Data plans are a scam!

It is virtually impossible to have a data plan of 150MB and stay under the limit. I am trying to understand these apps on my kids phone because they apparently connect and download data continuously every couple minutes thus pushing your usage over the limit every month. Verizon sales wants to get you into the unlimited plan = more $$
These services are impossible to control and they know it.

MJ-farm wrote:
It is virtually impossible to have a data plan of 150MB and stay under the limit. I am trying to understand these apps on my kids phone because they apparently connect and download data continuously every couple minutes thus pushing your usage over the limit every month. Verizon sales wants to get you into the unlimited plan = more $$
These services are impossible to control and they know it.
You are right about one thing, vzw can't control your kids.
If you go over every month than chances are the unlimited plan would not actually cost you more
If your kids are using facebook/twitter or any games than yes they are constantly having a data connection.
150mb is nothing for a month these days
You can add usage controls for 9.99 a month to put a hard stop that would shut their data off at 150mb if you can't control their usage yourself.

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Verizon Max Data Plans are not a deal

I just read about the Olive Branch Verizon has extended to us obstinate unlimited data plan holders.
The Max Data Plans are a weed dressed up to look like an Olive Branch.
I did the math on my unlimited nill vs a Max Bill with Edge phones. Currently I pay $201.75 for two lines + unlimited data.
I have an S4, so I don't need a new phone, but if I did I would go Note 3. My wife has an iPhone 5 64gb, so a 5s 64gb would be a good choice.
After crunching the numbers and entering Edge would go up to 221.68 per month. That's right up not down.
Knowing this, why would I give up unlimited
data?

Michael,
I am so tired of reading these Verizon forums, and seeing all these people who have been victimized by losing their unlimited data become Verizon's biggest defenders. Misery truly loves company. I don't care what they say, be it saving a few bucks for losing unlimited data (yet ignoring opportunity costs in keeping unlimited data OR even leveraging the unlimited data in other ways by utilizing "assumption of liability"), or praying for this magical day of July, 2014 when we're all supposed to lose unlimited data (which is complete and utter nonsense, forget speculation.) I thought that Verizon was supposed to be the one providing us a service, and not the other way around...though I suppose the Stockholm Syndrome folks enjoy that, I guess.
Problem is there doesn't appear to be many people who have unlimited data offering information that would help people like us KEEP unlimited data; all it is are these people inundating these forums with misinformation and misery about losing unlimited data.
So I will just tell you what I did to upgrade and hope that points you in the right direction.
Recently, I did use the Device Payment Plan (different from Edge, which sounds like utter garbage) to get a Note 2. 700 divided by 12 plus $24 total. I figured why not; anything to get off this Samsung Droid Charge. Now, I am utilizing the alternate upgrade method, which allows me to upgrade a basic phone in my plan and switch that phone to the line with the Note 2, which I then will give the Note 2 to the wife, who also has an unlimited data plan. I probably should have done this earlier, but I initially thought it'd be too much work. However, after I did the math, even after activation fees and such, I still get a better phone at a better price than if I Device Payment Plan'ed it.
I will let you know how it goes...I have three unlimited data plans that I can do a "transfer only" to get the hot new phones, and I plan on using anyone of them. And despite what some of you Verizon apologists say, I do not lose unlimited data when I transfer an upgrade to another line, which apparently, I can do THREE times...
I am just sick and tired of seeing these people inundate folks with such bad information. Since this is a peer-to-peer forum where Verizon customers help each other, I figure let me help my fellow Verizon customers SAVE their unlimited data and also help lead in the ignoring of these bitter haters who just want other people to be miserable by having you lose your unlimited data plan.

Has anyone here gotten any notification from VZW that tiered data plans are coming on July 7?

I have heard on the internet, as well as my TV local newscast, but not once have I gotten an email, text, phone call or postcard in the mail that there will be tiered data plans beginning 7/7/11. I am not one to complain about vzw, but I have to say something here; this is to say the least pi** poor customer service. Here we are t minus 6 days and counting, and I haven't heard one peep from VZW. I hate to think that they are trying to catch people off guard with tiered data, but their silence just reinforces that fact.

jimfitzgerald wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for Verizon to notify current customers who are under contract. Anyone who shops for a new contract will know what their options are and what the prices are.
That actually makes a lot of sense!

The global data plan is a scam.

Bottom line of the story: Your Verizon phone will not work at all either in Europe or in South America.
I called three months ago to ask Verizon if I was going to be able to make phone calls in China. Without asking me, I was added against my consent to the global data plan. When I found out about it reading my next bill, I thought it might be a good thing. After all, I was about to go to Germany and Argentina and it would be nice to have data there. So, I thought of keeping it. However, the plan doesn't work. In fact, the phone doesn't even make regular phone calls in any country except USA, Canada, Mexico, China, India, Israel and a few more. It won't work anywhere in Europe or in South America. The problem is that Verizon phones are CDMA, which is a technology which was fully replaced by GSM in most countries. So, your regular Verizon phone will not work almost anywhere. You could get a special GSM phone for your trips. But besides being a nuisance, it was something I wasn't aware since I didn't even request the service.
How did my story finish? I asked for a refund for the $100 I payed for the three months I was in the plan (somehow I was charged double the first month). I was given $25 back only. I payed $75 and I didn't get a single byte of downloaded data in exchange. I'm switching to either AT&T or T-Mobile next month.

commonsense101 wrote:
Best advice I can give any traveler is buy a cheap prepaid phone when you get to your destination
It will save you so much money and so many headaches
That's not bad advice, but if you travel a lot, it makes sense to get a global-capable phone and use local SIMs. That way you get cheap rates but can still use all your nice data features, such as Google Navigation. Until the latest crop of ICS LTE phones, you would need to ask Verizon for an unlock code to use a local SIM. Currently, at least, these phones work without an unlock.
You do have to be careful though, prevent your phone connecting until you replace the SIM with a local one, to avoid data charges simply caused by the phone syncing with email, Play store/Apple Store etc.

Data plan! why??? whats the difference of me using Wifi or being charged for a data plan?

Feature phones iterally suck, even the internet pro reviews on the phones are very low and most of the feature phones that are reviewed the reviewer gives their last comment as "don't buy" .
I do not need a data plan, ( I carry either a Verizon netbook or a notebook for all my internet needs) nor am I comfortable with the charge of a data plan being necessary or is this simply another way for a large company with a large profit margin to stick it to the consumer knowing we have to maintain a cell phone in this day and age?.
I had settled on the KinTwo, the reviews are not glowing but .... r not that horrible either. It is also the only phone which gives the owner WiFi accessibility. (which makes me wonder if this is the reason Verizon has pulled it off the market). From my extensive research the KinTwo is the only feature phone choice. But..... When I went back to the site to order it was gone, and the VW stores do not carry it.
UGH> I am so discouraged by the data plans and the extremely high price. Would someone please tell me what the difference is in my using my Netbook, laptop (notebook) on WiFi and not being charged a data fee? Or why I can bring Wireless Internet into my home and have all my WiFi accessible electronics connect through my main ISP with an additional fee for each WiFi user???? But I am not able to use a Smartphone this way???
I am serious about these data plans are they necessary????

once upon a time verizon did not require data plans
many users were happy
but t h is did not last for users started having problems with thier hands
they would often hit the wrong buttons and use data
sometims as little as a mb, sometimes many mb
verizon forums and customer service started recieving phone calls to get credits for this usage
after all its not the users fault is it? i mean are they responsible if they had the phone to a 2 year old to play with and the kid brings up the browser?
so verizon decided it was in its best interest to protect its users. they started requireing data plans so you wouldnt get hit with huge bills for being an idiot.
So if you wanna cry about data plans blame all those people out there that complained

Installment plan - Plans are scheduled and not paid , extend to other cust.

Hi Masters,
Please clarify and suggest on Installment plan.
We have query in Auto industry , where the customer buys the vehicle on installment basis ,and the installment plan is for 2 years . The customer pays regularly for 1 year and after an year , the customer is not paying the installment.
There are two sceanarios .
1.Installments not paid , how to close the instalment plan and how the payment procedure is closed
2.if some other cusotmer want to buy the same used vehicle how can the instalment plan can be extended the other customer.
Thanks in Advance,
Awaiting for your inputs.
Rakesh

You are addressing issues that are not for this forum. This is a user to user support forum. Your comments are not being directed to anyone at RIM.
Even if this was a direct to RIM forum what your carrier charges for a data plan and what data plans are available is beyond RIMs control. Your issue is with your carrier in particular and Indian carriers in general.
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Data plans available for macs

HI, what data plans are available for macs so that I can get internet access when none is available? Also, are any of these month to month??? Thank you!

Contact your local cell phone provider. Apple doesn't provide data plans.

VZ iphone: Data plans? wifi?

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How does the data plan work? If I go to a fancy website, or if someone sends a large image in an email, it eats at the amount of data I'm alloted?
Can iPhone work on Wifi? I most often use my iPod Touch at home, via Wifi and I'm happy to continue doing that, only using the 3G when I'm out and about. Is that resonable?

I thought I saw an unlimited data plan for $30 per month. Is that on top of the phone plan? How much would that be?
The chosen data plan if more than one data plan is available to choose from including an unlimited data plan, this is in addition to and on top of your chosen calling and messaging plan. More than likely Verizon will not have special calling plans just for the iPhone. As with AT&T, more than likely you choose from any of Verizon's standard calling plans which are the same regardless the phone, and your chosen messaging plan and data plan are in addition to and on top of your chosen calling plan.
How does the data plan work? If I go to a fancy website, or if someone sends a large image in an email, it eats at the amount of data I'm alloted?
When connected to Verizon's cellular network for internet access, yes, and only if you choose a data plan that is not unlimited if such a data plan will be available. If you choose the unlimited data plan, no, but even the unlimited data plan has a limit - 5GB per month I believe, which would be difficult to exceed or come close to in a month.
Can iPhone work on Wifi? I most often use my iPod Touch at home, via Wifi and I'm happy to continue doing that, only using the 3G when I'm out and about.
Yes.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
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New tiered data plans suck

I just wanted to vent my feelings about this ridiculous change. I filed a complaint with the FCC as well and urging any VZW users I know to do the same. This has got to stop at some point and I've about taken all the crap I can from big business.
I feel I need to mention that I average way less than 1GB of usage per month. The problems with your "tiered" data are that:
It doesn't cost us any less and there aren't any cheaper options. In fact, it's a price increase in disguise. It's hard to swallow when the price of bandwidth and transport costs continue to decline yet we are shafted with price increases.
If you are going to charge me for 2GB of data then give me my 2GB. If I only use 1GB then roll the other 1GB over. After all, I did pay for that bandwidth. Your 2GB tier over the course of a year is 24GB. If I average just 12GB but went over the 2GB for just one month, I will get hit with an overage charge. I am just not sure how this is fair to me as a consumer and how anyone can even justifty this.
If you want to do away with "unlimited" plans then just charge for what is actually used. But then, of course, I'll only be paying for the data that I use and not donating money for the data I don't use. I don't understand why Verizon thinks it's OK to rip off customers like that.
I used to have nothing but praise for "Big Red". Lately though, I've had nothing good to say. You guys have done away with the New Every 2 loyalty perks, introduced garbage tiered data plans that aren't even competive and various other things. The excuse to justify all of this is something along the lines of "Everyone else is doing it". Assuming that point is valid (I don't believe it is), you should leave well enough alone to keep yourselves distinguished from everyone else. Instead you're lowering yourselves to the same subpar standard as the others.

BigPete wrote:
I just wanted to vent my feelings about this ridiculous change. I filed a complaint with the FCC as well and urging any VZW users I know to do the same. This has got to stop at some point and I've about taken all the crap I can from big business.
I feel I need to mention that I average way less than 1GB of usage per month. The problems with your "tiered" data are that:
It doesn't cost us any less and there aren't any cheaper options. In fact, it's a price increase in disguise. It's hard to swallow when the price of bandwidth and transport costs continue to decline yet we are shafted with price increases.This may be true on a per MB charge, but even if the cost per MB drops, that doesn't mean that the total cost of data is dropping. If the cost per MB drops by 50%, but you then use a 5 times as much data, the total cost of the data has in fact increased 2 and a half times. I'm not saying this is the actual decrease in cost per MB or the actual increase in the amount of data for the average user, but ALL reports for data usage have said they are increasing at the same time that the cost per MB is decreasing. This is just to show that the TOTAL cost of the data isn't necessarily decreasing.
If you are going to charge me for 2GB of data then give me my 2GB. If I only use 1GB then roll the other 1GB over. After all, I did pay for that bandwidth. Your 2GB tier over the course of a year is 24GB. If I average just 12GB but went over the 2GB for just one month, I will get hit with an overage charge. I am just not sure how this is fair to me as a consumer and how anyone can even justifty this.They don't give you roll-over minutes, I doubt they will start giving you roll-over data. Especially when the company that DOES give you roll-over minutes DOES NOT give you roll-over data.
If you want to do away with "unlimited" plans then just charge for what is actually used. But then, of course, I'll only be paying for the data that I use and not donating money for the data I don't use. I don't understand why Verizon thinks it's OK to rip off customers like that.This is exactly what the tiered data plans are doing, they just are doing it in a way similar to the minutes levels. There are 3 levels on data plans. With the minute plans there are 3 levels and an additional level for unlimited.
I used to have nothing but praise for "Big Red". Lately though, I've had nothing good to say. You guys have done away with the New Every 2 loyalty perks, introduced garbage tiered data plans that aren't even competive and various other things. The excuse to justify all of this is something along the lines of "Everyone else is doing it". Assuming that point is valid (I don't believe it is), you should leave well enough alone to keep yourselves distinguished from everyone else. Instead you're lowering yourselves to the same subpar standard as the others.

Z10 on a normal data plan (not BIS)

After researching whether the Z10 operates on a normal data plan and not a BIS, and of course it worked perfectly on Wi-Fi without a SIM card, just wanted to make sure it is compatible with a normal cellular data plan, I went for it yesterday, and yes, everything worked except for BBM, heck the BlackBerry logo disappeared from the home screen. I contacted my carrier, and they shocked me, they told me it is not possible not to have a BIS with the Z10, and they were surprised I was able to browse the net and send/recieve emails, and they said they cannot support me!!
So why did I do this? A normal data plan is cheaper here in the UAE, my canceled BIS gave me 500Mb for 79AED, and the normal data plan gives me 1Gb for 50AED. Is there any workaround for this before I revert back?
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Welcome to the BlackBerry Support Community Forums.
Thanks for the question.
BlackBerry 10 smartphones require a normal data plan from your network service provider. However the network service provider must support BlackBerry 10, if not some BlackBerry services will not work.
Also BIS data plans are not available for BlackBerry 10 smartphones.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
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Planning area data not matching with backup cube / PSA

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Pls its urgent.
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make sure you have replicated the extraction of the data source. This is needed to ensure your backup cube gets the current data as in the planning area
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User is uploading a flat file using addon program to an infocube 1, from this infocube data for sales forecast KF is getting transferred to a planning area KF using standard program RTS_INPUT_CUBE. I can see the updated data in Planning book (which refer the same planning area) data views. In planning book the sales forecast data is also getting copyied to second KF 'Arrangement FC' and its correct.
Now there is a infocube 2 (second) which is getting data directly from this planning area (infocube also contains both KFs). But When i checked this infocube 2 , the updated data is availabe in Sales forecast KF , but arrangement forecast KF is having old data only and user is running query on second KF , so he is getting wrong report.
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I have also found the datasource for this planning area but don't know how to move further to find why data is not updating properly? Please help on this.
I have information that 2 weeks before data was properly updated, but this time data is not updated,
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RE : BI APO Question Reg Data feeding from cube to Planning area.

Hi BW Experts,
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For that I have taken historical data as a flat file and loaded it in to the external BW Infocube and its fine...
Second step I have created generate export datasource on topr of BW infocube and replicated in to Bw and used this export datasource as datasource for APO BW Infocube which is inbulit BW System from External Bw..
also I have created tranformations and data is loaded in the BW cube in APO system.Also Included Version charecterstics..
When I try to fed the APO Cube data to planning area Iam gettinga the following warning itsnot an error:
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*2.No data exists for the selection made (see long text*
Diagnosis:Data could not be loaded from the Cube for the selection you made. Check whether the Cube actually contains data that is relevant for your selection.
For the second point I have time charecterstics filled in the infocube which Iam feding to a Planning area like 0CALMONTH,0CALWEEK,FiscVarnt,0CALMONTH
3.Characteristic assignment: No data copied --- Message
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Hi,
As I understood, you have loaded data from external BW cube to APO BW cube and now loading planning area from APO BW cube.
I hope your settings in /SAPAPO/TSCUBE transaction code would be correct and you have selected the correct planning version with correct cube.
Check if Data in APO BW cube is available for reporting or not and data is avilable for given selction (if any but I guess you are not giving any).
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S

Loading data from Cube to Planning area

Hi,
If I am loading data from a cube to a planning area using transaction TSCUBE,
does the system load data into planning area for the combinations that exist in the cube or does it load for all CVCs?
For example,
I have my CVC as Plant, Material, Customer
If there are 4 CVCs in the POS that were previously generated as
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01--M1--
C1
01--M2--
C3
01--M2--
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10
01--M2C3--
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is the data loaded as
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C1--
10
01--M2C3--
20
01--M2C2--
5
Only for the 3 combinations that exist in the cube and not load anything for the last one
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Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C1--
10
01--M2C3--
20
01--M2C2--
5
01--M4C5--
0
Load all 4 combinations and send 0 as the cube doesnot have this combination?
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Thanks.

Thanks a lot Vinod, Srinivas and Harish. The reason why I am asking you is that we have a scenario where we get this situation.
We initially get data from R/3 to BW to APO like the below:
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C1--
10
Later when the customer is changed or bought out by somebody C1 is changed to C2. Some times when the business doesnot know who the customer is initially they just put C1 as dummy and then after sometime replace it by C2. Then the new record coming in is as follows:
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C2--
10
BW can identify changes in transaction data but not in Master data. What I mean by this is when Qty. 10 changes from 10 to 20, the system can identify it in deltas.
If the customer (master data) changes to C2 from C1, the system thinks it's a new record all together then if I use delta loads, it gets me the following:
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C1--
10
01--M1C2--
10
If I am looking at Plant and Material Level, my data is doubled.
So we are planning to do a full load that works like this:
1. Initial data like the below:
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C1--
10
The CVC is created and the planning area has Qty.10
Then we delete the contents of cube and do a full load into the cube with changed customer
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C2--
10
This time a new CVC is created. Then we have another 10 loaded into Planning area.
If the system loads all CVCs, then the it would send
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C1--
0
01--M1C1--
10
If the system loads only combinations in cube,
then it loads
Plant--MaterialCustomer----Qty.
01--M1C2--
10
But the system already has another 10 for Customer C1 duplicating the values.
We are trouble in the second case.
We had to go fr this solution instead of realignment as our business has no way pf knowing that C1 was replaced by C2.
Hope I am clear.

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