Data in BSIS/BSAS for a non-open item managed account

Hi
We have a GL account (Bank account) which does not have open item management checked in its master data,
Still I can find line items for this account in table BSIS / BSAS
How is this possible ? and if an account is not open item managed, how do the records move from BSIS to BSAS ?
Regards
Sachin

Non Open Item Account should have entries only in Table BSIS and no entries in BSAS. Check if there was OpenItem mgmt earlier but deactivated later.

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sap easy access-accouting-financial accouting-general ledger-master records-gl a/cs-individual processing-centrally, or trans code FS00
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