 10.6.8. I can't find the ichat plist in hte library, even though I've custom re-installed (even the hard way) and downloaded the latest upgrade. Que pasa?

ichat starts to open, lingers a second, then 'unexpectedly' quits. I'm in Snow Leopard 10.6.8. I can't find the ichat plist in the library, even though I've custom re-installed (even the hard way) and downloaded the latest upgrade. Que pasa?

crash report, not a reply:
Process:         iChat [611]
Path:            /Applications/iChat.app/Contents/MacOS/iChat
Identifier:      com.apple.iChat
Version:         5.0.3 (745)
Build Info:      iChat-7450300~8
Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [101]
Date/Time:       2011-12-17 19:23:00.671 -0500
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version: 6
Interval Since Last Report:          387052 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           18
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 65 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   18
Anonymous UUID:                      D59E7670-AAAB-498C-AEBF-93B692A2DE09
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000004
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ...thesis.MacinTalkSynthesizer          0x00000001159e418d MEOWReader::MEOWReader(int, void const*, char) + 35
1   ...thesis.MacinTalkSynthesizer          0x00000001159b4246 SpeechChannelManager::UseVoice(VoiceSpec*, __CFBundle*) + 430
2   ...thesis.MacinTalkSynthesizer          0x00000001159daf14 SEUseVoice + 71
3   ....speech.synthesis.framework          0x00007fff85d42d4a NewSpeechChannel + 617
4   com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff86ebee35 -[NSSpeechSynthesizerVars setSpeechChannelWithVoiceCreator:voiceID:] + 125
5   com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff86ebc56d -[NSSpeechSynthesizerVars setSpeechChannelWithVoiceIdentifier:] + 89
6   com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff86ebce7c -[NSSpeechSynthesizer initWithVoice:] + 336
7   com.apple.iChat                         0x000000010009da09 0x100000000 + 645641
8   com.apple.iChat                         0x000000010001b3ae 0x100000000 + 111534
9   com.apple.IMCore                        0x00007fff865fa14c _IMPersonStatusIsOnline + 34989
10 com.apple.IMCore                        0x00007fff865f9fee _IMPersonStatusIsOnline + 34639
11 com.apple.IMCore                        0x00007fff865f1b78 _IMPersonStatusIsOnline + 729
12 com.apple.iChat                         0x00000001000066ad 0x100000000 + 26285
13 com.apple.iChat                         0x000000010001ac60 0x100000000 + 109664
14 com.apple.IMCore                        0x00007fff865ecdaa _IMPersonStatusFromFZPersonStatus + 1525
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8512493c __invoking___ + 140
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8512480d -[NSInvocation invoke] + 141
17 com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff851406e1 -[NSInvocation invokeWithTarget:] + 49
18 com.apple.iChat.IMUtils                 0x00007fff859d82f7 -[IMLocalObject _handleInvocation:] + 182
19 com.apple.iChat.IMUtils                 0x00007fff859d7e6f _IMRDeliverComponentArray + 138
20 com.apple.iChat.IMUtils                 0x00007fff859d7dba _XDeliverComponentArray + 119
21 com.apple.iChat.IMUtils                 0x00007fff859d7d23 IMRemoteObjectsMIG_server + 52
22 com.apple.iChat.IMUtils                 0x00007fff859d7c55 _IMRServerPortCallback + 120
23 com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8511365e __CFMachPortPerform + 366
24 com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff850eb6b1 __CFRunLoopRun + 5201
25 com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff850e9d8f CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 575
26 com.apple.HIToolbox                     0x00007fff87b757ee RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 333
27 com.apple.HIToolbox                     0x00007fff87b755f3 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 310
28 com.apple.HIToolbox                     0x00007fff87b754ac BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 59
29 com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff869f2eb2 _DPSNextEvent + 708
30 com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff869f2801 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 155
31 com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff869b868f -[NSApplication run] + 395
32 com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff869b13b0 NSApplicationMain + 364
33 com.apple.iChat                         0x0000000100002da0 0x100000000 + 11680
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Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x00000001010f2200 rbx: 0x00000001004c6670 rcx: 0x0000000000000000 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x00000001010f2200 rsi: 0x0000000000000000 rbp: 0x00007fff5fbfbf90 rsp: 0x00007fff5fbfbf60
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IPhone not in iTunes after Re-install of Tiger

I had to dump Leopard because it was causing all kinds of problems on my Mac Pro. I'm starting all over with a new install of Tiger 10.4.10. You cannot believe how angry I am at Apple over this force to backtrack to Tiger.
BTAIM, I'm now re-registering all of my applications and assumed my iPhone would be recognized by iTunes when I plugged it in to the dock. Its not, naturally, so now how do I get it to show up so I can add music, movies, etc.
Again, you cannot believe how angry I am with Apple over the poor quality of Leopard.

Actually I had to reinstall iTunes and the iPhone is now recognized. I've lost everything associated with it - music, videos, contacts, notes, etc., but I didn't have to reactivate it. Account user information is probably held on the AT&T server but my iPhone personal information (pix, contacts) are still on the iPhone but I dare not turn on the syncing of individual tabs until I can get that information off the iPhone and back into iTunes.
Since the reinstall of Tiger I've had no problems with the OS at all. The upgrade to Leopard cost me an awful lot of valuable data - data I was unable to get off the main hard drive and save without the system freezing and having to start over each time. Everything from the Documents, pictures, movies, music folders were erased but the applications and their settings are all there. What aren't there are the registration codes and each time I run a third party applications I'm asked to insert those codes and register before the app can be used. Most I have in email (retained on the server) but many early or older registrations are lost and I'm forced to re-buy.
That's the price you pay for believing in Apple's ridiculous claims that their new OS is ready for prime time. I'll wait until it is 10.5.9 before I give it another try, if I do at all.

Installing OS tiger vs jaguar

I have a bit of an odd question. My iBook G3 dual usb had a massive hard drive failure. I am needing a new hard drive. Once it's installed, is there a reason I can't install OS Tiger on it with a clean retail version? This OS says it requires a DVD to install, as does Panther, and my iBook only has a cd drive in it. If I can't install Tiger, I will need a copy of Jaguar.
If Jaguar is the OS to install, anyone know where I might find one?

Hi Again PFMbyNight!
I also responded in your Other Thread.
My reply is mostly repetitious of the great advice already posted here, but you may find some additional info in My Post.
Good Luck!
EDIT: How did you install Tiger, without the Install DVD?
ali b

Installing 2 Tiger Servers

Hi,
I'm planning to install two Tiger Servers. Each one will have it's one public and static IP address. Almost all accesses (excepted from admins) will come from Internet. The DNS will be provided by DynDNS and I suppose it sould be possible to balance request between the two servers ?
Now, assuming this is possible I would like both servers to provide same services but I don't really understand how to set up the two servers. I would like to set up a "primary" one and the second would be updated automatically.
Is this possible ?
Thanks for any information

Hi, thanks for your answer,
What services are you planning on running?
Web, Mail, AFP/FTP/SMB will probably replaced by WebDAV not sure by now.
As most users will come from Internet, the DNS will be here for the local servers and administration computers. DNS will also be used with users connecting through VPN (I plan to install the NetGear FVX 538 to manage VPN connexions).
I thought first that it would be doable to have two servers with same services but it appears clearly now that mails and users folders cannot be easily replicated so... I found a PowerMac G4 1 Ghz and I will use it to host mails and users folders (for AFP, SMB FTP or WebDAV). This will allow me to install a RAID card and to provide a more secure storage for data in the futur.
DNS load balancing is crude, but will do the job -
generally alternate requests for name resolution will
return each address. There's no concept of failover,
though - if one of your servers is down then 50% of
your users are going to be disappointed.
OK, that's an interesting remark. I will investigate that with DynDNS to see exactly how they do provide what they call "Round Robin"
I'm also not sure how DynDNS works with multiple IP
addresses reporting to be the same DynDNS client. You
may need to check with them on that issue.
Yes, I will see that with them. Thanks.
As for how to keep the servers in sync, that depends
on what you're running. If you're service static
content (e.g. standard web pages) then you'll need to
implement some kind of file synchronization process
(either automatic or manual) so that changes made to
one machine are automatically copied to the other.
This will typically involve some kind of latency -
for example if you set an automatic 5-minute
replication schedule, then the second machine could
be as much as 4:59 minutes behind the main server.
You will need to determine the trade-off between
shorter intervals vs. extra overhead of checking when
there are no changes.
From a Apache point of view I would be very surprised if there isn't any way to keep two servers in sync. There is so many things available into Apache .
In anyway, contents should not change so frequently and then it should be enough easy to use a sync application to replicate changes to the second server. I will investigate that later too.
The other option for web traffic would be a database
solution - web content is stored in the database and
each web server pulls data from the database to build
pages on the fly. The advantage is that all web
servers are automatically in synch, the downside is
that you need a database server which becomes your
single point of failure - unless you have two
database servers that replicate between them, and so
it goes on
Yes, I thought of that too but now that I will have a third computer sharing several disk I will see if it's doable to put all Web pages there too.
If it's not web traffic you're trying to sync you
need to give more information as to what it is since
other protocols have different limits and options
(for example DNS has a built-in master-slave system
to replicate DNS changes to secondary DNS servers.
The DNS was not my first interrogation. The mail server is what really make me think very loud. I will have the G4 in a few days and will start making all my tests to see if it's enough responsive to put the mail db and all mail user s accounts on a shared volume. As my two lines will not be very fast in my beginning it should be fast enough to start with this setup.
If you have any comments they are welcome as I still investigate a lot of things and ways to achieve my plans.
Thanks again.

Install failure: Tiger & Panther & Jaguar

I have 400 MHz Power Book with 384 MB of memory & a 10GB drive. (CPU Type: PowerPC 750(42.2)) It was running under OSX 10.3.9 successfully when it started to slow up terribly. So I decided to clean it out and try to upgrade to Tiger. Backed-up the hard drive and did an erase-&-install of Tiger. I'd get an "Installation was unsuccessful. Please re-install message." And again. And again. So I tried to erase-&-install Panther. Same message. Tried one or twice again, this time not erasing, but accepting the default "Upgrade" option. Finally it worked, it seemed. Tried to update to 10.3.9. Disk image failed to open, so I opened it on my desktop machine and network-transferred the update install file to the laptop to install. That seemed to work, but some apps refused to open; iTunes, Mail, . . . Tried to install Jaguar; same failure message. Kept trying till it seemed to succeed. Update to 10.2.8 failed. . . . Tried various other things, including DiskWarrior, TechTool, AppleJack, PowerBook hardware test disk. No problems found.
I've currently got it running under 10.3. (There are a bunch of files and folders with (Mac OS 9) as part of their names. These, plus an AppleJack dmg and a ComboUpdate 10.3.9 --all under the root directory-- seem to be left over from an earlier install, even through at least one erase-&-install.)
Oh, yes. The battery has been dead for a long time. If that matters.
Any good ideas, anyone?

If you do an Erase and Install then there cannot be anything "leftover" from a previous installation.
Is this a Pismo or later model or a Lombard? Lombard's cannot run Tiger. Tiger requires a computer with built-in Firewire and USB ports.
I suggest you may want to do an extended hard drive format:
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Boot from your OS X Installer Disk. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.)
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process will take 30 minutes to an hour or more depending upon the drive size.
After formatting has completed quit DU and return to the installer. Proceed with the OS X installation.
A dead battery should not be a problem as long as you have the AC adapter connected for power. However, none of the settings normally preserved in PRAM will be saved whenever AC power is removed or the computer is shut down. This could lead to odd behavior because the date and time, display information, selected boot volume, etc. are stored in PRAM.

Can't do a clean install of Tiger - receive error message

I am running Tiger 10.4.11. I've had some system quirks recently, so I wanted to do a clean install of Tiger using the install disk. But when I insert the install disk and click on the installer, I get an error message that says "Mac OS X 10.4 can't be installed on this machine. Please consult the documentation for the list of supported Macintosh computers." Any ideas what is going on here?? Any help appreciated.
Thank you,
Bob

It turns out I had the Tiger disk from my old Powerbook, and not the Tiger disk from my Macbook. That solves that question.
However, it still won't let me do a clean reinstall where my data is preserved - it said it had to reformat the disk which would erase all the data.

Clean install of Tiger on new HD. Clone? or what....

is the best thing to do. I have just bought a spiffing new Hitachi 7200 HD for my PB and am torn between creating a clone using Drive Genius and copying it back or should I just copy my Home folder to the clean instalation of Tiger. Of course I would need to reinstall all my progs.
If some can point me in the right direction I would be gratefull.
I have also bought a HD enclosure USB 2 for the old 5400 original drive.

I hope you are aware that you cannot boot the computer with a USB drive. If you planned to clone to the USB drive, then boot from it, you will not be able to do so. USB drives cannot boot OS X. You will need a Firewire drive instead. Best swap that USB case for a Firewire case.
If I were you I would clone your existing system to an external Firewire drive. I would then boot from the Firewire drive and upgrade to Tiger. If all works well and you have no problems arise, then you can decide whether to install Tiger cleanly on the internal hard drive or to clone back from the external drive.
If you choose the above then before creating the initial clone you must do the following:
Boot from your OS X Installer. Be sure to use the installer for the version of OS X you have installed. After the installer loads select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (or Utilities menu if using Tiger.) After DU loads select your OS X volume from the list on the left, click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now shutdown the computer for a couple of minutes and then restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (3.0.3 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.0.6 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Do not clone unless your hard drive is verified as OK.
Next prep the new external hard drive as follows:
1. Open Disk Utility in the Utilities folder of your Applications folder.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled, if supported.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process will take 30 minutes to an hour or more depending upon the drive size.
Last, perform the clone using Disk Utility:
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder unless it's already open.
2. Select the startup volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
4. Drag the startup volume to the Source entry field.
5. Select the backup volume from the leftside list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Test the clone by opening Startup Disk and setting the external drive as the startup disk. Click on Restart.

Installing over Tiger

So, I've been told you can install Snow Leopard onto a desktop with Mac OS X 10.4.11 on it - is this true? I don't want to buy it just to find out I need to buy Leopard discs too.

slacker x3 wrote:
So, I've been told you can install Snow Leopard onto a desktop with Mac OS X 10.4.11 on it - is this true? I don't want to buy it just to find out I need to >buy Leopard discs too.
As others say, yes, provided that your computer meets the [requirements of Snow Leopard (SL)|http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html]. Many believe that buying the box set is not necessary unless your want iLife and iWork. In other words, many believe that all you need is the $29 Snow upgrade disk. This disk is a full install disk and does not require that Leopard be installed.
Here is some info on moving from Tiger to SL. [This thread describes a successful upgrade install from Tiger to Sno.|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2185421&tstart=125] I recommend that you use the upgrade method if your Tiger install is a very good one. Otherwise, I would do an erase and install. The backup process I would use in either case is described below.
I would not upgrade to SL unless I had an external drive with a bootable clone of my internal-drive boot volume on it. I think that there is enough risk upgrading to SL that such conservatism is warranted. I would not use time machine for an installation backup; I don't trust it enough. If you do not like SL, then you can restore your internal using the clone. In doing an upgrade install, the clone is your data backup and fail-safe device. You can clone with Disk Utility, SuperDuper, or Carbon Copy Cloner. If you do an erase and install, then the clone also is your migration medium.
An upgrade install is performed by installing over your existing installation from the desktop or having started from your SL DVD. Doing so requires you to have a GUID partition. To proceed, start the installer, choose your language, start Disk Utility, make sure your partition is GUID, quit disk utility if it is and continue your installation. All your data, users settings, and apps will be present after your upgrade, except that incompatible programs will be archived in the Incompatible Software folder. It the partition is not GUID, then you will have to do an erase and install.
If you do an erase and install, then make sure your partition is GUID as described above. After you install, then you will be able to use set up assistant to migrate you data, apps, users, and settings to your new SL install. Also, if you have to make your partition GUID, then your drive will automatically be erased Mac extended (journaled). Finally, post back if you choose to do an erase and install. I have more info to provide.
You probably will want to install at least two of the optional install items on your Sno DVD, Rosetta and QT7. You can install either from the Optional Install Items folder on your on SL install DVD.
Leave your Ethernet cable, if any, in place when installing, but unplug all peripherals except those needed to install.

Help!! accidentally install OSX Tiger into my backup harddisk!!

Help! accidentally install OSX Tiger into my backup harddisk!!
i lost all my backup files, work, my life! i have 2 HDD and one is suppose to be installed onto and the other one is my backup hdd..
what happened is i selected onto the wrong hard-disk...
is there anything i can do to recover back files that i installed over osx?
any suggestion much appreciated

Hi Ma'e, Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Installing OS X should not overwrite your files unless you chose "erase and install". If you chose "Archive and install" look for a folder on the top level of your hard drive called "Previous System".
If you did an "erase and install", If there is any chance of recovery at all your best bet is Prosoft Data Rescue. There is a free trial to see if it can recover what you need. But don't do another process on that drive until you've downloaded and run it. Also, a service that has been recommended but I cannot personally endorse is DriveSavers.
-mj
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