DATA_PACKAGE between ODS and Cube

Hi SDNs,
I try to do the simulated update from ODS to Cube in the monitor of cube.there are two data packages under processing item.The first one ( A1 ) contains 39393 records, and the second one( A2 ) contains 32872 records.
Then I search the infosource generated by ODS( 8 * ), I find there are 4 data packages ( B1 19391,B2 20002,B3 19595,B4 13277) under the same request number, so it seems that one data package in the monitor contains two ones under the infosource(8*).
My issue is that when I dubugging the data package under monitor, I can only find B1 in A1 and B3 in A2, the B2 and B4 are disappeared...
Why?
Thanks a lot
Sam

Probably because you did not use the PSA to upload the data.
Best regards
Dirk

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Please let me know the difference between ODS and Cube practically with a simple example. I red and know diferences but I did't get the concept.
1. What detail level reporting. How ODS supports this and not in Cube?
2 .When we go for ODS(daily/latest info) and Cube(monthly/ aggreated info )?
3.Where can we see the diff. I know overwrite & addition?
Please explain me with example.Surely I will assign points.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Sri.

HI ALL,
Thanks for your immediate replies.
I did a file upload with full load to ODS:
1st load
======
CID PRICE QTY
C01 10 1000
C02 20 2000
C01 20 2000
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======================
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C02 20 2000
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======
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=================
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C03 5 100
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======================
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C02 20 2000 N
C01 35 1500
C01 20- 2000- X
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C02 20- 2000- X
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We can do the same detailed in info cube also, if we check DB aggregation.
I have a doubt:
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C01 5 15 2007.05.03
C01 5 25 2007.05.03
C01 5 35 2007.05.03
C01 5 45 2007.05.03
we load this 4 times and overwrites evry time and see the latest record.
In ods : we can see :this only : latest :
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In Cube: we can see
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Cheers,
Sri.

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Hi Epxerts,
When we say the difference between ODS and Cube : we Say cube is summerization data and ODS is Detailed data .What exactly this meaning.
Plz explain with example.

Hi,
Consider a scenario where gives detailed description:
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step1:
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Storing data in the InfoCube
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Hi
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DSO works on 'Overwrite' principle.
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Hi all,
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Hi,
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What is the difference between ODS and PSA?

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ODS AND PSA?

hi..
ODS:
Stores consolidated data on the document level.
Data is stored in transparent tables.
Reporting is possible.
Represented on the database by three transparent tables.
Stores Transaction data.
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Can be defined as a datasource for another Bw system.
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PSA:
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used mainly for performing manual update or simulate update or reconstruction.
partition is possible.
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Error handling posibility.
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We have psa and ODS but we can't do reporting on PSA
You can do reporting in ODS , In PSA u cant do reportin directly
ODS contains detail -level data , PSA The requested data is saved, unchanged from the source system. Request data is stored in the transfer structure format in transparent, relational database tables in the Business Information Warehouse. The data format remains unchanged, meaning that no summarization or transformations take place
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we can edit/add the records in PSA and delete the records,
i thjink its not possible to edit the records in ODS, u can delete the records, and u can add records in ODS
check out this link..
PSA and ODS
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ramu

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Hi everyone,
I have solved my problem. I executed my infopackage again (selection condition using GL Account which have wrong amount) with update mode 'Full update' and choose Scheduler > Repair Full Request and tick the checkbox.Thank you.
Regards,
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Hello Partho
I understand your KF are overwrite in DSO. But in BI7 flow delta from DSO to cube is request based.
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