Cycle recording and auto punch

Hi
I am just wondering if it's possible to use Cycle Recording and Auto Punch together? It doesn't seem to work for me. Has anyone else been able to do this? I would like to be able to cycle through a section of, say 8 bars, and punch in and out at, say bars 3 to 6.
Michael

Hi Thanks for that
Another question... when I record several takes, the original track is at the bottom of the group of takes and take 1 is above that. Take 2 is above that. Earlier today I was workling with takes and they were listed in the other order. Is there somewhere I can adjust the order in which takes are displayed?
Thanks
Mick

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Cycle Record Question

- Short-story - basically I want to use the least amount of button presses during the recording process...
Typical scenario ...
Let's say I have cycle record from bars 1 through bar 4.
- Destructive editing is on
- after recording 4 bars - I decide I want to simply replace bar 3 only.
- if the in and out punch in record was set to bars 3 and 4 then when I go in on bar the three - *it also erases bar 4* ouch - which maybe I wanted to keep...
- is there a way - without resetting the punch in and out to only bar 3 - to not erased bar 4 also...?
- so I know that I could take out the destructive recording - and then manually erase the part I don't like - and then going to record... but that is also a lot of "button pressing"
- it seems as though cycle recording mixed with punch in and punch out could be easier ... maybe there is something I do not understand... any ideas?

Just to add my two cents worth - I use Autodrop all the time and it is an incredibly useful tool for re-recording very precise bits of of midi or audio.
If you are trashing bar 4 of your cycle record when you only mean to replace bar 3 then I am sure that is because the left and right auto drop locators are not set accurately.
Here is my basic methodology for using auto drop:
1 - set up a musically coherent Cycle with key commands " Set left locator" and "set right locator" ie for or 8 bars. ( Very important that you have available a key command that snaps the SPL exactly to the bar).
2 - set up within the broader Cycle and 'inner' recording zone using key commands "Set Left Auto drop" and "Set right auto drop" you can then cycle record to your heart's content in the zone that you really need to replace without messing up anything else.
Also if you choose a musically sensible 'macro cycle" then you have time to think and breath before the sequencer reaches the point that you want to actually record in.
Once you become familiar with this it takes literally seconds to re-record very precise bits of your arrangement

Problem with cycle recording

Greetings, folks. I've run into what I think is an odd problem in cycle recording in an audio track. What I wanted to do was to automatically record multiple takes of a guitar solo. Consulting the manual and both the LP7 and Advanced LP7 guides and set up what I thought was the proper configuration for doing that: under File > Song settings > Recording, I checked the "Auto mute" and "Auto Create Tracks in Cycle Record" checkboxes, I defined a cycle region, I defined a shorter autodrop zone within that cycle region, armed the track, then hit record. I thought that Logic would then create a new track with each cycle pass while I was playing, and that those tracks would play through the audio object of the track that had been armed for recording.
What happened instead was that, after a single pass, recording would switch off (though it would continue to cycle in playback), so that in order to record multiple passes I needed to stop, reset the track to the beginning of the cycle region, and then hit record again. The audio regions I recorded on successive takes also don't display on individual tracks. I'd like to be able to see them all in the arrange window and be able to play them through the original track's audio object for editing purposes, but I can't figure out how to do that either (without creating multiple tracks and then manually dragging each take from the audio window).
So I guess I have two questions: first, what did I do wrong in attempting to cycle record, and then how can I view all of the individually recorded takes in the arrange window?
Thanks,
Trent

Jord, when I called it a "phenomenon" I did not mean to describe it as a bug or fault - you're right, it is a desireable feature of cycle recording.
As far as your question goes: Suppose you are recording track-by-track a song with two parts, an acoustic guitar and vocals, and the acoustic guitar part has an intricate eight-bar solo that needs to be redone. The advantage of using cycle recording and autodrop here is that you could define a cycle region giving you a two-bar intro (say) to the part you need to rerecord and a couple of bars of outro, making it easier to accomplish a musical phrasing. For example, say you're a vocalist trying to record a one-octave scale, and your pitch is off on the "fa-so." With cycle recording and autodrop, you could sing along with the "do-re-mi" and settle your pitch before rerecording the notes you flubbed, whereas (as I understand it) if you're just rerecording the "fa-so" in cycle mode, you won't get the "do-re-mi" as an intro after the first pass and would then just hope that you're nailing the notes you need to rerecord cold.
You can combine cycle recording with autodrop in Midi - why not in audio? It's a desireable feature in both.

In cyclic Auto Punch recording only records 1st time.

In cyclic Auto Punch recording mode the Logic doesn't re-activate the record function after the 1st pass of the cycle. I have to reactive the record.
Is there a way I can keep cycle takes so that I don't have to put my guitar down to restart the Recording.

Thanks,
yes that works but will have to clean up unwanted. I’ll have to play with it more.
I’m used to Cubase where their Audio Interface (Steinberg) has a foot switch to select cyclic options like Restart, Record and then Stop.
The Restart goes to where you placed your play Head a couple of bars before the Punch In. This gives me time to play along before the recording starts.
After recording I push the foot switch and the playhead goes back to the Restart position (not the punch in position).

Auto Mute is not working when cycle recording in MIDI to a take folder

I'm hoping someone can provide insight into the problem I'm having in Logic X. I'm attempting to record multiple takes of MIDI recording playing an e-kit through Addictive Drums. I have gone into the MIDI recording options menu and selected "create take folders". According to the manual, the previous take is supposed to be auto-muted when the cycle region resets so I can record the next take. However, instead Logic is playing the previous region. This did not happen when I cycle recorded in Garage Band and I'm hoping I am just doing something simple wrong. I know there is an option to create a new track and mute the previous, but I don't want to create 7 or 8 new tracks when I should be able to put them in a take folder. The auto-mute feature worked in the tutorial video on Lynda.com, so I'm wondering what I am doing wrong. Any advice?

Upon further review, this problem seems to only appear when I work on projects that I import into Logic from GarageBand '11. This is a HUGE glitch for my workflow, as I use cycle recording extensively while writing drum parts for songs and my biggest collaborating artist uses GB '11. Does anyone know if there is something I'm missing?

Auto Create Tracks in Cycle Record in LP8?

I might be alone but used Auto Create Tracks in Cycle Record a lot in Logic 7. I sat down today to down some work and cant find the equivalent in LP 8 any where.
I use this to play a record a track then record again whilst listening to the original. Sometimes this will end up being as many as 8 tracks playing at the same time whilst another is being recorded.
Can this be done in LP8?
Sorry if this info is else where I have just spent a few hrs looking through the manual and this forum
My best
Joff

Why do you post this twice, you won't get different answers by posting it again......

I'm in cycle mode, and 'merge' is clicked in preferences. However, when I record, my previous track data keeps getting overwritten. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong. Interestingly, I can still see the data in the region.

I'm in cycle mode, and 'merge' is clicked in preferences. However, when I record, my previous track data keeps getting overwritten. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong. Interestingly, I can still see the data in the region.

jamestait wrote:
when I record, my previous track data keeps getting overwritten.
since you didn't specify, are you recording in a single take?
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#multipassrecording
(Let the page FULLY load. The link to your answer is at the top of your screen)

Auto Create Track in Cycle Record NOT disengaging??

I was using Auto Create Track in Cycle Record, in the song settings recording menu, for multiple audio voice overs. Now that I want to record without this function, it is not deactivating when I disengage the selection in the song settings recordings menu.
Is there something I'm forgetting to do here? I'm 99% positive that the only way to engage this function was from the song settings recording menu.
If I record without Cycle engaged, the recording will stay on the one track selected. If i turn Cycle back on without Auto Create Track in Cycle Record activated, it reacts as though it was engaged. ???
Please help, in a bind.
Thanks!

Can someone help me please? is it a bug? or is it some sort of setting combination I need to discover.

After I upgraded to OSX Mountain Lion, QuickTime no longer auto names and auto saves, my recorded files.

After I upgraded to OSX Mountain Lion, QuickTime no longer auto names and auto saves, my recorded files.

Try using one of these video players. VLC usually works with most files.
Video Player - Divx
Video Player – Flip4Mac
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Auto create audio tracks in cycle record Logic X without take folder

Is this at all possible?
For audio not midi and I don't wan't to replace the audio each time,I would like to cycle record Audio takes and have Logic create a new track every time it loops-Like it was back in the day I think on Logic 7-without packing into a take folder.
I know it might just take getting used to but I cannot stand take folders
Please let me know if this is possible!
Thanks in advance
J:-)

Logic does have multi channel record ability, you just record arm the multiple instrument or midi tracks you want, and it'll play/record what ever is armed.
On the record till end of cycle and then move to a new track, I hear you, but you can't do it, logic used to make a new track at the end of a cycle when recording, but nowadays it sticks everything in a stupid take folder and there's no way ( that I've found ) of turning it off. Take folders have their uses, but not for every application.
I can't believe that Apple have have built a loop recorder that'll let you build up multiple parts ( like you're suggesting ) into Mainstage yet they haven't built this into logic. Maybe they will in the future, who knows. I hope so.
So yeah Christian if you want to build up loops as a performance, it's all there in Mainstage. It's called loopback by the way
There's a demo of it here (under live performance)
http://www.apple.com/uk/logicstudio/whats-new/

Weird auto punch bug in Logic Pro X

I set up for an auto punch. Hit record and the auto punch works fine, however it creates what looks like a midi punch on an adjacent track, that wasn't even selected. I can delete this weird midi punch and reconnect the audio file and the adjacent track, so nothing is lost. But this is not right and a bit of a hassle.
I'm running OS 10.8 on a dedicated Mac Mini, with nothing else running. This Mac Mini is totally dedicated for the recording studio.
I've cleaned permissions, and it seems to do better for a while, but then, randomly it will reoccur.
I'm not seeing this anomaly anywhere else in the Community.
Any advise?

I can actually recreate this behaviour.
1. Create two audio tracks with identical inputs
2. Set a punch in and out point (1 bar)
crucial: 3. Select the first track and record arm the second track
4. Set the playhead before the punch-in point, hit record and play some random MIDI
I got this:
However, when I disarm audio 4, it's as it should be: audio gets recorded on audio 3, and the MIDI does not get recorded at all. So it seems it's a matter of making sure no unselected track is armed.

Audition CC - No more cycle recording?

Hello there !
In Audition 3.0 I could easily define a certain area of a backing track, then press recording with the CYCLE option, and then the recording starts over and over again automatically in that certain area of the track. So I can record many takes without pressing RECORD again and again. I use this for complicated solos that i play with my guitar.
I miss this feature in Audition CC.
Can anybody please help?!
Is there a way to do this in C?
The punching in function just starts, and then ends, but it does it just ONE time, not over and over.
Thank you very much!

You haven't said what the interface is, but has the phantom power got switched off? That would stop it working whilst it still appeared as a legitimate source...

L9: Cycle Record Audio = many passes...(only 2 takes showing)!

Can anyone try cycle record Audio... more than 3 passes in Logic 9?
I'm only getting 2 takes I can access and are listed/showing when I click the triangle . They will show in the Bin, but you would need to flatten and reveal the file to see the other passes & work with them.
Midi seems ok.
http://www.generate-music.com/L9cycletakes_bug.mov
3 different computers have this same weirdness.
For what it's worth... we still can't "punch in record" in cycle mode... without Logic dropping us out after the first pass.
Also, when will they give us a simple "keep last full cycle only" for Audio Record settings?

If I've understood you correctly, the "countdown" you are
describing is just the visual signal to let you know when to
begin
the narration. It sounds like you are saying that you think
the recording is over when it hits "zero", but in fact, when it
hits "0", just begin speaking - and moving the mouse through the
application to create the movie.
All of that is assuming you have first connected and
calibrated your microphone, and that the hardware is working
correctly before you begin.
I disagree with your comment that there is EVER a time when
it might not be best to add audio narration after-the-fact, during
the editing stage. It is just a personal observation, but I believe
the "narration during recording" feature is the biggest mistake int
he history of this great application. It just shouldn't be done -
too much like patting your head and rubbing your stomach
simultaneously - requires coordination skills that are waaaaay
beyond those of the average bear. Create your movie complete with
actions, then during editing, add the audio to the movie. It's
quick, simple, and avoids problems with synchronization of hte
audio and the background changes in the movie ... that's just my
opinion, though ...

Cycle recording

Cycle recording on Garageband.
I want to change a small section of the recording.
It records the new recorded section but doesn't attach to the rest of the old recording.
If I choose the new recorded section the rest of the original recording disappears.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks Christoph
I appreciate your time.
This is on a Real Instrument track. It's a vocal.
I get the impression that I'm able to re-record a section that I want to improve by putting the cycle section exactly where I want to replace, and it is replaced in the original recording.
However I can't do it.
What is happening is that it records the new improved version but I can't work out how to incorporate it into the original recording.
If the new one is 2 and the original is 1.
How do I incorporate 2 into 1?
When I play 2 it is only the new revised section. The rest of the song I want to keep is not there.
When I play 1 it is the old version, still with the bit I don't want and want to replace.
Without splitting and copying and pasting..... how do I add the new improved bit to the original recording using the cycle section?
Thanks again
Stephen

How to select and duplicate the records and update some column values using cursor

I have a table with 920 records, we need to update the end date to 6/30/2014 for 920 records and I need to create all 920 records with start date is 7/1/2014 and update the external value to
CCC.
Note: the table primary key is not auto increment, but I have sp to get the latest key for that.
Existing table.
ID
Source Name
Internal value
External value
Start date
End date
1
XXX
AAA
BBB
1/1/2013
6/30/2015
Create new records
ID
Source Name
Internal value
External value
Start date
End date
921
XXX
AAA
CCC
7/1/2013
12/30/2015

Hi ManuGT
If I understand what you need then you ask for:
1. updating all current rows (920 rows in the table now)
2. insert new rows which are duplicates of the preiviews rows, but with value 'CCC' insteade of 'BBB'
If so, there is not reason to use a cursor and it is highly NOT RECOMMENDED to use ant type of loop.
You should work with SET and do it all in 2 simple queries:
-- first we duplicate the existing rows,
-- but we use the values 'CCC" and '20140107' for the new rows values
INSERT test (SourceName, InternalValue, ExternalValue, StartDate, EndDate)
select SourceName, 'CCC', ExternalValue, '20140107' , EndDate
from test
where
-- You can use any filter that you need if you dont want to update all rows
InternalValue = 'AAA' and ExternalValue = 'BBB' and StartDate = '20140101' and EndDate = '20140630'
-- Now we update the old rows (check the filter! I get only the old rows since I filter the new rown out)
UPDATE test
SET EndDate = '20140107' -- I use date in format yyyymmdd, You can use other formats as well
where
-- You can use any filter that you need if you dont want to update all rows
InternalValue = 'AAA' and ExternalValue = 'BBB' and StartDate = '20140101' and EndDate = '20140630'
Unfortunately you did not post DDL+DML! Therefore we cant see your table structure and the data sample and we can only guess. I used Saeid's post as the basic DDL+DML.
Please next time post DDL+DML
here is the full code with the DDL+DML that i used:
-- This is our DDL - A create table query:
create table test
( id int identity(1,1) primary key,
SourceName nvarchar(3),
InternalValue nvarchar(3),
ExternalValue nvarchar(3),
StartDate date,
EndDate date
go
-- This is our DML - A query that insert some sample data
declare @i int = 1 ;
while @i < 921
begin
insert test (SourceName, InternalValue, ExternalValue, StartDate, EndDate)
values ('XXX', 'AAA', 'BBB', '1/1/2014', '6/30/2014' ) ;
set @i += 1 ;
end ;
GO
-- Here is the solution for the problem as I understood your needs:
-- first we duplicate the existing rows,
-- but we use the values 'CCC" and '20140107' for the new rows values
INSERT test (SourceName, InternalValue, ExternalValue, StartDate, EndDate)
select SourceName, 'CCC', ExternalValue, '20140107' , EndDate
from test
where
-- You can use any filter that you need if you dont want to update all rows
InternalValue = 'AAA' and ExternalValue = 'BBB' and StartDate = '20140101' and EndDate = '20140630'
-- Now we update the old rows (check the filter! I get only the old rows since I filter the new rown out)
UPDATE test
SET EndDate = '20140107' -- I use date in format yyyymmdd, You can use other formats as well
where
-- You can use any filter that you need if you dont want to update all rows
InternalValue = 'AAA' and ExternalValue = 'BBB' and StartDate = '20140101' and EndDate = '20140630'
-- Here we just check how the result look like :-)
select *
from test ;
-- And since we do not realy need this table in our server... Here we clean the DDL (you probaby DO NOT WANT TO EXECUTE THIS!)
DROP table test
GO
I hope this was useful :-)
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