"Date Modified" changes in iTunes 11

Hi. I'm running iTunes 11 on a Windows 7 machine. I've noticed that after I close iTunes and reopen it, some of my music files get their "Date Modified" changed as soon as I play the track. This wouldn't be a problem if it happens once, but for some tracks (especially tracks I've purchased) it happens several times. One track changed three times in three days--so it's like whatever settings I created on the track don't hold (sometimes I modify the title, the artist's name or the year--and they end up reverting back to the way they were before, then I play the track and the settings change to the way I modified it). It's almost like something else is modifying the files without my knowledge.
Weird, I know. Can anyone advise how I can keep the settings? Thanks!
Doug

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Based on my research, the Date Modified changed could be due to corrupt Update Sequence Number Journal. The USN Journal is a feature of NTFS which maintains a record of changes made to the volume.
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Best Regards,
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I am bumping this thread again because I can't believe that I am the only one experiencing this issue. At times it is costing me hours repeatedly copying files until eventually the date doesn't show as modified.
I thought I had cracked it earlier by changing the Sharing & Permissions settings, and applying to enclosed items the ability for Everyone, Me and Staff fo have Read & Write permissions - but that doesn't seemed to have changed much.
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