Database changes during pool pairing in lync 2013

Hi,
I am planning for pool pairing.Can anyone tell what all database get copied on bacup pool.Do we need extra storage for pairing.
will all previous lcscdr & lcslog get copied to backup pool?

According to my understanding, the database Lcscdr and Lcslog are not copied to backup pool.
The Backup Service is a data replication mechanism introduced in Lync Server 2013 that transfers user data and conference content between two paired Front End pools continuously across two data centers for disaster recovery purposes.
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