DDR-333 unstable on 648 MAX

I have runned memtest86, and I get 16 errors on test#5 when running ddr-333 (167 mhz) on normal speed. Is the ram bad ? Or is the mainboard bad ? .. It's Apacer PC-2700 CAS 2,5 memory.

If it's more than one stick run the test on each stick alone.
Test it at lower frequenecies as well.
If you have another board that can use the memory test it there as well.
That should be enough to determine the source of the problem.

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I originally thought the video card problem was BIOS related because the only thing recommended by XP was to update the BIOS (said motherboard does not support your video card's features; try updating your BIOS). I tried that through LiveUpdate, and it messed up somehow during the flash, so I tried to restore the original BIOS, but the system was very unstable after that. I'm about to send my motherboard back for an exchange. I just found out by reading some posts here that other people have been having the same problem with a similar RAM/video card setup.
Also, I'm having extreme difficulty installing Win2000. It installed the first time on a test HDD, but on my new one (WD 80GB 7200RPM ATA100), it wouldn't go in at all. ;( It went up to the final file copying part (after entering the serial number), and crashed. It kept doing that, so I gave up and moved on to XP. XP went in fine the first time, but it wouldn't reinstall after that, even with a reformatted drive. Other people are having similar problems, and said that once they swapped out their RAM, their problems were gone.
I'm just looking for the fastest compatible 512MB DDR RAM available for the 648. Thanks.

Heh, funny thing, I was messing around with some BIOS settings, and somehow got my computer to work this afternoon! 8o Reinstalled everything, and was having a good ol time! :D
Then, and even funnier thing happened. I went out this evening, and when I came back, the computer wouldn't work anymore! X( This thing is driving me nuts. I'm definitely gonna pick up either the Corsair or Winbond memory ASAP. Thanks for the replys everyone!
BTW, I've had the hard drive by itself with the jumperless setting from the beginning. Also, it always wants to be the primary drive, even when it's set to slave and attached at the slave connector on the IDE cable. ?( I know that isn't a problem right now cause I just have it by itself on the cable.

648 max L and kingmax ddr 400

I can't get the Kingmax DDR 400 memory to work with the 648 Max L motherboard using SPD settings. What are the proper settings to get it to work? Thanks.
P.S. I have BIOS 1.4

Set the ram timming to normal , and the cas to 2.5 , then boot up.. if all is still stable then you can set the ram setting to fast . but don't go above that because it will not boot after that.. But I will tell you this , you won't gain anything but going higher.. in real world apps that is..

648 max , testing base and extended memory

I dont see the thread i answered to one time that someone spoke of using ddr400 with 648 max or max-L board and they were getting testing base and extended memory error from the LED's. Well i just got the same error today and my system would not boot i cut the power to the PS. and turned it back on it would start to boot and hang i could barely get to the windows logo sometimes the vid card wouldnt even boot the logo to the screen. This is with an updated mobo that msi sent me that i had just put in , it seemed to run fine at first then this problem started occuring. The only difference i had in the setup from the previous outdated board was i had the mem in DIMM 3 and not DIMM 1, so i moved the memory back over to DIMM 3 and now the problem is gone. Just something for those of you with the same problem to try.
Oh and i forgot one more issue, i cannot set the dram speed in the bios manually i have ddr 333 it should be 167 mhz so i set it to 4/5 and the system will not boot at all i end up having to reset cmos. I called MSI about that and they told me to just have it set to SPD , I said i know that and im fine with leaving it that way but it should let me set it manually if i wanted to and that i wondered if that had anything to do with the random " testing base and extended memory " problem.

It was probably myt thread...
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=6204&boardid=10&styleid=1
Have done some testing with both DDR333 and DDR400 and my results are in the thread.
Right no I'm using my DDR400 as DDR333, manually set to 167MHz, using DIMM1, and havn't seen any problems. I'll try the DIMM3 to see if I get any changes.
And by the way.. I tried setting my DDR400 manually to 200MHz and it wouldn't boot at all. After a lot of ugly language I finally got it back to the BIOS....after a reset of the CMOS.
Seams like you should use SPD if you want to use the correct freq for your RAM.
Have you tested the new 1.3 BIOS?

Help for SIS 648 MAX-L Startup Problem

I just bought an MSI-648MAX-L, a 2.4GHz cpu and a Jaton GeForce4 TI4200 card. Installed all of the above + PC2700 512 MB RAM and a WD 80GB hard drive, floppy and CD. Turn on the power and my screen flickers all four of the diagnostic leds light up green and then nothing. I hear the hard drive spinning and the CPU fan and video card fan but nothing else. Tried one other AGP video card and a PCI video card but nothing on the screen. Seems like the BIOS is not loading. So I turn the computer off and set the BIOS reset jumper. Turn it back on again and still nothing. Checked all the connections, the seating of the CPU and tried again, still nothing. Any idea what might be wrong?? I hope I don't have to buy another MotherBoard and also I hate the idea of removing my CPU once installed. ;(
Thanks for your help..
Kumar.

What kind of video card is it?
If it's a radeon 9700 pro, look in one of the other threads on this site to figure out what revision you have, rev 1.1 or 1.2 9700 pros will not work on some 648 max boards ( well for me it was 648 max L im not sure about the 648 max but im assuming it has the same problem.
What happens with radeon is since the mobo sets the agp automatically, and there is the 8x bug the system doesnt boot. But the card will work fine on machines that have 4x, In this case RMA the card to radeon and make sure to specifiy that you get a 1.3 rev.
Otherwise you stated you have tried other processors and memory that were "known" to be good.
DDR 400 or DDR 333 memory?

MSI-6585 (648 MAX) instant restart issues questions pls help......

Hi, i figured after months of specualation i would try to figure out what the hell is wrong with my pc. 12months ago a bought a MS-6585 648 MAX mobo and a P4 2.53ghz with 2x Samsung DDR 333 (PC2700) ram. I play many games on my pc it seems when playing Counter-Strike + PlanetSide results in random instant restarts. Occasionaly it will just hang the system but mainly instant reset of the system. My cpu temp ranges from 35 48 max approx.
I've tried switching my ram to different slots and so on refit everything but with no luck. I just have a very unreliable computer atm. I've reformated plenty of times but with no joy, the odd thing is its random somtimes my pc will not crash or reset it self so this makes it very difficult to figure out what the hell is going on :S
If you have more questions perhaps i can answer them - and give you more info that i have forgotten.
Here are somethings that might be useful:
MS-6585 648 MAX mobo
Pentium 4 (northwood) 2,53ghz 533
Samsung DDR 333 (PC2700)
Gigabyte Maya II Radeon 9700Pro (running in agp 8x)
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum
Bios settings: (things ive changed)
Turned onboard sound off than auto
AGP Apeture size 128
I have 32bit transfer mode running for hdds
I have S.M.A.R.T. enabled
(next week end i will have another 512 ram stick to try just incase its my ram but i have done the intel ram checker and it didn't find any problems)
Any help would be greatly appreciated pls ask any things ive missed and anything else u would need to know. I really want to sort this out as you can imagine its not very nice having a pc that can randomly crash when u do not expect it.

Overclocking is typically limited by one of 3 factors, assuming you have sufficient power:
1. Memory won't operate past a certain speed, so you run at a different ratio or buy faster memory.
2. Temperature, so you need to add non-stock cooling or better case ventilation or water cooling, depending on how far you want to go
3. CPU - At some point the CPU won't run any faster.
Leave the CPU voltage at Auto. You should only need to raise it if you get into extreme overclocking.
As for the size of the power supply, if you stay with Intel Northwood with an ATX board on your next upgrade, an Enermax 465, Antec 480, or something similar (should cost around $80-100US) would get good choices. If you plan on going with a Prescott on an ATX board, I would look at going to a 550W supply.
Personally, I thing the next 12 months is shaping up to be a real headache in making upgrade decisions in the Intel world. Intel have indicated their next generation of boards will be BTX without AGP support. This looks like an upgrade could mean new case, possibly power supply, video card and possibly ram. I am hoping that companies like MSI will produce a transitional product that allows new processors and chip sets on an atx board. If that doesn't happen I see a lot of people switching to AMD.

MSI 648 Max-L

MSI 648 Max-L (MS-6585) SiS 648 P4 (533FSB) Skt478 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, LAN Retail
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93.49
ok my question is... im sorry i just wanna make sure i buy the right motherboard ok ?
can this motherboard support
intel p4 3.06 Hyper threading
1gb kingston ddr 333
40gb ata133 7200 rpm
maybe msi geforce fx the new one but i cannot find it on my online retail store so i probably going to buy an ati 9500 pro 128mb 8x
windows xp prof... this motherboard comes with ata133 cables for my HD?
whow will work my system and whow much time my motherboard is going to work
if this motherboard dont support the above config. plz sugest me any other motherboard... that will work perfect or just sugest me any other better version of mobo u guys have... and plz tell me where i can buy the msi geforce fx plz ...and for whow much thank u guys

Make sure you get the HT Ready version. Utilizes the 648bo chipset and also has a sticker on the box. Im not exactly sure how to distinguish the 2 different types because the model numbers are EXACTLY the same.
Support Hyper Threading..
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=417&MODEL=MS-6585
Doesn't Support...
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=355&MODEL=MS-6585
-rob

9700 Pro / SIS 648 MAX /Games Issues

Hi Everybody!
Everything seem to be find with my PC, but everytime I play a game, I'm sent back to the desktop eventuelly. I have a fresh Install PC with XP SP1, latest driver from ATI (Catalyst version 3.0) directx 9 install, BY the way my mobo is a SIS 648 MAX from MSI with the lastest AGP and IDE Drivers installed (for this motherboard of course) and I have the latest version of the bios. here the description of my Machine.
Intel 2.4 P4 533 northwood
1024 gig of DDR 333
Ati 9700 pro AGP 8X
SB Audigy
120 Gig HD Seagate
With Windows XP SP1 Installed
Any suggestion!??? all my game do this

Try stepping down (underclocking) your RAM tp run @ 266.. There is a huge issue that hasnt been addressed by MSI or ATI at this point. Its a latency issue.
It could be solved by ATI with a new driver that decreases the AGP latency or MSI could update a BIOS that could be flashed that allowed to reduce AGP slot latency manually.
Let me know if it helps you!

SiS 648 MAX problem!

Hello!
I have a very annoying problem with my MSI 648 MAX board.
The computer freezes and reboots when i put in another DIMM in it.
I have two identical TwinMos 256mb PC3200 DDR modules.
They both work fine when they arent used together.
When i put in the other one, the sympthoms i described above happen.
I have formatted c: and tryed with both WinXP and Win2000.
I'm using the latest SiS AGP & IDE drivers.
Nothing in the system is overclocked.
I have upgraded with the latest bios.
Other system speccs:
P4 2.0 (400mhz).
ASUS GF4 Ti4200.
80gb Seagate.
350W "Noname" Powersupply.
Is this a known problem and will I just have to face the fact that this won't work? :(

It's a JNC Power Supply 350W.
The amps are:
+3.3V = 24A
+5V = 35A
+12V = 12A
-12V = 0.8A
-5V = 0.5A
It has worked fine with this board before and with another board (Abit th7 II raid).
The problem itself is getting worse, windows freezes with just 1 memory-stick now :(
Formatted once again and tried WinXP and Win2k without any success..
The Memory / GFX works fine in another computer.

648 MAX BEEP ALARM

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128 CORSAIR DDR CAS 2
MSI MX440 SE-T
System was running fine. I changed from an Intel C 1.7 to a P4 2.4G Proc. When I booted up, I got a Hi/Lo beep tone at 1 second intervals. The system runs ok. There is no other problems. System is running W-98 2nd. Edition.
I can’t find anything in the bios to get rid of the alarm. The bios pc health reports temps under 30 C.
I can’t find any documentation about alarms in manual.

Hi,
In Pc health status, If the option is available disable Fan detection.
-rob

648 Max booting problem

Hi all,
I just installed my new 648 Max / p4 / DDR PC3200 256MB hardware.
Sadly it will not work.
It hangs showing 4 Green LEDs.
According to the manual it means; System booting,
but nothing happens. Nothing is written on the screen.
I can see the CPU/GPU fans working fins.
Any ideas ?(
Thanks,
zzzova.

what is your DDR400?
I had this problem too
My first DDR400 was samsung and never boot at 400Mhz
Now i have a 512Mo DDR400 Corsair and it work very fine

648 Max no booting (all leds are RED)

Hello,
I use my 648 Max mother board for 2 year with :
- P4 @ 2,4 Ghz
- two PC2700 DDR 512 Mo
- the D-Bracket 2
- two hard disk
- a nvidia g-force 2
- a lan pci
- sound blaster live! 5.1
Since yesterday, my computer don't start (whithout hardware change) : All D-Bracket 2 LEDs are red.
Is just a mother board problem or the problem can be provided by an another component (like processor, ram, ...)
Thank you
Damien

try clear CMOS. Try your CPU on other motherboard. Try other CPU on your motherboard.

RAM Settings for 648 Max

Does anyone know what my Cas should be set at while I am using PC2100 DDR RAM. I am using a 648 Max-L

run http://www.memtest86.com on it

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P4 2.4ghz
MSI 648 MAX-L
80gig Maxtor HDD
256 mb PC 2100DDR RAM
Radeon 9000
Soundblaster Live 5.1
I tried to install Windows XP Pro but my system hangs up at "setup is starting windows xp" in the BSOD. Since then I've installed Windows 2000 Pro (although it is running with many errors). Every time I try to install Windows XP with a clean install my systems hangs up at the BSOD, if I try to an upgrade install I get various error messages but I am never successful at fully installing Windows XP.
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Here are my RAM settings in my bios:
cas latency - by speed
DRAM timing - normal
MA 1t/2t - MA 1t
AGP Aperture Size - 128m
CPU/DRAM Frequency - by speed
DRAM Frequency - 133mhz
DRAM Voltage - 2.5v
I'm using 256mb PC2100 DDR RAM.

I can´t reset with 648 max

I have a motherboard 648 max.
1 DDR 512 MB 400 MHZ
1 HD 120 GB Ide
1 Ati Radeon 9100
Problem is can´t reset my computer , when it initiates my monitor it remains if signal and leds power y hd ignitions.
I have to unplug behind source feeding and to return to connect it.
They can say the solution to me?
The bios have defaults settings.

Where do the D-Bracket LEDs stop? The 648Max has a lot of problems with DDR400. Also needs a strong PSU. Go through some of the older posts. You'll find a plethora of information.
Do a search for 648Max.

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