Database PSU/CPU and FMW CPUs

I have been hired to a new work place. there are the systems with the applications such Fusion Middleware11g (FMW) products -- OID, OAM, OIM, Portal and so on, and the Oracle databases as the backend which have the FMW applications' repositories installed in.
I notice that they have been applying only database PSU to the backend databases without any applications' CPUs along with for over a year. I think that we shall apply all the relevant Quarterly CPUs in the system, not just the database's PSU/CPU. The quarter's Database PSU/CPU require the same Quarter's FMW's CPUS because we have FMW's repositories resided in the databases. This kind of practice could have the potential issues because of the operational in-compatibilities within the system. They have ignored my advice, because they have not been experienced an issue yet for the practice. i know that sooner or later the issues will occur.
Please make your comments. Thanks.

Database PSUs are fine, as then contains CPUs as well. So from the database side issues may not occur but for applications we must apply CPUs.
Regards,
GP

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Means does it mean CPU's are cumulative.Please see this link.
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http://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan/2010/01/cumulative_ebs_cpu.html
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>
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Hi,
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How to kill Forms Runaway Process using 95% CPU and running for 2 hours.

We had a situation at E-Business Suite customer (using Oracle VM server) where some of Form processes were not being cleared by form timeout settings automatically.
Also when user exits the form session from front end, the linux form process (PID) and DB session did not exit properly, so they got hung.
They were spiking CPU and memory usage and causing e-business suite to perform slowely and ultimately causing VM host to reboot the production VM guest (running on Linux).
We could see the form processes (PIDs) using almost 100% cpu with "top" command and running for a long time.
Also we verified those Form Sessions did not exist in the application itself.
ie. Using from Grid Control -> OAM-> Site Map -> Monitoring (tab) -> "Form Sessions".
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•     If no process is found or CPU% is less than 95%, it exits and does nothing.
•     If top process is found, it searches for its DB session using apps login (with hidden apps password file - /home/applmgr/.pwd).
a.     If DB session is NOT found (which means form process is hung), it kills the process from unix and emails results to <[email protected]>
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It also emails the SQL to check the DB session for that form process.
c.     If DB session is found and it does not timeout after 2 hours,
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This are the files required for this;
1. Cron job which calls the shell script looks like this;
# Kill form runaway process, using over 95% cpu having no DB session or DB session for > 2hrs
00,30 * * * * /home/applmgr/forms_runaway.sh 2>&1
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select count(*) from v$session s , v$process p, FND_FORM_SESSIONS_V f where S.AUDSID=f.audsid and p.addr=s.paddr and s.process='&form_client_PID';
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# Author : Amandeep Singh
# Description : Kills runaway form processes using more than 95% cpu
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#!/bin/bash
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echo "`date`">/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "----------------------------------">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
VAR1=`top -b -u applmgr -n 1|grep f60webmx|grep -v sh|grep -v awk|grep -v top|sort -nrk9|head -2|sed 's/^[ \t]*//;s/[ \t]*$//'| awk '{ if ($9 > 95 && $12 = "f60webmx") print $1 " "$9 " "$11 " "$12; }'`
PID1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $1}'`
CPU1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $2}'`
TIME1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $3}'`
PROG1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $4}'`
PID_1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $5}'`
CPU_1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $6}'`
TIME_1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $7}'`
PROG_1=`echo $VAR1|awk '{print $8}'`
echo "PID1="$PID1", CPU%="$CPU1", Running Time="$TIME1", Program="$PROG1>>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "PID_1="$PID_1", CPU%="$CPU_1", Running Time="$TIME_1", Program="$PROG_1>>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo " ">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
sleep 120
echo "`date`">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "----------------------------------">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
VAR2=`top -b -u applmgr -n 1|grep f60webmx|grep -v sh|grep -v awk|grep -v top|sort -nrk9|head -2|sed 's/^[ \t]*//;s/[ \t]*$//'| awk '{ if ($9 > 95 && $12 = "f60webmx") print $1 " "$9 " "$11 " "$12; }'`
PID2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $1}'`
CPU2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $2}'`
TIME2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $3}'`
PROG2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $4}'`
PID_2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $5}'`
CPU_2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $6}'`
TIME_2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $7}'`
PROG_2=`echo $VAR2|awk '{print $8}'`
HRS=`echo $TIME1|cut -d: -f1`
exprHRS=`expr "$HRS"`
echo "PID2="$PID2", CPU%="$CPU2", Running Time="$TIME2", Program="$PROG2>>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "PID_2="$PID_2", CPU%="$CPU_2", Running Time="$TIME_2", Program="$PROG_2>>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo " ">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
# If PID1 or PID2 is NULL
if [ -z ${PID1} ] || [ -z ${PID2} ]
then
echo "no top processes found. Either PID is NULL OR CPU% is less than 95%. Exiting...">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
elif
# If PID1 is equal to PID2 or PID1=PID_2 or PID_1=PID2 or PID_1=PID_2
[ ${PID1} -eq ${PID2} ] || [ ${PID1} -eq ${PID_2} ] || [ ${PID_1} -eq ${PID2} ] || [ ${PID_1} -eq ${PID_2} ];
then
DB_SESSION=`$ORACLE_HOME/bin/sqlplus -S apps/$PWD @/home/applmgr/frm_runaway.sql $PID1 << EOF
EOF`
echo " ">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "DB_SESSION ="$DB_SESSION >>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
# if no DB session found for PID
if [ $DB_SESSION -eq 0 ] then
echo " ">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "Killed Following Runaway Forms Process:">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "-------------------------------------------------------------------">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "PID="$PID1", CPU%="$CPU1", Running Time="$TIME1", Program="$PROG1>>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
kill -9 $PID1
#Email the output
mailx -s "Killed: `hostname -a` Runaway Form Processes" [email protected] </tmp/runaway_forms.log
cat /tmp/runaway_forms.log
else
# If DB session exists for PID
if [ ${exprHRS} -gt 120 ]; then
echo $DB_SESSION "of Database sessions exist for this forms process-PID="$PID1". But its running for more than 2 hours. ">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "Process running time is "$exprHRS" minutes.">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "Killed Following Runaway Forms Process:">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "-------------------------------------------------------------------">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "PID="$PID1", CPU%="$CPU1", Running Time="$TIME1", Program="$PROG1>>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
kill -9 $PID1
#Email the output
mailx -s "`hostname -a`: Runaway Form Processes" [email protected] </tmp/runaway_forms.log
cat /tmp/runaway_forms.log
else
echo "Process running time is "$exprHRS" minutes.">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo $DB_SESSION "of Database sessions exist for PID="$PID1" and is less than 2 hours old. Not killing...">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "For more details on this PID, run following SQL query;">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "-----------------------------------------------------------------------">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "set pages 9999 lines 150">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "select f.user_form_name, f.user_name, p.spid DB_OS_ID , s.process client_os_id,, s.audsid, f.PROCESS_SPID Forms_SPID,">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "to_char(s.logon_time,'DD-Mon-YY hh:mi:ss'), s.seconds_in_wait">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "from v\$session s , v\$process p, FND_FORM_SESSIONS_V f">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
echo "where S.AUDSID=f.audsid and p.addr=s.paddr and s.process='"$PID1"' order by p.spid;">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
mailx -s "`hostname -a`: Runaway Form Processes" [email protected] </tmp/runaway_forms.log
cat /tmp/runaway_forms.log
fi
fi
else
#if PID1 and PID2 are not equal or CPU% is less than 95%.
echo "No unique CPU hogging form processes found. Exiting...">>/tmp/runaway_forms.log
cat /tmp/runaway_forms.log
fi
If you have the same problem with some other unix and DB processes, the script can be easily modified and used.
But use this with thorough testing first (by commenting out <kill -9 $PID1> lines.
Good luck.
Edited by: R12_AppsDBA on 19/04/2012 13:10

Thanks for sharing the script!
Hussein

CPU and GPU slow down after system upgrade

Ok, I can't find anything similar to the question I have...but this forum goes on forever
As my system specs appear below, my machine was running quite comfortably a week ago, with same setup...minus the acrylic case and second 120GB hard drive.
At that stage I had "nomal" benchmarking scores 3dmark03 - 5850, Aquamark3 41.000, PC mark 2002 - cpu7020 mem8438 hdd1050.
Life was good and I loved my system
Then I decided it would be cool to upgrade to an acrylic case (which has better cooling with 3 fans) and a second 120 GB HDD to make a striped raid array.
My first concern was the raid Array. I was carefull to buy the exact same seagate hard drive, size etc. the original was only a month old anyway. The second was to use the intel southbridge chip for SATA RAID or the Promise controller? After researching these forums I decided to go with the Intel as it has more possible bandwidth and doesn't sit on the PCI bus.
I got the new case and wearing those stupid white gloves, proceeded to move the components over and trash my "old" metal case.
The windows NTFS format (full) flew by in 30 seconds and I was really impressed.
Once windows xp and all it's drivers and updates were installed, incl sound and graphics etc. I did a 3Dmark 2001 test before upgrading to Dx9...what a bad mark! 3Dmark2001SE - 9950 (terrible for this system).
I thought it was a DX problem...so I installed Dx9
Then opened that corecenter program (the old one, the one that doesn't crash...)
and my CPU was about 5c hotter than usual, it was running at 40-42c (I have standard intel cooling fan). It went up to 55 at times when running PC mark 2002.
This didn't concern me too much a the system was stable at 32-34c and the northbridge read 60c (but we all know that's not true , more like 35ish.
My PC mark 2002 is now cpu4200 - mem4800 - hdd1800
(at least the HDD improved!) LOL
I ran Aquamark3 next...29,900 (ouch!)
Previously my CPU was 8,700 and GPU was 5300
now the CPU read 4400 and the GPU 4600
I don't really notice the speed loss when working, but games and benchmarks tell a different story.
So, My question: What has happened? Why is my CPU power cut in half? and the graphics card slightly slower? The memory speed stayed the same and the HDD speed improved....not a worthwhile upgrade IMO
What went wrong?
Here are my theories.
1) The CPU and system case is getting too hot
Does the CPU "throttle" when it overheats? this could be the reason.
Also both HDD get really hot and the fan in front blows air over them, this hot air could be going over the CPU or GPU. Maybe get 2 HDD coolers?
should I buy a better CPU cooler like the Thermaltake spark7+ ?
2) The PSU does not have enough watts
I couldn't find traces of voltage lack or spikes...but it could still be a problem
3) The RAID0 array is a strain on the CPU and chipset
I'm not sure about this.
My appologies for the lengthy thread, but I wanted to be sure that anyone trying to figure this out had as much info as possible
Thanks if u can help me figure this out.

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Originally posted by Reaver
When I originally installed the intel p4 cooler, I used artic silver ceramique paste...and the CPU temp operates at 36-38c with no load.
Perhaps I should upgrade the overall cooling. Get a Thermaltake copper fan and two HDD coolers.
Well, your temps sound allright, no need to worry them, if they really operate at that level.
Quote
The solution to set the FSB to 201Mhz sounds good. But do I set this in the BIOS or with Corecenter in windoze?
Propably meant to adust your FSB at BIOS, at least that is what I would suggest.
Quote
I will try to re-install the VGA drivers because something strange DID happen when I first installed them. I started with the hercules driver CD, this installed CAT 3.2 drivers. I then upgraded to CAT 3.7 and before it completed I got an error window (send, dont send).
Remove drivers AND ATI control panel first, and then re-install. Use drivers from ATI site, and rather Catalyst 3.7. I Have had problems with 3.8 Catalysts.
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Still wouldn't explain why the CPU seems so crippled. I have managed to get a "normal cpu score of 7000+ in PCmark2002 by shutting down, restarting later and killing every process except explorer.
Do you have any processes that seem to eat more juice thant hey should? Arrange your processes by CPU usage and see if there is something strange.
Quote
If this cant be fixed I will reinstall over the weekend. Does anyone know of the RAID0 array on the southbridge causing a system slowdown?
I'm using Intel RAID and it works perfectly, no extra CPU usage is shown and it's pleasantly fast!
And Install latest Intel INF updates and Application Accelerator from Intel site. That's what I'm using, and works fine.

Psu calculator and some load test

while reading a thread I found this psu calculator link on a moderators sig. it seems so good i had to copy it. I had seen this once before from a magazine link but had forgotten it.
http://www.adecy.com/psu/.
also i got some power loads for the guide from herehttp://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040414/geforce_6800-19.html
it would seem that the watts i listed for the vid card seems a little high
now that I re-read it i am guessing that those loads include increased mem,and cpu use as well, but i also noticed there was a big diff in diff cards...
but elsewhere on the site they listed ati9700 as about 50 watts ,nvida 5700 ultra at 75watts, and 6800 at 125 watts.

also i have seen 12A listed at what the cpu uses, however i got a post that said it was more like 7.5A,...anybody know
is the 12A score powering mobo, onboard stuff, cpu, and mem. and if mem how much, as it is 3.3v and 16watts per 128.....
I would like to update the guide if the info in it is wrong.
I ran the calculator for my stats, .....scary
close to what i came up with on paper, hence the 600watt psu
Recommended PSU: 597W (320W on +3.3v & +5v rails) for:
-1 x Motherboard without onboard devices
-8 x Fans (including PSU fans)
-8 x Memory (128MB DDR)
-1 x Graphic Card
-1 x with powerful 3D Accelerator
-1 x PCI Sound
-1 x PCI Network Card
-5 x HDD
-3 x CD-RW
-1 x Floppy
-1 x Keyboard
-2 x Mouse
-3 x FireWire
-CPU: AMD K8 2.0 GHz Athlon 64 with 1,024 KB L2 Cache @ 1.50 V

Mds process shoots up CPU and Memory

I upgraded to OS X Mavericks about a month ago and ever since, have had to disable Spotlight due to shooting CPU and Memory. The only way to get my Mac to a usable state is to add Macintosh HD to Spotlight privacy list to prevent indexing. The moment I do that, CPU and Memory get to normal.
Here is what Memory/CPU looks when I am doing nothing on my Mac and all apps are closed:
mds
1.76 GB
6
195
349
root
100.2
42.25
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
No
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
kernel_task
598.3 MB
93
0
0
root
1.7
17.61
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
com.apple.IconServicesAgent
116.1 MB
2
65
214
RockingVegan
0.0
0.80
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
Yes
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
Finder
85.5 MB
6
296
165
RockingVegan
0.0
5.99
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
Yes
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
WindowServer
57.0 MB
5
297
112
_windowserver
0.7
9.27
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
CVMCompiler
48.3 MB
2
38
233
RockingVegan
0.0
5.06
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
No
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
mds_stores
34.9 MB
3
60
248
root
0.0
7.16
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
No
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
mdworker
32.9 MB
4
62
351
RockingVegan
0.0
3.81
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
Yes
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
mdworker
31.6 MB
4
62
354
RockingVegan
0.0
3.66
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
Yes
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
mdworker
31.4 MB
4
62
352
RockingVegan
0.0
3.68
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
Yes
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
mdworker
31.3 MB
4
62
353
RockingVegan
0.0
3.67
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
Yes
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
mds
100.1
1:07.13
8
1
349
root
2.31 GB
190
0 bytes
0 bytes
0
0
No
No
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
64 bit
No
Yes
0 bytes
0 bytes
0 bytes
Here is what EtreCheck shows: I cleaned up a bunch of stuff based on other such discussions. I see a bunch of User Launch Agents - I deleted these from /Library/User Agents - and rebooted, but these don't seem t go away from the list.
Hardware Information:
    MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2011)
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,2
    1 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4 cores
    8 GB RAM
Video Information:
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 512 MB
    AMD Radeon HD 6770M - VRAM: 1024 MB
Audio Plug-ins:
    BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9
    AirPlay: Version: 1.9 - SDK 10.9
    AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0 - SDK 10.9
    iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9
System Software:
    OS X 10.9.1 (13B42) - Uptime: 0 days 0:5:9
Disk Information:
    Hitachi HTS727575A9E362 disk0 : (750.16 GB)
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 749.3 GB (414.88 GB free)
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
    MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8
USB Information:
    Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
FireWire Information:
Thunderbolt Information:
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Kernel Extensions:
Problem System Launch Daemons:
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
Launch Agents:
User Launch Agents:
    [failed]    com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-[redacted]@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist
    [loaded]    com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher.plist
    [failed]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist
    [failed]    com.UninstallerTool.plist
    [failed]    com.VolumeWatcherTool.plist
User Login Items:
    None
3rd Party Preference Panes:
    Citrix online plug-in
    Flash Player
    Java
    MusicManager
Internet Plug-ins::
    Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
    AdobePDFViewer: Version: 10.1.2
    eMusicRemote: Version: (null)
    googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 4.9.1.16010
    SpeedDownload Browser Plugin: Version: 2.1.2
    iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
    AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin1017265: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17
    RealPlayer Plugin: Version: Unknown
    Veoh Plugin: Version: 3.0
    DirectorShockwave: Version: 12.0.7r148 - SDK 10.6
    QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
    PDF Browser Plugin: Version: 2.4.2 - SDK 10.6
    FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
    CitrixICAClientPlugIn: Version: 11.1.0
    AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17
    npgtpo3dautoplugin: Version: 0.1.44.29 - SDK 10.5
    DivXBrowserPlugin: Version: 2.2
    eMusic: Version: Unknown
    Silverlight: Version: 5.1.20913.0 - SDK 10.6
    Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.4.2
    o1dbrowserplugin: Version: 4.9.1.16010
    SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.6
    JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 45
User Internet Plug-ins::
    Move-Media-Player: Version: npmnqmp 071706000001
    iGetterBundle: Version: 2.8.5
    OctoshapeWeb: Version: 1.0
Bad Fonts:
    None
Old applications:
    Keynote:    Version: 5.3 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/iWork '09/Keynote.app
    Microsoft Alerts Daemon:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Alerts Daemon.app
    Microsoft Chart Converter:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Chart Converter.app
    Microsoft Clip Gallery:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Clip Gallery.app
    Microsoft Communicator:    Version: 13.1.3 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Communicator.app
    Microsoft Database Daemon:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Database Daemon.app
    Microsoft Database Utility:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Database Utility.app
    Microsoft Document Connection:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft Document Connection.app
    Microsoft Excel:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft Excel.app
    Microsoft Graph:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Graph.app
    Microsoft Language Register:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Additional Tools/Microsoft Language Register/Microsoft Language Register.app
    Microsoft Office Reminders:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Office Reminders.app
    Microsoft Office Setup Assistant:    Version: 14.2.0 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Office Setup Assistant.app
    Microsoft Outlook:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft Outlook.app
    Microsoft PowerPoint:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft PowerPoint.app
    Microsoft Upload Center:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Microsoft Upload Center.app
    Microsoft Word:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft Word.app
    Music Manager:    Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/MusicManager.app
    My Day:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/My Day.app
    Numbers:    Version: 2.3 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/iWork '09/Numbers.app
    Open XML for Excel:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Open XML for Excel.app
    Pages:    Version: 4.3 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/iWork '09/Pages.app
    Solver:    Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Add-Ins/Solver.app
    SyncServicesAgent:    Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5
        /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/SyncServicesAgent.app
Time Machine:
    Mobile backups: OFF
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 697.84 GB Disk used: 311.45 GB
    Destinations:
        Time Machine Backups [Local] (Last used)
        Total size: 931.19 GB
        Total number of backups: 14
        Oldest backup: 2012-06-30 03:15:51 +0000
        Last backup: 2013-12-18 22:18:59 +0000
        Size of backup disk: Too small
            Backup size 931.19 GB < (Disk used 311.45 GB X 3)
    Time Machine details may not be accurate.
    All volumes being backed up may not be listed.
Top Processes by CPU:
      100%    mds
        4%    WindowServer
        2%    Activity Monitor
        1%    EtreCheck
        0%    sysmond
Top Processes by Memory:
    4.40 GB    mds
    115 MB    Finder
    115 MB    com.apple.IconServicesAgent
    66 MB    mds_stores
    57 MB    WindowServer
Virtual Memory Statistics:
    14 MB    Free RAM
    2.79 GB    Active RAM
    2.78 GB    Inactive RAM
    1.18 GB    Wired RAM
    274 MB    Page-ins
    104 KB    Page-outs

Step 1:
Loaded extrinsic user agents:
com.growl.GrowlLauncher
com.stellar.VolumeWatcher
com.stellar.UninstallerTool
com.spotify.webhelper
com.macpaw.CleanMyMac.trashSizeWatcher
Safari extensions:
DivXHTML5
Searchme
Restricted user files: 53
Extrinsic loadable bundles:
/System/Library/Extensions/2.2.0/Belcarra.USBLAN_netpart.kext (com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_netpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/2.2.0/Belcarra.USBLAN_usbpart.kext (com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_usbpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/2.2.0/RemoteControl.USBLAN_usbpart.kext (com.RemoteControl.USBLAN.usbpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/3.1.1/Belcarra.USBLAN_netpart.kext (com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_netpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/3.1.1/Belcarra.USBLAN_usbpart.kext (com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_usbpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/3.1.1/RemoteControl.USBLAN_usbpart.kext (com.RemoteControl.USBLAN.usbpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/Belcarra.USBLAN_netpart.kext (com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_netpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/Belcarra.USBLAN_usbpart.kext (com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_usbpart)
/System/Library/Extensions/daspi.kext (com.makemkv.kext.daspi)
/System/Library/Extensions/iavkfs.kext (com.pctools.iantivirus.kfs)
/System/Library/Extensions/RemoteControl.USBLAN_usbpart.kext (com.RemoteControl.USBLAN.usbpart)
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins/SkypeABDialer.bundle (com.skype.skypeabdialer)
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins/SkypeABSMS.bundle (com.skype.skypeabsms)
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins/YMsgrCallABPlugin.bundle (com.yahoo.YMsgrCallABPlugin)
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins/YMsgrMsnABPlugin.bundle (com.yahoo.YMsgrMsnABPlugin)
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins/YMsgrSmsABPlugin.bundle (com.yahoo.YMsgrSmsABPlugin)
Library/Address Book Plug-Ins/YMsgrYimABPlugin.bundle (com.yahoo.YMsgrYimABPlugin)
Library/Internet Plug-Ins/iGetterBundle.plugin (com.presenta.iGetterBundle)
Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Move-Media-Player.plugin (com.movenetworks.movemediaplayer.plugin)
Library/Internet Plug-Ins/OctoshapeWeb.plugin (com.octoshape.browserplugin)
Library/PreferencePanes/MusicManager.prefPane (com.google.musicmanager.pref)
Library/Services/ToastIt.service (com.roxio.ToastItService)
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Need info about CPU and HDD for Tecra 8200

Hi Guys im new and have just bought the above laptop. However i want a faster CPU and bigger Harddrive (10GIG at the mo after 40 GIG if possible) and my CPU is Intel Pentium III 750MHZ. Please could someone point me in the right direction of where i can get a 40 gig h/drive for the right sort of money and what is the fastest / suggest CPU i can get / go for.
Thanks for your help .

Hi
The fact is that the Tecra 820 was delivered with different CPUs:
PIII-M (Mobile) 750MHz;
PIII-M (Mobile) 850MHz;
PIII-M (Mobile) 900MHz;
PIII-M (Mobile) 1.0GHz
In this case the fastest CPU which you can use is a PIII 1GhZ.
However the CPU changing is not easy and you should change anything if you have no experience.
Important: You will loose the warranty if you open the notebook.
Furthermore in my opinion you need also a high performance cooling module because the new CPU will produce more warmness.
I have also found a information that this unit was delivered with 10GB; 20GB; 30GB HDDs. I think you will have no problems to use a 40GB HDD. The compatible one you can order from the Toshiba service partner.

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