Customer Hierarchy in COPA

I am a newbie and had a question for you gurus. When I am loooking at a profitab document I am noticing the CustHier fields are blank. Where is the customer hierarchy in COPA setup and how does it relate back to the profitab document?

Hi,
Refer to the table CE4XXXX, where XXXX = your Operatinc Concern Id.
The characteristics are stored in the data division of the table CE4XXXX for Operating Concern XXXX.
Other COPA tables are :
CE1XXXX - Line Items (Actual Postings)
CE2XXXX - Line Items (Plan Posting)
CE3XXXX - Summary Table
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Chirag

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Edited by: David Steele on Apr 15, 2008 1:57 PM

Hello,
I have a similar requirement, although we are building the hierarchies directly in CRM (as we are with BP's in general), and I am using hierarchy category 01 - PRICING.
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