Date modified is incorrect on exisiting files?
Hello all - We have a NW 6.5 SP8 server with Win7 and XP clients. All clients though report the existing shared files date modified attribute incorrectly (31/12/1984). This applies to all files - folders seem to be ok. Create a new file and it's fine. Copy and paste an existing file and the modifed date will remain the same (1984) but the created date will be the current time and date.
I've had a good search and the small mentions of it point to it being possibly an AV or backup issue? There's no AV on the NW server (not ideal I know but it is on all the Windows servers) and I don't "think" it's anything to do with backup either (but I will check/investigate further)
Has anyone any ideas please?
Many thanks
Originally Posted by HvdHeuvel
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:46:02 +0000, ataubman wrote:
> Always an AV or backup issue, in my experience. Is there AV on the
> clients?
>
> Also: has this always happened, or only since what change or update?
The OP most likely have Windows XP Clients with A/V software installed
(Sophos ?)
After scanning mapped network drives from the Workstation, the dates of
the files on the network drives have been reset to 1985.
This problem has been introduced with an update to the A/V software that
has invalidated the check that was in place for this in the Novell client.
We have now made another update to the client, which can be downloaded
from here [1] :
Few customers have already confirmed this to be the solution to the same
problem
Regards
Hans
[1] NOVELL: Downloads - Novell Client 4.91 Post-SP5 (IR1) NWFS.SYS 3
Thanks for this Hans, much appreciated.
Yes - well guessed, Sophos on the clients. Mostly clients are Win7 though - is there a recommeded client for Win7 that has been customised to avoid this issue?
If I install the client you posted on the XP machines will it rectify this issue, as in will the dates be reset with the correct data - or is that modified tag info missing for ever?
Thank you so much for taking the time to help!
Echo
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