Damaged stock at vendor place in subcontracting process?

hello all SAP gurus,
In subcontracting scenario, If 5 raw material sent to vendor and vendor sent back to us 1 semi-finished products. But 2 got damage out of 5.
so how to mapped in sap system?

Hi,
client want to charge from vendor for those material.
In this case, 1st we need to scrap the material at vendor location using MB1A with 551 movement type and special stock as "O". Then from FI side we need to send a debit note to vendor.
can it be returned to warehouse ? which scenario is it possible?
We can return by MB1B with 542 movement type to our warehouse. It will be unrestricted stock only. Now we need to decide how to handle this damage product. Should we move to quality or blocked stock or we will scrap it.
I hope it clears you.
Thank you.
Regards,
SK

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To keep track of Damaged Stock

Dear Friends,
My client has come up with new requirement to keep track of damaged stocks.
They want us to create new Order type with Zero Pricing and New Invoice type having Net Value Zero.
They have implemented complete Warehouse management.
Earlier they use to scrap material using Movement Type.
Regards,
MAYANK

Hi,
Now for better tracking of damaged stock they want to use Standard process of SD from Order creation to Billing where Net value will be Zero as they can not sell these Bad/Damaged stock to any one.
It's not clear to whom you want to sell the damaged goods. You mentioned that 'they can not sell these Bad/Damaged stock to any one' / still you want to create sales doc...
As I understand you won't sell the goods to anyone, in this case what is the purpose of the sales document? So, my doubt is the same as Kishore's:
I dont know how a zero value sales order is going to serve your Purpose of scrapping & track of the Finshed goods.
Please describe the tracking requirement better. What do you want to map/trace exactly?
Traceabilty is realized trough / by batch management / serial number management both in business and in SAP.
Csaba
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Aug 28, 2008 4:38 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Aug 28, 2008 4:39 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Aug 28, 2008 4:40 PM

Subcontract Process with vendor supplied component

Hi,
We have a subcontracting process, when we send 3 components to the vendor, the vendor apply another component and return the semi finished to me.
I have a BOM of this semi finished Good that includes all the 4 components.
We sent the 3 components via mb1b.
We create a PO of the Semi Finished Good if we verified the components the 4 components are there.
When we try to receive via MIGO and click in verify The 3 itens that I send is OK ... But the item that is supplied by the vendor show me an error message that there is no stock.
What should I do to receive the component supplied by the vendor ?

Hello,
1. Create subcontracting with item category "L" and second line item in same PO enter with Item cateogroy means STD.
2. Item level of the Delivery address tab, tick SC Vendor and enter the same Vendor code there.
3.Go for GR for only for 2nd line item first. This stock will automatically picks 101 O Mvt, and u can view this stock as Vendor stock.
Check MMBE stock overview , Material is showing provided to Vendor at plant level.
4. Provide other 3 components with MB1B- 541 Mvt.
5. Go for second GR for finished Product.
4th Material shown as Material provided to Vendor in stock overview. if you want to get back that same material to your stock. reverse that stock use t code MB1B with help of Movement type 542.
Or else.
Through subsequnet settelement you can send the 4th Material to your subcontrcator MB04.
Regards
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Subcontracting process to multiple vendors

Dear friends,
We have got the subcontracting process as below.
1) Material is given to subcontracting vendor for making finished product.This job consists of 5 operations.
2) After making 1 operation at first vendor ,for remaining operations,partly processed material is given to second vendor from outside vendor to vendor.
3) After 2 nd operation is completed,remaining 3,4,5 operations,material is given to 3rd subcontracting vendor.
Then material is recieved to our place.
Material is moved from vendor to vendor without coming to our location.At the end of the process only finished prioduct will come to our location.
How to handle this scenario if finished product is completed within 180 days
---How to handle this scenario if finished product is completed more than 180 days.
--One condition is that it is not possible to take GR every time to our location and issue to next vendor because materials handling is very difficult every time.
Please suggest.
regards,
Canand

Hi Anand,
1. Create a PO to 1st vendor.
2. Maintain the required entries.
3. Go to delivery address tab tick SC Vendor
4. Maintain 2nd vendor here.
It means that after finishing first operation 1st vendor sends a matl. to 2nd vendor.
If u post migo for 1st PO(i.e. for 1st PO vendor) system says that matl is with 2nd vendor.
So u need not to send the matl to 2nd vendor.
Similarly, do it for other vendors also.
Here important thing is U have to send a PO to respective vendors for respective operations.
For the last vendor who gives u the finished product dont tick SC vendor to him. Maintain ue company delivery address.
and "answer for ur 180 days"
Who ever with the material once the matl went from ur company premices, from that day ur 180 days starts.
If it comes within 180 days no tax to pay on that material, other wise u have to pay tax.
further u need any clarification, do reply
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Subcontracting stock at vendor

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I have an issue with subcontracting stock at vendor. The scenario is we sent materials for subcontractor processing and we also did a GR against the subcontracting PO. now in MMBE, the unrestricted stock is shown in current quantity but it is also showing that stock is still with the subcontractor( the quantity which we initially sent with subcontracting PO for processing). Why is it so? can anybody pl help me on this.
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Hi Srinivas,
Thanks so much for the reply. I just had a quick question. When we receive the goods from the subcontractor, i mean after the GR, when we go to ME2o, do we still see the stocks at subcontractor? becuase we have completed the GR process and also do we see the stocks in MMBE? please lemme know. Thanks in advance
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chandra

hii
For ur scenario, u have carried out external service management process.
Because , subcontracting is nothing but , u have to X material and receivea as A materia or some different material.
SO if u r going to receive the same material , u can do it as service process.
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Subcontracted Stock at Vendor has quality problem - must be blocked

We have stock at a Vendor (Special Stock Type O) that has a possible quality problem. It must be put on hold until we determine the extent of the problem.
It is still showing up in MD04 as available stock. I tried to move it to QI with movement 322 but it still shows up as available.
How can I block that stock from consideration by MD04 without physically removing it from the Vendor?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards to all!

Hi ppkk,
Thanks for your thoughts.
The problem is that this stock is at the vendor, so there is no storage location. We have Quality related Storage Locations for stock in the plant, and if we move parts to those storage locations they do not show up as available stock in MD04.
But the Special Stock type O is just "Stock at Vendor" with no Storage Location.
I think that we would have to receive the stock back into our plant in order to move it to a Quality related Storage Location.
Does that make sense?
Thanks again.

Subcontracting Process

Hi
If any one can explain in detail about scenario material vendor posting directly to subcontracting vendor
It 's very urgent
Thanks & Regards,
Sadhish

Hi Sadhish,
Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
Hope it wud have answered ur question
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Aasif

SAP SD integration when Scraping materials at third party vendor place

Hi,
Could you please guide how do I map the below scenarios:
1. The Pharma materials are all batch managed. Now the co' has got pharma returns and the credit memo to be issued for all those valid returns. How do I trace the batch while taking return as I have to create return with ref to a billing document only?? Advice on how to map this!
2. Also, the expired materials are destroyed and scraped at the third party vendor place. Now how , in what way do I account through SAP SD process?
Please advice and your inputs are highly appreciated.Thanks in advance!
Regards,

Hi Shrihari
well, it is a bit tricky to refer the billing document because the last one could have the latest batch and which high likely will be a different batch.
For case one, we actually do refer the billing document if for example the wrong ship to party was entered in sales order, the wrong products have been shipped or when goods have been damaged in transit.
When we have a case like the one I 've l mentionned above, the customes tells us by email about the return, we then acknowledge the return by return of email usually and then when goods arrive at warehouse, they are booked as return (normal retun w/o reference to billing document).
What we also face it that sometimes the customers buys the product in , say january, but was not able to sell whole purchased quantity and then wants (in may) to return the remaining product to us. Well we have a policy that we do not accept such returns. sold is sold.
For case two, the customer may return damaged goods to us, we create a sales order return to our warehouse, at 0 price, so we actually do not issue a credit note, but rather book the quantities back into inventory stock blocked and subsequently issue then as scrapped (mvt type 555)
What the customers destroys at their permises w/o informing us, then we do not take any action.
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Intercompany - Subcontracting Process

Hi
We have a subcontracting process where RM/PM is issued by Parent company and other company charges processing fees and sends back FG to parent company.
So this is typically a subcontracting process in SAP where one company sends the material to vendor( 2nd company ) and vendor processes the goods for 1st company and charges processing fees. In 1st company stock will be reflected as stock with vendor and in vendor books (2nd company), this stock will be not appear.
Both the companies are on SAP and using same client.
Now our requirement is as under -
1. Parent Company needs Inventory tracking which is being issued to Vendor for their materials ( because both the companies are on SAP )
2. Vendor needs to generate an invoice for processing fees with following details:
1. Material Produced
2. Quantity produced
3. Batch details
This is legal requirement where Invoice should capture Processing charges details at the time of dispatch..
Kindly advice how this scenario can be mapped with above details. Issues which we are facing are :
1. If we use simple sub contracting process, material tracking is not possible in Parent Company
2. When material is issued to Vendor (Company Code 2), How to receive/dispatch FG material in Vendor so that complete processing in PP can be mapped.
thanks,
Manoj

There is no restrication that Automatic PO will not be created if the PR is created from the Sales Order.
Please elobarate on the exact error you are getting.
However please follow & check if these general settings are in place.
1.Material has the auto PO checked in Material Master.
2. Vendor has the Auto PO checked in Vendor Master.
3.Source list is maintained if material master has source list checked.
4.Valid conditions exist in the Sub Contracting info record.
5.Right variant ex - doctype,Plant etc exist or are entered in ME59N.

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I am beginner in SAP.
This is regarding Goods Receipt in Subcontracting process.
I have provided raw material Quantity = 100 Nos. to subcontracting vendor.
Subcontracting vendor done machining on 80 Quantity, and we have done Goods Receipt for 80 Quantity as Finished Parts.
Subcontracting vendor found 20 Quantity as Defected.
Shall I take back 20 Quantity by Movement Type 542.
OR
Shall I do Goods Receipt of 20 Quantity as Finished Product and price = 0. & then stock transfer of Finished to Raw Material.
Please reply.

Hi,
It depends on what you want your subcontractor to do with the faulty raw material stock - if you want them to scrap it you can scrap stock from subcontractor stock using movement type 551 and special stock "O" (the system should prompt you to enter the vendor code). If you want it returned for you to scrap it - movement 542 to return it then scrap it from your own stock.
You shouldn't receive an additional 20 of the finished parts - as you only received 80 not 100. Close the purchase order off to close off the balance of 20 remaining.
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Third Party Subcontracting Process doubt

Hello all Gurus,
I have one doubt regarding the third party subcontracting process. I have created a PO with delivery address as that of SC vendor.
Now how to do the GR for components if the SC vendor lets me know that he has received the materials from the 3rd party vendor??
Can someone tell me the process after a PO is created for this scenario???
Thanks and Regards,
Umakanth.

Hi,
As I perceive you are speaking about the provision of subcontracting components from one of your vendor directly to another one,
In this case you did well if you wrote the vendorID in the suitable field on 'Delivery address' tab of your PO. 'SC Vendor' thickbox should be also checked. This is not the subcontracting PO itself, it is only a PO to procure the components for subcontracting - your SC vendor receive the components directly. That's why there's no point in speaking about 'L' item category.
After getting information from your SC vendor about the arrival of the goods (components) the only thing you have to do is to do a GR against your PO. The goods will get to your SC vendor's special stock via mvt 101 + 'O'.
That's all.
BR
Csaba

ME59N - Intercompany Third party subcontracting Process

Hi Experts,
In Intercompany third party subcontracting process, PR is created from the sales order. PR has the account assignment category X and Item Category L.
Fixed source of supply exists. Subcontracting Info record has been created.
Material components icon has been deactivated as it is generating from Sales order.
While using ME59N, it throws Requisition could not be converted. One of our collegues told that if the subcontracting item has been automatically generated from SD Module, then ME59N will not convert the PR to PO.
Please let me know if there are any settings needs to be done. Or standard ME59N will not convert the above scenario.
by
Prabhu

There is no restrication that Automatic PO will not be created if the PR is created from the Sales Order.
Please elobarate on the exact error you are getting.
However please follow & check if these general settings are in place.
1.Material has the auto PO checked in Material Master.
2. Vendor has the Auto PO checked in Vendor Master.
3.Source list is maintained if material master has source list checked.
4.Valid conditions exist in the Sub Contracting info record.
5.Right variant ex - doctype,Plant etc exist or are entered in ME59N.

G/L accounts updation in subcontracting process

Hi,
i request you provide details of G/L accounts while ;1) updation while we supply materials to vendor
2) while we recieve the finshed product.3) And while settlement to vendor.
Thanks & Regards,
Ramesh kumar.

Hi,
If Material has Price Control as "V" (MAP)
(BSX) Stock A/c of Assembly - Dr
(BSV) Change in Subcon Stock - Cr
(FRL) Subcontracting Charges - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
(BSX) Stock A/c of Components - Cr
(GBB-VBO) Consumption A/c of Components - Dr
If Material has Price Control as "S" (Std. Price)
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Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
In this step, you configure for each valuation area whether price differences are generated for a Subcontract order at the time of a goods receipt if the manufactured material is managed at standard price and the standard price varies from the receipt value (externally performed service + value of components + delivery costs).
Example
Finished product: $400 (value at standard price)
Subcontract order:
o Ext. service : $250
o Components : $100
Posting schema without price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 400 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
Posting schema with price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 350 -
Price difference : 50 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
And cost center is mandatory for subcontracting process
the accounts for the BSX FRL and GBB-VOB needs the cost elements
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Edited by: venkatesh kumar on May 11, 2010 12:46 PM

New requirement in Subcontracting process

Hi All,
There is a requirement related to indian excise, in Subcontracting process is it possible to merge below 2 steps 1)transfer posting to vendor stock and
2)creating subcontracting challan
That mean to say SC challan has to be created for some qty of material and transfer posting has to happen simultaneously for the same qty with 541 mov type.
This requirement may looks strange..!!
Do you think,it is possible in SAP..??by any means...
Pls confirm
Regds

Hi,
Normal pratice whenever you are sending material to sub contractor .Please count the material load inthe vehicle then raise document.
In you case instead of 10 nos document created and physically you have sent 5 nos only
You can do subsequent settlement
use t.code : MB04 enter the Purchase order no and enter the qty and save .
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I have tried just now. Please try
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