Daisy Chain 2 different interfaces

Hello fellow plug in lovers,
Is it possible to daisy chain 2 different interfaces together.
I.e 1 x RME Firface 800 and MOTU Ultralite.
To give me 16 outputs of analog output.
Your help, as always is much appreciated
Ta
P.s Hello Sie

Are these both Firewire devices? If so you can daisychain the firewire, but I think you will need to create an aggregate device in the AUDIO/MIDI setup in OSX. this means effectively telling Core Audio that the 2 devices are to be treated as one and that all ins and outs should be recognised.
On the other hand if one of your devices has 8 audio and 8 digital connections and the other device is an analogue to digital converter plugged into the first item's ADAT ports (if that's what it has) Then, as Blayzay says, you don't need to create an aggregate device for that.
For us to be more specific we need to know exactly what in and out ports both devices have and how you intend to connect them, either to each otheer, or both to the computer.

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TechnoMax wrote:
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