Data staging in APO BW

We are now running SCM 4.1 which has BW 3.5 and are currently using a external BW system for data staging before pulling it over into APO.
Are there any consequences to doing the data staging on the APO BW side itself without using an external BW system? We can still use the external BW system for Reporting.

without BW if you do APO/BW directly and then you use BW for reportiing the data will not be in sync.

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Difference between Data staging and Dimension Table ?

Difference between Data staging and Dimension Table ?

Data Staging:
Data extraction and transformation is done here.
Meaning that, if we have source data in flat file, we extract it and load into staging tables, we take care of nulls, we change datetime format etc.. and after such cleansing/transformation at then end, load it to Dim/Fact tables
Pros: Makes process simpler and easy and also we can keep track of data as we have data in staging
Cons: Staging tables need space hence need memory space
Dimension Table:
tables which describes/stores the attribute about specific objects
Below is star schema which has dimension storing information related to Product, Customer etc..
-Vaibhav Chaudhari

Joining head- and item- records during data-staging

Hi experts,
I've got the following scenario:
I get data from 2 datasources, one (myds_h) provides documents-heads and the other one provides document-items (myds_i).
Unfortunately the myds_i-DataSource does not contain the head-fields (but foreign-key-fields with the reference to the head).
For the reporting I'd like to provide item-level data containing the document-head-information as well.
Which point of the data-staging in the BW-system would you recommend for doing this join?
Maybe some options:
a) I could enhance the myds_i-DataSource and do the join in the source-system.
b) I could enhance the item-data using the transformation between the item-PSA and an item-ODS.
c) I could enhance the item-data using a transformation between an item-ODS and an additional item/head-ods
d) I could enhance the item-data using the transformation between the item-ODS and the final InfoCube.
e) I could use an Analysis-Process-Chain and an InfoSet instead of the above mentioned transformations.
Thanks for your comments and input in advance!
Best regards,
Marco
Edited by: Marco Simon on Feb 13, 2012 3:52 PM - inserted one option.

Hello Marco,
In your solution a) to d), you will have some delta pb. If header data modification can occur without any modification on the items, you will lose some header modification in your item DSO.
The easiest solution will probably be to handle the header data as a masterdata (header data as attributes of this masterdata), Header data will then be available with your item data. This solution may cause some performance problem if you have a lot of headers.
Another solution will be to build a transformation between you header DSO and your item DSO (every header modification will modify all items of the header). This will bring some ABAP
Regards,
Fred

Difference bw the data staging of generic and appli specefic data sources

Hi,
Can anyone tell the difference between data staging of generic and appl specific data sources. Like we know that LO data stage in queued delta, update queue and BW delta queue, i want to know actually where the generic data stages before it is loaded into BW.
Thanks.

Generic data sources are based on either a DB table/view, a function module or an ABAP query. So normally the data stages in the corresponding DB tables or you calculate it at extraction time. There is no update queue like in LO.
Best regards
Dirk

Master Data Loading from APO--- BW System

Hi Experts,
I am loading master data from the APO to bW System,after loading data into the BW System ,I found the number of data records are mismatching
ex:APO (8340) --->BW (9445)
and that to I tried to delet the data in InfoObject,
only some records are deleting
and one more doubt
in APO i have info object ZA9MATNR CHAR 40
With Conversion Routine PRODU
in BW i have the same info object ZA9MATNR CHAR 40 with Conversion Routine ALPHA.
and I have checked the Check box in transfer rules also,may be becoz of this I am getting more records.
Could any body help me
Thanks in Advance...
Regards,
Nagamani.

Hi,
Ideally it is impossible to get the increased count of data records when you load it into BW unless you are using the RETURN TABLE concept.
Normally the record count decreases with the records with same keys gets overwritten/added.
Coming to your second question, ALPHA conversion routine has nothing to do with the record count. It appends the ZEROS to the value coming in that InfoObject. For example, if the lenght of the object is 5 and data is coming only in 3 digits, it will append the ZEROS to make its length 5.
Hope this info helps you.
Regards,
Yogesh.

Replication of Data Source from APO to External BI

Hi Experts,
I want to create a data source on DP/SNP planning area & replicate it directly to External BI instead of APO BW. Is it possible to replicate data source from APO to directly External BI? If yes then How?
Regards
Sujay

Hi Sujay,
If you would like to replciate a particular Data source then Go to BW -> TCode RSDS ( Data source Repository)
Data Source = ( specify which you would like to replciate )
Source system = Specify source system name.
Go to Menu option Data Source -> Replicate Data source or you can use CTRL + SHIFT + F2
These steps will replicate only the data source which you would like to replicate.
Thanks,
Siva.

Data extraction from APO

Hi All,
We have a requirement to get the data extracted from APO DP,SNP and load it to S&OP. I tried to look into the following and was not successful.
1) 9ABPC _Extract
How to extract the data with extractor lie listed above. Any information on this is appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Sanjeev

Hi USERPV ,
Change the aggregation level(by removing some characteristics) so that number of records will change.
Thanks,
viajy.

Transferring Product Master Data Changes From APO to ECC/R/3

Is it possible to transfer product master data changes in APO to ECC via the CIF? If so, does it require custom coding?

Hi James,
In all the different clients where APO is being used with ECC systems. ECC system is always the main system (system of record) which contains all the master data and data present in ECC supposed to be the reference for APO system for planning purpose.
Generally it is not recommended to transfer master data from APO to ECC but as mentioned earlier by some experts you may have ways to do that.
I would be interested in the business scenario where one needs to transfer master data from APO to ECC.
Thanks,
Anupam
Edited by: Anupam Sengar on Aug 11, 2011 12:31 AM

Automated data load from APO to SEM transactional cube

Hi ,
We have BW-SEM system integrated with APO system.
I could see automated data loads from APO to SEM transactional cube ..
Infopackage name as "Request loaded using the APO interface without monitor log" ..
I don't see any infopackage by this name in both the systems ( APO & SEM )..
I am not sure how it configured ..
Appreciate any inputs on how its happens .....
Thanks in advance

Hi,
As I mentioned the starting point will be the tcode BPS0. There will be 2 planning areas created (if I am correct) one for SEM cube and the other for APO cube. The better way to find it will be goto tcode se16 and enter UPC_BW_AREA and key in the cube names in the cube field. this will give you the planning area names now look for a multiplanning area which has the 2 areas included in them (this is available in table UPC_AREAM).
then goto BPS0 and you will have to find which function is being used to post the data.
thanks

SNP planned order availability date difference between APO and ECC

Hi,
I have observed that SNP Planned order availability date is not matching between APO and ECC. Details are as follows.
I ran SNP Optimizer with bucket offset of 0.5. After publishing the optimizer created planned orders to ECC, only start date is matching.
Example:
I am using PDS as a source of supply.
Fixed production activity in SNP PDS is 1 day.
GR processing time: 3 day
After running optimizer planned order is created with dates explained below.
Start date/time: 09.05.2011 00:00:00
End date/time: 12.05.2011 23:59:59
Availability date: 16.05.2011 00:00:00
Because of bucket offset defined as 0.5 optimizer planned order availability is start of next monday.
After publishing this planned order to ECC dates on the planned order is as follows.
Start date: 09.05.2011
End date: 09.05.2011
Availability date: 12.05.2011
I have not maintained any scheduling margin key in ECC. Also if I dont define the GR processing time, planned dates between APO and ECC always match. Can anyone explain the impact of GR time on the availability date.
Regards,
Venkat

Hi Venkadesh,
What's "state stamp"? Do you mean different time zone?
note : 645597 mentioned by Nandha is very helpful:
In standard, CCR will use duedate - "the available date of the output product".
Nandha's words "In SAP APO, if the receipt date of the primary product deviates from the
end date of the last activity of the order, the receipt date
always identifies this as inconsistent. You cannot rectify
inconsistencies of this type by using CCR."
I guess in your PDS or PPM, the output product is not assigned to the End of the last activity. Someone changed it?
Please CIF the PDS or PPM again.
If you really want to apply a note, please use note 815509 as you're using planned order,
and system will use order end date in CCR instead.
GR time is always considered. BR/Tiemin

Master data extraction from APO BW to BW BW

Hi Gurus,
I am having a task to extract data from Demand Planning Infocube in APO BW to the Custom Infocube in BW-BW. My question is how do we get the master data (texts and Attributes) for APO-Material and APO-Location (Plant in BW) from APO BW to BW-BW. Any insight into this please.....

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PPDS production order dates mismatch between APO and R3

Hi Friends,
We are facing one problem regarding production order date mish match between R3 and APO systems specific to a product.
The product is planned in PPDS and the order automatically transfer to R3 through online CIF.
PPM has got two operations 0010 and 0020 and activity relationships are like this:
P(0010) - P(0020) Start - Start relation ship
S(0010) - P(0010) End - Start relationship.
In PPDS dates are shown as :
on operation 0010 the start/end dates are shown as 08.15.09 to 08.22.09
on operation 0020 the start/end dates are shown as 08.15.09 to 08.22.09
Overall order start date is 08.15.09
Overall order finish date is 08.22.09
and in R3 dates are shown as:
on operation 0010 the start/end date are shown as 08.15.09 to 08.22.09
on operation 0020 the start/end dates are shown as 08.22.09 to 08.29.09
Overall order start date is 08.15.09
Overall order finish date is 08.29.09
The order is off one week (APO vs R3) with start and finish dates.
if we change DS Board settings to ignore internal relationships manually then the dates are matching exactly in APO and R3.
We want the production order dates to be matched without manual intervention.
Could some one please provide some hints on what is happening here and how to correct it.
Thanks.
Krish

Hi Friends,
Thanks a lot for your valuable replies in this regard.
Actually this problem is in production environment and it took some time to test the problem with the master data modifications
you suggested.
As DB and Siddhrath mentioned, the problem was with routing definition. There is no parallel sequence maintained in the routing but there is start-start relation maintained in APO PPM.
We corrected the routing definition and checked the order dates. Now the dates are matching in R3 and APO.
I am awarding DB and Siddharth each five points in this regard.
Once again thank you all for your time and valuable replies.
-Regards
Krish.

Master Data Load to APO from SAP MDM through SAP PI

Hi SDners,
This is a Parts Master Data Solution for one of the Largest Auto Manufacturer where SAP MDM will be the central hub of all the Global and Local attributes of Parts . The subscribing system is SAP SCM APO . Please advice if there is any possibility of direct integration between APO -MDM through PI. Does PI has the standard IDOC types to communicate with APO.
Also does APO has some RFC/BAPI to do master data load for Product Master /n/sapapo/mat1
Thanks,
Prabuddha

Hi,
Check the LUWs in SM58 in source system and then execute it. Else check in BD87 and push the IDocs manually in ECC.
Thanks
Reddy
Edited by: Surendra Reddy on Feb 24, 2009 10:59 AM

Help regarding Scheduling date calculation in APO using Condition Technique

Hi Team,
The below is the issue I am facing. Could you please help me regarding this?
For a material MAT1, a stock of 15 is available today i.e. on 15/05/2014 and a Planned Order of 35 is available on 01/08/2014. I have created a Sales Order of 50 today i.e. 15/05/2014 for this material with a RDD of 20/05/2014. I have maintained the LEAD and the TRAN times as 5 days and 10 days respectively. These are maintained for a particular Route. LOAD, PICK, and UNLD are 0. In the Location master, I haven't defined any Calendar. So, it has to consider all days as working without any holidays.
For the given RDD of 20/05/2014, system performs the backward scheduling and arrives at a past date of 05/05/2014(20/05/2014-5D-10D) for the MBDAT. Since this date is in the past, the system should set the MBDAT to the current system date i.e. 15/05/2014. Since PICK is 0, the Loading Date also should be 15/05/2014. Since LOAD is 0, the Goods Issue Date also should be 15/05/2014. Since LEAD and TRAN are 5D and 10D, the Delivery Date should be 15/05/2014+5D+10D=30/05/2014.
But, in the Sales Order, I am getting a different date. For MBDAT, Loading Date, and Goods Issue date, the dates are 05/07/2014. Transportation Planning Date is 25/06/2014 and Delivery Date is 01.08.2014. During the GATP check, I am getting only a partial confirmation of 15 and the planned order of 35 is not being considered.
The material is APO relevant and the Scheduling using Condition Technique is being used.
Kindly help me regarding this and let me know if I am missing anything here.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Thanks & Regards,
Srikanth.

Hello Srikanth,
Let us differentiate the problem into two pieces.
1) Incorrect Scheduling
2) Future receipts not being considered.
For the second problem, future reciepts not being considered, which is on 01/08/2014, please check if your system is allowing you to go further and do the confirmation. How long is your Checking Horizon ? Is your checking horizon configured enough to go ahead and pick this reciept element to give the confirmation by creating a second schedule line ?
For the first problem, LEAD to the best of my knowledge is transportation planning time which means, the MBDAT would be shifted to the extent of the LEAD time to be able to manage the truck though the stock is available today. However, the dates mentioned by you seems to be completely different. Hence, I suggest you to take the ATP check on this line item, go to Delivery proposal screen and click on the graphical representation of the Scheduling results. There you should be able to understand how the calculation is actually happening. Perhaps, there are some calendars that are being used which you'd not be knowing ? May be the condition record has different times maintained in the condition table ? Check the condition table that the system is picking up ? May be you have maintained the route and transportation scheduling in "X" condition table, however system was able to identify a different detailed level table which satisfied the condition and due to which system got the scheduling calculated accordingly ?
May be it is a good idea to investigate this way. Hope this helps.
Babu Kilari

Schedule Dates changed by APO

Hi APO people
I have a problem in PP whereby the production order schedule dates are immediately overridden by the APO CIF. As a result no scheduling can be done. We are not using PP/DS for scheduling but a third party system. We have also tried using the Capacity Planning table in R/3 but the result is the same.
Is there some setting in APO which prevents this form happening.
In addition to this even trying to change basic dates manually is not possible. Occasionally if a re-read of PP master data is done on the order, dates are allowed to change but this appears to be inconsistent as sometimes it works and other times it doesnt.
Thanks for the help!

If the qty is not transmitted to the vendor using message transmission, system does not firm the qty with in planning time fence.
So pls chk your planning time fence as well.
Also pls chk the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/f4/7d2a5b44af11d182b40000e829fbfe/content.htm
BR,
Krishna

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