DDR Memory on MSI 6378 MB

I just upgraded the memory on a K2M2 MB (6378) from 512 m PC 133 to 768 M PC 2100. The PC 133 is Micron and the PC 2100 is Crucial.
In the BIOS I set the new memory to be detected by SPD and judging from the values shown, the MB has done so. Question is this. Sandra Soft scores the new memory bandwidth low at a value of about 1350 rather than the near 2000 I was expecting. System seems to run fine. How can I establish the true memory speed? There are limited options in the K2M2 BIOS, is there anything obvious I overlooked changing when I did the upgrade?
Thanks,
Joe

fiik
Yet another example of creaping senility on my part. Yes, my board is a 6378 KM2M Combo L.
You may disregard my BIOS question though I still don't understand what the automated MSI update facility is telling me when it says my BIOS is current at the 3.55 revision level. It must be the way MSI refers to VIA 4 in 1 chipset drivers. I verified that I was, in fact, running BIOS v1.3, performed the flash to v1.4 and then reloaded PC Alert 4, changing the chipset temperature alert to remove the annoying alarm and then enabling Cooler XP.
Cooler XP works and now takes my system down to 48-50C idle and low 50's load.
I too, have a 4-5 degree disparity between what PC Alert 4 and MBM 5 report. As you say, go figure.
Although I earlier wasn't inclined to do so, I'm going to buy another heatsink and see if things improve further.
Here's a Holy Grail type question:
What is a good HSF/fan comb that doesn't sound like the APU on an aircraft? I've got a drawer full of either poor performing or really noisy units.
Thanks for the solid advice.
Joe

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* Configuration: 64Meg x 72
* DIMM Type: Registered
* Error Checking: ECC
* Speed: 133MHz
* Voltage: 3.3V
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Originally posted by Assaf
With both sticks in the same channel your not using dual channel.
A bios update could fix the RAM compatability problem.
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Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
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http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
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So far i must say "Worst motherboard ever" !
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Okay, about your memory:
http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TW3X2G1600C9DHX.pdf
These are the "true"/non-overclocked specifications:
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SPD programmed at:
 JEDEC standard 9-9-9-24 values at
1333MHz
...and these are the overclocking specifications:
Quote
Tested together at 1600MHz, Vdimm =
1.80V, at latency settings of 9-9-9-24
Also note, that Corsair does not mention any test condition for stably overclocking and overvolting the memory modules from DDR3-1333 to DDR3-1600 @1.8V. Instead it says this at the bottom:
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Every part is tested in Corsair's factory at 1600MHz, but your actual results may vary depending on the overclocking margin of your CPU and motherboard.
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http://global.msi.eu/uploads/test_report/TR10_1393.pdf
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