Date modified problem

Since I have been using Lion, folders and documents get "modified date" updated by just opening or moving them. This is highly annoying. Is there a way to avoid that and have date modified when document or folder is really modified? Thanks!

Hi all
I am bumping this thread again because I can't believe that I am the only one experiencing this issue. At times it is costing me hours repeatedly copying files until eventually the date doesn't show as modified.
I thought I had cracked it earlier by changing the Sharing & Permissions settings, and applying to enclosed items the ability for Everyone, Me and Staff fo have Read & Write permissions - but that doesn't seemed to have changed much.
Copying in smaller batches helps sometimes, but then other times it makes no odds, and the Date Modified date shows as the original date for a few seconds, only to change to today's date. Driving me nuts because there is no pattern to it.
Files which I have copied and show their original modified date, when moved to a subfolder, then have their date changed to today!!! Copying other files into the folder results in files that were previously OK having their Date Modified changed!
Am I on the only one?

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Date Modified problem not fixed . . . maybe never?

Dunno if this has come up recently--I couldn't find it in a search. But the problem of a file, being modified and updated, not showing up as such in a folder unless clicked, is a massive one, and obviously has not been fixed with 4.5. I can modify a file, say an FCP movie, then save it, but it will still be down on the list date-wise that it was before I modified it. Only if I highlight it with a mouse click does it go to the top of the "Date Modified" column.
This is inexcusable. OS 9 was instantaneous. What is it about OS X that Apple can't get right in this incredibly basic Finder function?

Hello Ben
If you want to use BT and make connection between the notebook and your mobile phone you must not be any expert. I have done it several times and it works perfectly.
I can really not understand that your dealer was not able to help you. If you want to use the mobile phone as modem you can configure it on follow way:
1. activate Bluetooth using FN+F8 key combination
2. install all new hardware components if necessary (few of them)
3. start Bluetooth stack (BT Manager) using small icon near the time information using right mouse button > Bluetooth Settings
4. activate the Bluetooth on the mobile phone (discoverable)
5. choose Express mode > Next
6. Choose visible device listed in Bluetooth device list > Next
7. Choose pass key for identification (1234)
8. Enter the key into mobile phone. Paring will be success
9. Go to Next and configure the internet connection (provider number) > Finish
10. The new connection will be created in Bluetooth stack utility
11. You can start the dialing up with double click or click with right mouse button and choose Connect
In my case I use Motorola mobile phone and I am also able to send the pictures to the notebook.
Please make it again. It must works!
Good luck!

Possible fix for Word2004 "Date Modified" issue

I'm not sure if anyone else is still dealing with this problem - we discussed it a year ago here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7610823
But just in case there's someone else out there with the problem - I think I've found a fix (requiring OSX Server 10.5, tested on OSX Server 10.5.6)
The problem:
When you have a Word 2004 file (whatever.doc) stored on a server (10.4.0-10.5.6) then you have an annoying Date Modified issue. Whenever someone who is not the owner simply opens the file, the Date Modified date updates. When the owner of the file opens it, the date does not change. So by simply opening the document (and making no changes, and not re-saving it) you trigger an update of the Date Modified field.
More info can be found following the link above.
Well. I think I've found a work-around that's better then the current "Have everyone login as the same user" one.
In OSX Server, setup the permissions for the share with group as "read only" - so the POSIX permissions only give non-owners read-only access. (Everyone should also be RO or None)
Then you need to apply a Custom ACL. You want to give them Read & Write, but then edit the Write permissions to not allow Write Attributes and Write Extended Attributes.
So the ACL is:
[ ] Administration
[Y] Read
[-] Write
--[ ] Write Attributes
--[ ] Write Extended Attributes
--[Y] Create Files (Write Data)
--[Y] Create Folder (Append Data)
--[Y] Delete
--[Y] Delete Subfolders and Files
[Y] Inheritance
Obviously this means your users cannot write attributes - so for photos and other files where meta-data is critical, this is not a great idea. But for the vast majority of shares, this is fine - they can still "read and write" all the files and folders, but the Date Modified problem does not arise.
I'd be interested to see if this works for anyone else. Please let me know
Charles

Interesting and understood. I always tell people/clients that want to use dates either date created but definitely date modified to add that into the name of the file or call them revisions each time, ie:
lawsuitJamesrev2
or
lawsuitJames_5_1209
Reason being is depending on the backup system or worse yet disaster recovery you might not see or be able to see modified dates. IF the file is labeled as shown above it makes it easier. Again each person is different but from experience this works best as well as sorting. Also law firms I worked with have a number system since they needed to follow regulations on how to secure content. Again just ideas...hope you find an answer and pass it on

Copying files to my MBA Early 2011, 10.6.7 changes their 'date modified' to the current date. It happens only to some of the files copied. Any idea what my be causing it. Never had this problem before, on othe macs I have owned.

Copying files to my new MBA (early 2011) running 10.6.7 results in their 'modification date' to change to the current date. Any idea what may be causing it. It happens only to some of the files (there is no pattern to it.). I have not seen it previously in many other macs I have owned.

Hi all
I am bumping this thread again because I can't believe that I am the only one experiencing this issue. At times it is costing me hours repeatedly copying files until eventually the date doesn't show as modified.
I thought I had cracked it earlier by changing the Sharing & Permissions settings, and applying to enclosed items the ability for Everyone, Me and Staff fo have Read & Write permissions - but that doesn't seemed to have changed much.
Copying in smaller batches helps sometimes, but then other times it makes no odds, and the Date Modified date shows as the original date for a few seconds, only to change to today's date. Driving me nuts because there is no pattern to it.
Files which I have copied and show their original modified date, when moved to a subfolder, then have their date changed to today!!! Copying other files into the folder results in files that were previously OK having their Date Modified changed!
Am I on the only one?

How do I change or remove default apps for a given file extension (in Terminal?) without munging date modified on all my old files?

When a program is installed, it seems to be able to do it (sometimes inappropriately if it hijacks file associations without asking) so why can't I? This is for 10.4.
Specifically:
1. Since installing an HP wireless printer, HP not only tries to install a bunch of sales-ware on your machine that you have to carefully opt out of (annoying, but not a problem if forewarned), it changes the default file association for a number of basic file types, listing all sort of existing files as HP printer files. Using Get Info to change the default file type association globally causes it to mark ALL the files of that type as newly updated, munging the file metdata (which HP did NOT do). Most of the stuff on our computer is sorted by last modified, so if there is a way to fix this in Terminal (to simply fix or remove the HP default tag) without changing the date the file was modified, it would help. Note that uninstalling the program that created the default would do this, but I obviously can't do that (and reinstalling HP would have the same effect). So there has to be another way, right?
2. Since updating iTunes to v.9 a while back, every mp3 is marked as an iTunes file even though iTunes has NO multiple library capability without a wonky reboot using the option key, meaning that if I click on an mp3 downloaded since last update of iTunes, it opens automatically in iTunes and gets added to the SOLE itunes library without asking. (There is no way to toggle between multiple libraries or archive media in separate folders; iPhoto has a similar problem. (Has this been fixed in the latest version of iTunes?) In comparison, Quicktime starts up immediately and does not attempt to create a playlist just because you opened a file and listened to it.
(The iTunes playlists are simply subfolders of the single main library -- and you can't create a new library without doing a wonky procedure by clicking option during startup and telling iTunes to forget where its library is located (includin everything in it) and look up an entirely separate one by hand. So any mp3 file downloaded recently is uploaded to iTunes if you click on it. This wouldn't be problem if it didn't automatically add it to the sole iTunes library just because you clicked on it.)
Besides, all my old mp3s are Quicktime files and they are all archived by date modified. To its credit, ITunes, unlike HP, does NOT hijack older files already on disk and remark them as iTunes files. It only marks newly downloaded files as such. But if I try and change file association for FUTURE mp3 files using Get Info > "use this program for all files of this type", it munges the file metadata (date modified) for all existing files!
Note that in HP case, it apparently does it at the file exchange preference level (or whatever it's called) since the OS then recognizes every file of those types as an HP file. In the iTunes case, it only does it if you download a new media file or open an existing file in iTunes, but again without changing the date it was last edited.
Since these programs are able to change the default file association without changing the date the file was last edited, it should be reversible in Terminal, correct? Why does it change "date modified" when you try and correct metadata using Get Info (or sometimes just by clicking an enclosing folder?) Date modified should be a record of when a file itself was edited, not when it was renamed, or other metadata. Otherwise stuff can't be sorted correctly.

The unix commands you need are:
GetFileInfo
SetFileInfo
and maybe find
for cryptic details use the man command
Macintosh-HD -> Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
man SetFileInfo
You may use the SetFileInfo command to set the file type & the program which will open the file.
# This little gem will do a get info on all files in a directory.
mac $ ls | xargs -I {} GetFileInfo "{}"
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/oddadocodd"
type: ""
creator: ""
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/01/2011 14:53:22
modified: 05/01/2011 14:53:22
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/one.docx"
type: ""
creator: ""
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/01/2011 13:57:48
modified: 05/01/2011 13:57:48
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/oneLineFile"
type: "TEXT"
creator: "!Rch"
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/07/2011 14:27:17
modified: 05/07/2011 14:27:17
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/oneLineFile.txt"
type: "TEXT"
creator: "!Rch"
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/07/2011 14:27:49
modified: 05/07/2011 14:27:49
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/three.docx"
type: ""
creator: ""
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/01/2011 13:58:03
modified: 05/01/2011 13:58:03
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/two.docx"
type: ""
creator: ""
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/01/2011 13:57:56
modified: 05/01/2011 13:57:56
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/weirder.doc.docx"
type: ""
creator: ""
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/01/2011 14:50:03
modified: 05/01/2011 14:50:03
# well, ! is a funnie character so we escape it.
mac $ SetFile -t TEXT -c \!Rch two.docx
mac $ GetFileInfo two.docx
file: "/Users/mac/playdoc/two.docx"
type: "TEXT"
creator: "!Rch"
attributes: avbstclinmedz
created: 05/01/2011 13:57:56
modified: 05/01/2011 13:57:56
mac $
mac $ date
Sat May 7 14:40:56 EDT 2011
mac $

Why does placing links in Illustrator now change the "Date Modified" data for all of my files?

This seems to be a new glitch that started after I installed the latest updates to Illustrator CC (2014) and reoccurs every time on both computers I work on:
When I choose to place a new image in my Illustrator file and the window opens to let me choose a file to place, the "Date Modified" field of all the files in the folder I'm viewing (except other Illustrator files) quickly changes to the current date and time. This is definitely happening when I'm in Illustrator because when I needed files from a folder that had hundreds of images in it and I was able to select a file quickly, I was able to do so before it had changed the date on all of my files. However, when I needed a file from a folder that had hundreds of images in it but I took a long time to find the image I needed, Illustrator had time to change the date modified on all of my files. This might seem like an unimportant issue because it doesn't actually seem to modify or damage any of my files, but having all of the dates change on my files is a serious problem for my workflow and file management issues. So far, my only work around has been to use back-up image files, but that's not a long term solution and I don't understand why Illustrator should be modifying the dates of my files.
Is there a setting I can choose somewhere to prevent this problem? If not, is there somewhere I can report this kind of glitch? I'm not sure if I'm using the exact language necessary to get the issue across so please let me know if you have any questions! Thanks!

iCloud is not compatible with Snow Leopard, that is your problem.
A quick way out is to purchase Soho Organizer which is compatible, even when running on Snow Leopard, it will correctly handle Contacts and Calendars from iCloud. $100, 2 user license.
Soho Organizer
There is a free trial if you want to try it.

The date modified date for documents does not change

All my documents except for today and yesterday (whenever that happens to be) shows the date modified as being a random date of last year that is not when they were last modified. Does anybody know how to fix the problem so as the documents accurately show when they were last modified?

Go to website.
Change it back.
You will have 2 minutes to delete iCloud from iPhone.
Change it to new one on website and verify.
Sign in new one on the phone.

ORA-01403: no data found Problem when using AUTOMATIC ROW FETCH to populate

ORA-01403: no data found Problem when using AUTOMATIC ROW FETCH to populate a form.
1) Created a FORM on EMP using the wizards. This creates an AUTOMATIC ROW FETCH
TABLE NAME - EMP
Item Containing PRIMARY KEY - P2099_EMPNO
Primary key column - EMPNO
By default the automatic fetch has a ‘Process Error Message’ of ‘Unable to fetch row.’
2) Created a HTML region. Within this region add
text item P2099_FIND_EMPNO
Button GET_EMP to submit
Branch Modified the conditional branch created during button creation to set P2099_EMPNO with &P2099_FIND_EMPNO.
If I then run the page, enter an existing employee number into P2099_EMPNO and press the GET_EMP button the form is populated correctly. But if I enter an employee that does not exist then I get the oracle error ORA-01403: no data found and no form displayed but a message at the top of the page ‘Action Processed’.I was expecting a blank form to be displayed with the message ‘Unable to fetch row.’
I can work around this by making the automated fetch conditional so that it checks the row exists first. Modify the Fetch row from EMP automated fetch so that it is conditional
EXIST (SQL query returns at least one row)
select 'x'
from EMP
where EMPNO = :P2099_EMPNO
But this means that when the employee exists I must be fetching from the DB twice, once for the condition and then again for the actual row fetch.
Rather than the above work around is there something I can change so I don’t get the Oracle error? I’m now wondering if the automatic row fetch is only supposed to be used when linking a report to a form and that I should be writing the fetch process manually. The reason I haven’t at the moment is I’m trying to stick with the automatic wizard generation as much as I can.
Any ideas?
Thanks Pete

Hi Mike,
I've tried doing that but it doesn't seem to make any difference. If I turn debug on it shows below.
0.05: Computation point: AFTER_HEADER
0.05: Processing point: AFTER_HEADER
0.05: ...Process "Fetch Row from EMP": DML_FETCH_ROW (AFTER_HEADER) F|#OWNER#:EMP:P2099_EMPNO:EMPNO
0.05: Show ERROR page...
0.05: Performing rollback...
0.05: Processing point: AFTER_ERROR_HEADER
I don't really wan't the error page, either nothing with the form not being populated or a message at the top of the page.
Thanks Pete

Detection Method of Date Modified fails due to copied files date modified change

I've been working through an issue for some time now and I think it's a bug with SCCM 2012 SP1. I've built literally 50 deployments in "Application Management" in SCCM 2012, but I've been chasing my tail on a few of them throwing the
"succeeded but couldn't detect" error. The few that have given me problems are all copying text files and then detect the modified date to verify that the file is there. All worked when I initially built them in Windows 8 but are now failing
randomly...even on a machine where they previously worked and I deleted the files to test the deployment again.
What I'm doing:
My java deployment requires policies which we control with the Deployment.config, deployment.properties and java.policy files. A simple script creates the directories and copies the files. I then create a deployment type for this "ConfigFileCopy.cmd"
and create a detection rule for each file that I am moving over. The detection rule looks for a "date modified" date between the beginning and end of the date for the day I modified the file. This allows me to modify the files to change our
java policies and then redeploy them with the "new" modified date as the detection rule, which forces the update.
The problem:
When I first created my deployment, everything worked pretty well. The files copy out and the script runs successfully. There were some minor tweaks I need to make to my scripts, so I did and then updated the content for the deployment type. I believe this
is where things go a little wonky. At this point, my deployment starts failing with the "0x87D00324" error.
Looking through the logs, everything looks good. The reason configuration manager is failing on detecting the modified date for those files, as it turns out, is because the modified dates don't meet the criteria. So that part is properly failing the detection.
The problem is that the modified dates are correct on the server but not the client. Looking in c:\windows\ccmcache, I can see multiple folders....presumably one for each version of the application that I updated. Looking at any of the newer content folders
for this app, the modified dates are the date and time the file was copied out to the workstation, which is incorrect as the file hasn't been modified during that process.
The odd part, is that this doesn't happen EVERY time on EVERY machine. My primary desktop is windows 8.1 and received the files correctly and installed without issue. My test win 8.1 laptop initially received them correctly, but then as I refined the scripts
it began picking up the wrong modified dates and started failing.
I found a similar issue to this existed in SCCM 2007 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2276865) so I suspect that this is truly just a bug that hasn't been addressed (or maybe is fixed in R2). Unfortunately
we have business reasons we can't upgrade to R2 at this time so I'm hoping someone has experienced this and has some sort of work around that might get me by for now. If someone can confirm it is fixed in R2, that would help my case to upgrade as well.
I can work around the issue by changing my logic to detect any date greater than a specific date. But I shouldn't have to do that and I'm concerned there are scenarios I haven't thought of that will cause unexpected behavior or failures with that.

This outlines the behavior. It's apparently by design.
"SCCM has a habit of changing the ‘Date Modified’ timestamp of all files it delivers when it detects an ‘upgrade’ of the source files for that application. It typically does not touch the timestamp
of the source files if it delivers a brand new install to a client that has never received the software, however if a single file in the source folder is changed for that application, then SCCM tries to use a previous version of the application in the cache
(C:\windows\ccmcache) and only downloads the new file that has change. This results in all files having their ‘Data Modified’ timestamp changing (except for the brand new file). Therefore determining if that application has delivered
successfully using ‘Date Modified’ timestamps is not recommended. The key to seeing this process in action is looking at the file properties in the
C:\windows\ccmcache\<sccm code> folder for that application, particularly before and after a file is updated in the original source SCCM application folder."
http://blog.kloud.com.au/tag/sccm/

In my opinion, the real solution is for Apple to offer us a choice of the photo sort order in ITunes. My preference would be filename, perhaps with options to choose the Date Taken attribute, file timestamp or date modified filestamp (EXIF date fields as

I tryed to sort my pictures with buying Apps and following suggestion from apple, but without any success. In my opinion, the real solution is for Apple to offer us a choice of the photo sort order in ITunes. My preference would be filename, perhaps with options to choose the Date Taken attribute, file timestamp or date modified filestamp.

Not a problem when using iPhoto on a Mac, which the transfer of photos is primarily based on - not manually managing photo storage as seems to be common with Windoze.
The same should be available with a supported photo management app on a PC.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4221

Is Bridge supposed to sort raw files by date modified? Not on my systems.

I have just installed photoshop/bridge cs5 on two windows 7 systems, home premium 64 bit, one an i3 chip and the other an i7 chip. I was formerly using cs3.
I see that Bridge is not sorting my raw files by date modified like it did before. It sorts jpg files okay. I noticed that the xmp files associated with the raw files, when I hover over them in Windows Explorer show the correct modified date but the thumbnail icon shows only creation date, which I assume is as it shou ld be. Why doesn't Bridge CS5 sort raw files by date modified as it did in CS3? CS3 must have referred to the xmp file modified date to use for sorting, I would think.
I should also mention that the metadata file does not show the correct date modified, but gives the same date as the creation date. Also the thumbnails for raw images that have been modified correctly show the icon that indicates it was modified.
Also, I see that when you hover over a thumbnail in Bridge CS5 nothing is revealed about the file. In CS3 Bridge hovering over a thumbnail showed several pieces of data about the file including anything in the file info.
Is this just how Bridge CS5 works or have I missed a setting somewhere in Bridge or Windows?

Curt, thanks for your response. The tool tips
was not checked and did result in "hovering"
working. I'm not sure why that's called tool tips, but okay.
I have just installed the software in the last
few days. I almost immediately got an update
notice and installed the update. I thought I was
up to date. Then, just a while ago I got another
update notice. After installing it the sorting
now works. Thanks much. Problems seem to be solved.

InDesign will not open files in Date Modified order

I have never had this problem before, but suddenly InDesign will not import/open my files (photos) in Date Modified order. No matter how I select the files or order/arrange the files in the File\Place window, they open in name order. I have 200 separate folders with six photos each. These are to be placed in the InDesign document in date modified order. Someone suggested batch renaming the files using Adobe Bridge, however the files are in 200 individual folders for a reason and I don't want to open each folder and batch rename 6 at a time. I have reset my InDesign preferences with no luck. I am using Version CS5.5 of InDesign, Mac OS X 10.7.5. Any suggestions?

@Emily,
It usually only confuses a discussion to open a new thread on the same subject.
I'm directing you back to the original discussion you opened earlier today instead of starting another one:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1292390?tstart=0
I'm also locking this discussion.

Why doesn't Lightroom organise videos/photos lacking "date taken" by "date modified" instead of "date created"?

This still seems to be a problem with Lightroom 5. This post is one of the top results after trying to Google this problem, and it's for LR3. I can't understand why something so fundamental to video (and some photo) organisation has been overlooked for so long.
I've been trying to import and organise all my old photos and videos by date with LR5. They've been backed up and copied many times over the years, most recently to an external drive last week. So every file has a "date created" of last week. But "date modified" remains the original recorded date.
This doesn't matter for photos with a proper EXIF "date taken" - but LR5 looks at the "date created" for videos, making it completely useless for organising them into date-based folders. It puts videos I recorded in 2010 (as per "date modified") into a 2014-12 folder. Why.
It's not just a video problem - some photos I took with devices that didn't record EXIF "date taken" are also filed into folders from this month, even though the "date modified" on them is correct as being from 5 years ago.
How can I rely on LR5 for importing and date-based organisation when it relies on files (lacking "date taken") having never been copied or backed up?

Hello,
I use exiftool to modify the Creation and Modification time of the files. After that I use LR "Ajust time" feature to set the time of the movies in LR to the file creation time (last point). This works fine for me.
For MOV (Quicktime):
exiftool "-FileModifyDate<TrackCreateDate" "-FileCreateDate<TrackCreateDate"
For AVI:
exiftool "-FileModifyDate<DateTimeOriginal" "-FileCreateDate<DateTimeOriginal" *.avi
Depnding on your camera (and container format mov, avi) you may also ajust the time zone, e.g.
exiftool -FileModifyDate+=1 -FileCreateDate+=1 -if "$CameraModelName =~ /EOS 600D/i" *.mov
Which time in the container (MOV, AVI) you use as source, depends on your workflow. I edit my mov files before import. Therfore "CreateDate" is the time when I edited the file. Quicktime and (some) avi file contain a time when the containing stream was created. I use this vaule as source.
exiftool <filename> gives you detailed information about all available times.

Why does Bridge always sort images by rating instead of by date modified?

Why does Bridge always sort images by rating instead of by date modified?
This drives me bonkers. Everytime I look for an image I've been working on, I go to Bridge and I'm always presented with the images sorted by rating instead of by date.
Then I click on the microscopic sized, extremely tiny arrow that allows one to choose 'sort by date modified' and I resort them to find the file I need. So that's always 3 extra clicks to find the image.
WHY can't Bridge sort images by date modified and STAY that way every time I come back?
Thanks for any help.
I know I could just keep the recent files rated the highest, but still, I'm wondering if there's a way to make it work the way I'd like it to work?
jn
p.s. Note to Adobe: Please make the selection button for sorting images arrow larger than a fraction of the size of the period at the end of this sentence. Thanks.

WHY can't Bridge sort images by date modified and STAY that way every time I come back?
By default it does stay at the latest selected sort order so this could mean it is due to your install.
First of all try to reset the preferences for Bridge, hold down option key while restarting Bridge and choose reset preferences. This sets it all to default. First try if the problem is solved then set prefs again to your own custom wishes.
Also check and repair permissions for the OSX itself (Apple has disk utility in the utility folder for this job, and there are other 3th party applications)
And be sure to have the latest update for Bridge. (Bridge CS5 should be 4.0.5.11)
In addition to the method Tai Lao pointed you already to there is a third option, use right click mouse button in content window and the pop up menu has also the sort option at the bottom of the row

PSE 8 - Changing Dates - Serious problem

I have been using PSE for many years and have built up a library of almost 14,000 images, which are carefully tagged and dated, however I recently upgraded from PSE7 to PSE8 and, as recommended, I regenerated the thumbnails. I now find that PSE has changed the dates on about 4,000 of my photos and videos to the date of installation of PSE8 or of regeneration of thumbnails. The import date has remained unchanged but the date created and the date modified have both been changed on the file properties. The Exif Date as also been changed and mow matches the PSE Installation date as well.
I am running Windows 7 and first installed the trial version of PSE8 while I waited for the boxed version to come.
Since I am also experiencing some of the other bugs described in this forum, such as duplicated tags and the crashes when using people tagging etc. I am seriously thinking of going back to PSE7 and asking for a refund.
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
I did a backup of the catalog just before upgrading and I assume that I could restore that, and then import all the new pictures since the PSE8 upgrade.
Does anyone have any recommendations for fixing this situation? I suppose I could deinstall PSE8 and PRE8, do a fresh install from the official disks, restore my PSE7 backup and reimport the recent photos. I have to say this sounds like a lot of work though.
Peter

Thanks for the reply, John. After I wrote my post I found your comprehensive listing of resolved and unresolved problems with the PSE Organizer in 7 and 8 and saw that you had already found an unresolved issue with both 7 and 8 changing dates and times.
I have not consciously changed anything at Photoshop.com. I'm only using the on-line backup/synchronization as one form of back up. I also back up to an external hard drive and DVDs. But now that the main files are corrupted, later backups will be corrupted, too.
I did have the advanced option to "Resolve backup/sync conflicts automatically" checked by mistake for awhile and I believe the date problem occurred while I had that option selected. Now that I've de-selected that option, however, the improper dates/times keep regenerating themselves.
This program is a quite disappointing upgrade, all in all. As you note, it is a lot slower in several ways than PSE 7 was. The program size may itself account for that since it is more than three times larger than 7 was. What kind of programmer allows an automatic backup function to override dates and times which the user has specified in response to a dialog box which specifically asks you to specify dates and times? And what kind of programmer hides the selection of file types for backup under "Advanced Backup/sync Options"? Out of the box, PSE 8 has no files selected for backup. The Backup/sync icon indicates that it's operating normally even when nothing at all is being backed up because you haven't clicked on any file types under "Advanced Backup/sync Options.
I saw someone asking about other organizer programs for electronic photos and other files. One which was not mentioned, which has a basically bulletproof organizer function, is Creative Memories Memory Manager 3 for about $40. Editing features are quite limited, but functional with no glitches. Organizing is the main thing here; editing is secondary, as you'd expect from a program aimed primarily at the digital scrapbooking market. The entire program is very easy to learn and use and backups work without a hitch. You could always edit in PSE and then use another program like Memory Manager 3 to organize your files as long as you don't save the edited files as .psd files. See: http://www.creativememories.com/MainMenu/Our-products-and-services/Digital-Scrapbooking/Me mory-Manager%c2%ae The reason my wife and I moved to PSE from Memory Manager was the more sophisticated editing functions available in PSE, but by comparison PSE's Organizer is second rate, to be kind.
>>> "John R. Ellis" <[email protected]> 12/29/2009 10:39 PM >>>
Interesting, this is another symptom of a known bug: Photoshop.com doesn't handle unknown month, day, or time fields. (This is ironic, given that Adobe has been pushing a revision to its XMP standard specifically for handling unknown date/time fields.) See this post for other issues wth Photoshop.com:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2306550#2306550
After you first sync with Photoshop.com, you can see that the thumbnails on Photoshop.com have incorrect date/times. But for me to reproduce your bug, I need to then change the tags or captions of the thumbnails on Photoshop.com. Then when I sync again, the incorrect date/times get copied back into the PSE catalog. If I don't add a tag or caption on Photoshop.com, the incorrect date/times don't get copied back.
Are you making any changes to the tags or captions of the photos on Photoshop.com?

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