Customer 57f4 challan capture
Hi all!
We are doing a mere job wok. Customer is sending raw materials with delivery challan and 57f4 challan. We are processing the raw material and sending the finished material to the customer. I am receiving the raw material by 561 or also i can use 501 mvt type. I can enter the customer DC number in the TEXT field.
But how to capture the 57f4 challan in SAP. Since we have to do ageing analysis to send it within 180 days.. How to do this?
Thanks in advance,
Raj.
hi
1. Define your customer materials (both component and finished product) as non valuated material, because these materials not effecting the our inventory.
2. create Bom for finished product.
3. Create sales order for service charges with reference to your customer PO.
4. Receive the component from your customer through 501 E (with out po sales order specific).
5. Create Production order with reference to sales order through MRP or manual.
6. confirm the production order and receive the
finished product.
7. Delivery to customer as in normal sales process.
8. Then create performa invoice or billing to your customer.
Please maintain the customer excise challanas manually or you can develop z development for tracking purpose
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/V5600/BBLibrary/HTML/150_EN_IN.htm
regards
kunal
award if helpful
Edited by: kunal ingale on Sep 13, 2008 2:09 PM
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I don't get you....
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