Daisy Chain Snow to Time Capsule

A few months ago I got a new Time Capsule and retired my trusty old Snow ABS. I took the recommendation and set up WPA security. The Snow was WEP. Well a few days ago I had to bring out a nice old G3 iBook (late-model) for a project and when I tried to connect it to the TC I did not get the WPA option. I dug through the forums and knowledge base and understand there should be an upgrade. Well I tired everything, including re-installing 10.3.2 then updating back to 10.3.9. Then I tried re-installing and sticking with 10.3.2 and upgrading just the Airport software to 4.2. Etc, etc, etc. and I cannot get the iBook G3 to use WPA.
Sooo, I broke out the Snow and daisy chained it to one of the <...> ports on the time capsule. The old G3 sees the Snow but I cannot get it to connect to the internet.
The Airport setup software on the iBook 10.3.9 will not update it and the MacAir Leopard cannot even see it - although both machines can access it from the menu drop down and connect to the snow.
So here are my questions: Can I daisy chain the Snow to the TC? What port do I use on the Snow? What configuration can I use to get the Snow to access the net connected this way (the TC is connected to my Cable modem)? What software can I use to do what ever configs I need to do to the Snow?

Not sure why the admin util did not worked on the MBA.
This is the issue that I was trying to help with, for future base station administration. (I recognize that you can administer the Snow from an old machine. If that situation is satisfactory, you may disregard the rest of this post.) I'm sorry if my earlier post wasn't clear.
On the MBA, the preference file that I mentioned, especially if it was created by a different version of AirPort Admin Utility, might be corrupted.
AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow 4.2.5 might not find the Snow unless the MBA successfully connects to the Snow's wireless network before the utility launches.
And the utility might not work with the Snow unless the MBA's IP address when it is connected to the Snow's wireless network is in the same subnet as the Snow's own IP address. The IP address settings in OS 10.5 are in the Advanced network preferences for TCP/IP for AirPort. The MBA's IP address should be 10.0.1.x, if the Time Capsule is set to share a public IP address, the Snow is set not to distribute IP addresses, and the MBA is set to use DHCP. The Snow's IP address is viewable on the opening screen of AirPort Admin Utility on your old machine. (While the Snow is set not to distribute IP addresses, its LAN IP address equals its WAN IP address.) The WAN IP address settings for the Snow are in the "Internet" pane of AirPort Admin Utility. The Snow's IP address should also be 10.0.1.x--i.e., in the same subnet as the MBA--if the TC is set to share a public IP address, the Snow's WAN port is connected to the TC's LAN port, the Snow is set to use DHCP in the "Internet" pane of AirPort Admin Utility, and the Snow is set not to distribute IP addresses in the "Network" pane of AirPort Admin Utility.

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Problem with daisy chaining HDDs and Time Machine

I have purchased 2 WD My Passport Studio FireWire 2TB HDDs which I have daisy chained to my MacBook Pro. One I have assigned to be the Time Machine backup the other as an additional data drive. Both are formatted for Mac OS Extended (Journaled). I setup Time Machine to backup both the internal and external drive. When I set it up everything looked OK in Time Machine Preferences, but the daisy chained data drive displayed on the desktop with the Time Machine backup logo and the backup drive displayed as a standard FireWire data drive. However the backup worked successfully and backed everything up to the correct backup drive.
I have since established the following:
1. If both drives are daisy chained and then plugged in, the data drive shows up with the backup icon and the backup drive shows as a data drive, but Time Machine backs up to the correct drive. This is the case regardless of what order the drives are daisy chained.
2. If the backup drive is plugged in on its own it shows up correctly with the backup drive icon. If the data drive is then daisy chained to the backup drive both drives show up as backup drives. Time Machine backs up to the correct backup drive.
3. If the data drive is plugged in on its own it shows up incorrectly as the backup drive. If the backup drive is then daisy chained to the data drive the backup drive shows as a normal FireWire data drive. But Time Machine still backs up to the correct drive. Exactly the same as case 1 but the drives have been daisy chained after connecting to the MacBook Pro and the result is the same.
4. However if the data drive is plugged in on its own, showing up as the backup drive, Time Machine backs up to the data drive incorrectly.
The first three points are just annoying as the drive icons do not display correctly, although it does indicate to me that Time Machine is confused. But what I don't like is the fact that I can't just use the external data drive without the backup drive being present.
How do I overcome this problem?

Launch Disk Utility and select one of the volumes in question. Click the Info button in the toolbar. In the Information window that opens, note the Universal Unique Identifier. Do the same with the other volume. Are the identifiers the same?

Snow Leopard / Time Capsule

My time capsule quit backing up after I installed Snow Leopard. I can not find any updates that might correct this. I have version 7.6.1 The airport associated with this works fine.

Do you also have wireless turned on.. so you have dual links to the TC.. I have found that messy. Turn off wireless or make sure it is not messing the gateway.
I presume the computer has internet??
Is the TC the main router in the network?? If not describe more details of the network.
If you attempt to do a manual backup via TM what is the error message?
The widget is well worth installing as it will give you proper log info from TM.. Ie A1 in the pondini guide.
I would recommend a reset of the TC.. change the names btw to smb standard .. short no spaces.. pure alphanumeric.. reset the airport which I guess is doing extension of wireless to the new name..
At least reboot the whole network.. modem.. router.. TC (might be one and the same router) then clients.. wait 2 min between each.

Daisy Chaining External Hard Drives

How many self-powered, or powered HDs can be daisy chained to the TC's USB port? Will all of the external drives be available on the Mac? I have several HDs I routinely access for files and would like to do it wirelessly. I would also like to be able to backup those drives on the TC or other external.

There is no specific documentation (that I could find anyway) that state exactly how many devices can be daisy-chained to the Time Capsule. Although I would assume that the USB port on the Time Capsule is no different than the one on your Mac - which would mean up to 127 devices per host controller or USB port. Although I don't have any personal experience connecting more than one (4 port) USB hub, I noticed a reduced connection speed when trying to use more than one drive simultaneously besides the obvious fact that you are already limited by the wireless network speed. This was compared to using the same procedure while having the USB hub directly attached to my iMac.
The way the external drives show from your Mac is similar to how the Time Capsule internal drive shows. When you select the Time Capsule from the Finder window, it will show all the external drives by name. The external drives, of course, should be formatted appropriately.
In order to backup these drives, you would need additional software such as Prosoft Backup or similar. You would not be able to accomplish it using Time Machine.
Attaching an external drive using this method is referred to as network attached storage. Not all software can fully use this connection method to all of it's capabilities.... yet. So it does not function quite the same as attaching the drive directly to your computer. You would lose certain functions, like most backup solutions or being able to boot from the drives. Even some software doesn't recognize the drives as usable storage.

I have a Mac Pro tower with two internal Hard Discs, each one 2TB. I purchased a 3TB Time Capsule. But it does not allow me to back up because it says there is not enough back up space available. Between the two HDs there are 3.3TBs. Can I daisy chain TC?

I have a Mac Pro tower (OSX version 10.6.3) with two internal Hard Drives, each one 2TB.
I purchased a 3TB Time Capsule. But cannot back up because it tells me there is not enough space.
I have more than 3Tbs to store to the new TC.
Can I daisy chain two TCs to store the 4TBs?
How can I back up only the internal HD that is already full, without backing up the other one?
How can I do back up using Time Machine to back up the 3.5Tbs?
Do I need to purchase another external HD (that is not TC) to be able to back up all of my photos?

Can I daisy chain two TCs to store the 4TBs?
No, you cannot link to produce a single large partition.
But you can have two separate backup jobs.. and use each partition. That is hard on TM but you can easily get a different backup software for it.
How can I back up only the internal HD that is already full, without backing up the other one?
In TM you do a different setup and exclude the other drive.
But it is better to use an alternative software IMHO.
How can I do back up using Time Machine to back up the 3.5Tbs?
You would need to use a network drive of more than 4TB .. it would also take forever. This is just wrong way to do it. Although you can buy a NAS that will work with Time Machine and load it with disks 16TB is possible.. if you can get a second mortgage.. the fragile nature of TM on 3rd party devices.. would leave me in cold sweat if anything went wrong.
TM is excellent at keeping incremental backups of files that keep changing.. as such you should use TM to backup your OS disk and main user directory.. exclude all files and directories that never change. Back them up separately.
Do I need to purchase another external HD (that is not TC) to be able to back up all of my photos?
Yes, that is a much better idea. You want to store photos safely and you want to store them in multiple places. If you have multiple TB of photos, dedicate a couple of disks to the backup. ie have at least two copies.. not in backup format.. in straight copy format if possible.. so you can keep one of the disks offsite.
I would be using your MacPro internal disk access, to place the disk onto sata bus and do the copy disk to disk direct. Or even buy esata card.. or sata to esata converter cable so you can use esata box. That will beat any other transfer speed except thunderbolt for which you would need third mortgage. (The MORT in mortgage is significant).
The great jurist Sir Edward Coke, who lived from 1552 to 1634, has explained why the term mortgage comes from the Old French words mort, "dead," and gage, "pledge." It seemed to him that it had to do with the doubtfulness of whether or not the mortgagor will pay the debt.

Daisy chain two La Cie hard drives through time capsule usb

my time capsule runs oNe la cie 350GB through the usb great
can i daisy chain (firewire a 1 TB d2 la cie through the 350) and still see both and access from network in finder???

can i daisy chain (firewire a 1 TB d2 la cie through the 350) and still see both and access from network in finder???
Sorry, but I really don't think this is something that the TC's USB port & File Sharing function would be able to support.
Have you tried this combination connected directly to your computer? ... and did it work?

Daisy chain apple time capsules

I need to get a new router. My 3 year old Time Capsule seems to be choking the broadband signal more and more.
First, is there a way to update the Time Capsule? I've recently changed to Mountain Lion and it seems to be around the time this choking started to happen.
Second, if I get a new Time Capsule, is there a way to daisy chain the old one so that I can still use it as backup storage?

How do I do a factory reset on the TC?
Power off the TC. Press reset.. power on the TC whilst continuing to hold in reset.. wait about 10sec until the front led flashes rapdily. You only need 3 hands to do this so a friend is a big help.
When you suggest clean install ML, you mean on my computers?
Yes, upgrade install causes wireless bugs. IMHO never upgrade install any OS ever.. it is never satisfactory.
Finally, how do I set up a TC to be in bridge mode, and turn off Wifi? I do not see those options in my Time Machine Utility.
THank you!
On ML you are condemned to 6.1 toyland utility.. it is pretty and useless.. in other words pretty useless.
It is easy to load the 5.6 utility into ML. Now that I have done it.. just follow the instructions.
Download 5.6 utility for Lion. (even better if you still have a lion computer because you can then install it).
Download an unpacking tool.. eg. http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16357/unpkg
This is simple and free. There is also Pacifist which is $20 shareware.
Install unpkg and start it.
Open the 5.6 dmg file and drag the pkg onto unpkg.
It will open the package and load the files into the desktop under the name of the package.
Open the AirPortUtility56 directory.
Go to applications, utilities.. and drag the utility to your utilites folder. You can now just start 5.6 instead of 6.1 and live just got a bit easier.
More details in lots of threads.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4172563?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4141324?start=15&tstart=0
In 5.6 utility.. bridge.. go to manual setup, internet tab. Connection sharing.. select off bridge mode.
In 6.1 utility.. bridge is an option under dhcp and NAT..
Turn off wireless.
In 5.6 utility .. manual setup.. airport tab.. wireless sub section.. wireless mode .. off.
I haven't checked it in 6.1 yet.. but it should not be hard to find.

Can you daisy chain time capsule??

A while back I tried to daisy chain 2 lacie drives off of airport and that didn't work. 2 questions:
1/from what I have read I can connect this to an airport extreme and that will work just like my lacie does now...
2/Does anyone know if I would be able to use all 3??
Thank you

I'll my 2cents worth here as there's some assumptions being made in these responses that IMO are misleading the author of this thread.
1. Apple fully supports using Time Machine with the internal HDD located in the Time Capsule.
2. It's a stretch to assume Time Machine can also safely (and with Apple's full support) also support USB AirDisk(s) attached to the Time Capsule. Recall that the earlier version of Time Capsule was the AEBS (10/100 or GbE) supported AirDisk(s) but their use with Time Machine was pulled from Leopard just a week before Leopard was released on Oct 26, 2007. At this time Apple has not made public what their future position is or will be in bringing back this feature.
So for those that are thinking of using USB drive(s) with Time Capsule and hoping to use them with Time Machine I say be forewarned or at least wait for Apple to publically announce support for them before investing in the Time Capsule.

Can I use back to my mac to access two daisy chained time capsules running on my network alone or do I also need a mac running on the same network?

I have a DSL modem router (HUWAI ECHO LIFE 520) with uPNP enabled. The first time capsule´s wan is connected to that router the second time capsules wan is connected to the first time capsules lAN. The router looks at the first time capsule as DMZ and passes traffic on the public IP through to it. There are airport expressses either end of the chain. The network works a charm. I would like to have both time capsules visible through Back to My Mac, which isn´t currently working. Back to My Mac is activated on all devices involved. What else to try?
Arved

Both TC should be in bridge mode. Is that what you have done? You cannot use the TC in router mode as it will cause double NAT problems.
Can you access one of the TC? Or do both fail to show up?

How do I daisy chain two time capsules as a wired router and use the hard of both as back-up?

I have a newer time capsule tower and an older time capsule that I wasn't using. The older TC works fine I just decided to upgrade about 6 months ago. I decided to run an Ethernet cable from the room where the TC tower is to the room where the TV in order to create a wired connection to the TC tower. I wanted to use my Apple TV with a wired. In addition, I am in the process of buying a Channel Master DVR plus and besides wanting to use it with older TC wired also wanted to use the older TC’s hard drive to extend the recording time of the DVR. Will this work? If so, my questions are related to setup of all. I assuming I plug the Ethernet cable into the LAN port of the TC tower and the other end into the WAN port of the older TC. Is this correct? What settings do I need on the TC tower and the older TC to make this work as a wired connection? Do I need to turn off the wireless connection on the older TC? Will I just need to plug in the DVR into the older TC’s USB port to use its hard drive? Thanks for your assistance.

I assuming I plug the Ethernet cable into the LAN port of the TC tower and the other end into the WAN port of the older TC. Is this correct?
Yes
What settings do I need on the TC tower and the older TC to make this work as a wired connection?
The setup "wizard" will automatically provide the correct settings to the older TC to "extend a network using Ethernet" when you start from a factory default reset condition on the old TC.
Do I need to turn off the wireless connection on the older TC?
You can, but if the older TC is located some distance from the new TC, you might want to leave the wireless on to allow an "extended" network with more wireless coverage in the area near the old TC.
Will I just need to plug in the DVR into the older TC’s USB port to use its hard drive?
The USB port on the old TC (and new TC) will only support a normal computer hard drive.....not a DVR. If you want to connect a hard drive for more recording capacity, you will likely need to use a separate USB or SATA hard drive that is connected directly to the DVR, not to the old TC.
Check the documentation on the DVR to confirm how that device should be set up.

Daisy-chaining a ethernet hub to the time capsule

I am using all three of my wired ethernet ports on the time capsule, and I need a fourth. Current set up is 1) Vonage VoIP adapter; 2) printer w/o wireless option; and 3) connection to a EoPL adapter.
I was wondering if I can buy a cheap ethernet hub and plug the hub (WAN or LAN port?) into the TC and get additional ethernet ports in the manner of a USB hub.
No, I don't want to put the printer on the USB port as it is shared over the LAN, and I don't want to buy another AirPort Express and set up the printer on that unless I have to.
If I can, what are the recommendations on type of hub, how to connect and which devices will funtion better (if any) plugged directly into the TC vs. the hub.
I am doing all of this because I want to add a Sonos bridge which needs a wired ethernet connection. Haven't looked at putting another EoPL node in and plugging the Sonos bridge into that directly.
Thanks,
S

Any gigabit switch will work perfectly.. you can also use fast ethernet but gigabit matches the TC and are cheap enough. Switch is now a consumer electronics item.. walk into a large computer store ask for a gigabit switch.. name the number of ports you want, 5, 8, 16, 24 are standard. Carry switch home.. plug it into the TC .. any of the LAN ports.. to any port on the switch.. they are all auto now.. no uplink port. The limitation is a 1Gbit/s link between the two boxes.. so if you have very fast file transfers.. all should be plugged into the switch rather than the TC.
Best value is 8port.. and they now have green ones.. they auto turn off unused ports to save power.. the power saved is negligible but the heat disappation goes down and it runs cooler. Should be less than $80.. maybe even $50.

Daisy chaining two time capsules?

Hi there,
I have two spare 2TB time capsules and was wodering wheter there is any way to combine them into one network drive of 4TB capacity. I have purchased a 4TB My Cloud and using the spare TCs as backup option would be ideal. Any way way of doing this?
Thanks!

Any way way of doing this?
Unfortunately, no.

Time Capsule "can't be found" as a hard disk in Snow Leopard

I've had a Time Capsule for a year and a half. No problems until I installed Snow Leopard.
Time Machine seems to work fine, my backups proceed regularly, but if I try to actually mount the hard disk and upload or download files from the drive, I can't. The path "My Computer/Network/Time Capsule" shows up in a Finder window, but when I click on the icon for the Time Capsule drive, it says "The alias 'My Time Capsule' can't be opened because the original item can't be found." I can "Delete Alias", "Fix Alias..." or "OK".
Clicking on Fix Alias leads to the file selector dialog box. If I select the drive, it claims that it is already connected. So the only available option in the dialog box is "cancel".
Clicking on Delete Alias gives the error message "The item 'My Time Capsule' can't be moved to the Trash because it can't be deleted."
Clicking on OK, naturally, accomplishes nothing.
I tried going to Disk Utility and repairing disk permissions and rebooting. Nada.
I tried connecting directly to the Time Capsule via ethernet. Didn't make a difference.
Help!!!

I'm having the same problem. Internet connection is fine; backups work correctly. But I get a message telling me there's an update I should install for Time Capsule, and when I click to install it, it tells me it can't find the hard drive.
I also can't print, although my printer driver is installed and the image of the printer appears. My printer is connected to the Time Capsule.

2TB Time Capsule and Time Machine on Snow Leopard 10.6.1 slooooooow

I have a 2TB Time Capsule on a 100Mps LAN that is shared by my Mac Pro and an iMac G5. No USB devices are connected to the Time Capsule. The Time Capsule and both computers are connected to the LAN through a LinkSys 8-port Cable/Router/DHCP.
While in Time Machine (about 30 backup folders) looking for a file to restore, it takes 2-5 minutes for Time Machine to change between backups. The time line on the right responds extremely slowly.
Whether or not the iMac is backing up has no effect.
Is this normal?
Thank you,
Don

See: http://www.codedifferent.com/2009/09/02/howto-reactivate-your-kyocera-printer-un der-mac-os-x-snow-leopard/
We have a KM-2550 and this solved it. HTH.

I have just update my MacBook to Snow Leopard 10.6.3. Unfortunately I can not now connect to the internet. I have a time capsule that is connected to a router. This is working with other devices but if I try to connect with the MB everything stops?

I have updated my MB to Snow Leopard 10.6.3 - I know this means I am a little behind the times but the problems I am now having seem to justify my reluctance. Now am unable to connect to the internet! I use a time capsule connected via a router. Everything is still OK with every other device (PC, I phone, Ipod) in the house so I know the "Network" is still enabled and there is no problem with the ISP. Strangley whenever I boot up the MB it appears to freeze the network such that the other devices also will then not access the internet. To regain access I have to turn off the MB and reset the router. Any help gratefully recieved as I have tried some of the ideas i have found in the internet but nothing is working. Thanks.

That's odd.
Try this: Unplug your Time Capsule and your router. On your MBP, click the Wi-Fi icon and select "Open Network Preferences".
Click the lock icon to authenticate, then click the "gear" and select "set service order". Wherever AirPort (or Wi-Fi - I forget what Snow Leopard calls it) appears, drag it elsewhere in the list. Click OK, then Apply, then power up your router and TC.
If that doesn't result in any change, repeat the above but try making the service(s) you do not need "inactive".
The purpose of this is to reset or at least change your Network Preferences, which somehow got confused upon upgrading to SL.

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