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I'm at a purchasing precipice....
What is the brand/chip type for the converters for the X-Fi lineup...particularily the
$20.00 model.
For recording enthusiasts, this is obviously important!
I'll hold out if the converter hardware sounds promising.
After all, an M-audio 24/96 is waiting for a little over $00.....
Any info for me? Thanks
JB

This is adding to my post above, a quote from the ExtremeTech website regarding "Creation Mode". In my case I'll be happy if the effects are decent and 24/48......but I'll take hardware 24/96 real time effects for under $200......
Here's where it gets interesting: The X-Fi has a Creation Mode that, when activated, will let the X-Fi process dry (no effects) 96KHz/24-bit content at its nati've resolution. So for example, if playing a DVD-Audio disc, you could switch to this Creation Mode and have a pure 96 KHz/24-bit signal path for your playback, provided you don't apply effects. However, the X-Fi still runs its effects engines at either 44. KHz or 48 KHz. It cannot run them at a sampling rate of 96 KHz, but Creative has implemented what's called band-splitting to be able to apply effects to 96 KHz/24-bit content.
Band-Splitting can split high-frequency recordings into a maximum of four 48 KHz bands. In the case of 96 KHz/24-bit, X-Fi would create two 48 KHz bands, rather than a single 96 KHz sample using what's called a Quadrature Mirror Filter. According to Creative, this process is similar to time-based multiplexing. Effects can then be applied to these separate bands and then the bands are recombined. Band-splitting can reduce the computational costs by up to a factor of four in the case of working on 92 KHz material (split into four bands). The bands are run in parallel through the X-Fi's effects engines and re-assembled to be 96 KHz/24-bit material, and Creative stated that it has seen no issues of recombined material suffering from variances in either amplitude (volume) or phase alignment. When pressed, Creative officials acknowledged that there is a minute amount of artifacting as a result of band-splitting, but that it would never approach being audible.
Creative chose to use band-splitting as a software architecture decision, and believes this approach deli'vers more bang for the buck in the form of more powerful effects and more of them. Creative also pointed out that while effects run at 48KHz, full band data passes through the effect. If the audio signal contains information at very high frequencies, for example above 24kHz, that information will pass through the effect untouched with the possible exception of a gain applied to insure that the signal level matches that in the processed band.
According to Creative, adding effects to high-resolution recordings would not be possible without this band-splitting implementation. This is true to a point, but the reason for this design approach stems from several factors, the biggest of which is likely cost. To implement nati've 96 KHz/92KHz support in the effects engines would require more transistors, increase die size, and reduce per-wafer yields. Remember that this audio processor, despite its many features and high MIPS rating still has to eventually power a $70 sound card

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