DDR Question

I have a KT4VL board I installed last weekend with an Athlon XP 2100+ and 256mb DDR PC2700.
In the bios, which I had to update with the 1.7 version due to numerous errors and problems, I am not sure how to setup the BIOS for the PC2700 Ram (or even if there are any settings I need to change).
I read through the manual and the BIOS information, but I can't really tell if there is a setting to set to the right clock speed for the RAM.
I'm sorry if this is too basic of a question for this board, but I'm doing my first experimentation with DDR (I've only used PC100 and PC133 SDRAM before this). Thanks.

It's all auto detect by BIOS. Disable the BIOS startup screen in BIOS and you'll get info from your BIOS while it start detecting components and hardwares installwithin the system.
If it says Dual Channel or Linear Dual Channel, means Dual Channel is activated.

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Silly Dual DDR question

OK,
Is there a way to verify f a system is running in dual DDR? I have 2 512 Meg sticks in slots 1/3 and Sandra reports 1024 Meg avail, as well as XP Pro. I have not seen anything in the bios to enable/disable, so is it an automatic thing that is sensed when in the right slots at the right size?
Nickursis

It's all auto detect by BIOS. Disable the BIOS startup screen in BIOS and you'll get info from your BIOS while it start detecting components and hardwares installwithin the system.
If it says Dual Channel or Linear Dual Channel, means Dual Channel is activated.

DDR combo question ??

i have a Neo2-PFS platinum edtion mobo and i want to overclock my comp. i also have 2x256 ddr500 a-data vietese and 2x256 samsun ddr400 rams..........my question is should i put all of my ram togather making it 1gb......or should i use a special combo or arrangement to my max overclock.......is it good mixing ddr500 with ddr400 ?? any ideas

cool.....i'll try it soon...........by the way my bios in my mobo is 3.5......should i ungrade to 3.A the latest one..........i heard that the 3.A one lowers the ddr max voltage......the bios for 3.5 is able to set the max ddr volt at 3V but i heard that the 3.A has the highest volt of 2.8.......? any ideas

DDR RAM voltage question

i have some sort of the K8N Neo4-F/FI (dunno exactly) with a pair of 512MB ddr ram 400MHz (hyundai chips)
i don't overclock at all, everything is at the default settings.
yet if i go to the bios and check the ddr settings, the voltage is 2.65V, i haven't changed this, this is the default setting.
shouldn't the ddr rams run at 2.5V by default? so why is mine running at 2.65? can i reduce it back to 2.5? i don't want any damage to my ram and i want them to last long.

Quote from: bsh on 25-January-07, 19:54:59
just found on wikipedia, that ddr operates at 2.5V.
it really depends on the chip. since i don't think that hyundai makes mem chips, i'm guessing that you have hynix chips. the majority of the hynix chips on the DDR memories out there are either D43 or D5. both of them have a stock voltage of 2.5V, but the D43 has a max recommended voltage of 2.9V while for the D5 this is 3V. so i would say, you're safe till 2.9V anyway.

DDR II question

Hi!
Since memory is so cheap nowadays I'm considering an upgrade to 4gb, however I'm still using the 32-bit version of winxp pro and I've heard there are some issues regarding 4gigs of ram or more and 32-bit operating systems. Anyone care to enlighten me?
At the moment I'm using 2x1024 Corsair XMS2-5400 TWIN2X2048-5400C4 4-4-4-12, but two packs of Corsair XMS2-6400 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 4-4-4-12 Xtreme 2x1024MB costs next to nothing at the moment. Is it worth removing the two old 5400 modules replacing them with the 6400 version or just go with another 2x1024 5400 package?

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I've heard there are some issues regarding 4gigs of ram or more and 32-bit operating systems. Anyone care to enlighten me?
There are no real issues with 4Gb of memory and 32bit operating systems. What you mean is the 32bit limitation itself.
Read here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108883.0

DDR RAM question?

I have K7n2. I have been using 256MB PC2100(266mhz), the system run great. I just purchased a 256MB PC2700(333mhz). I installed and the system is very unstable. It crashed in games. I ran memtest, it show a lot of errors. Both RAM are same manufacture. Do I have to adjust something in the BIOS for the pc2700 to work?

Thanks for responding.
I tested the pc2700 by itself. It caused the system to be very unstable. Is there something in the BIOS i have to set in order to work? From what i know, that i don't have to set anything.

MSI GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128 DDR (Direct3D problem)

I bought the MSI GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128 DDR just today and I seem to be experiencing Direct3D issues. I never have problems with general use of the video card, but when I try to play games that require 3D acceleration I get crashes (Blue screen of Death). The reason why I think it is the Direct3D is because I only get problems when attempting to run 3D accelerated games, and I've downloaded a couple video test programs off of the net and they have crashed when testing 3D as well. ?( I just ran dxdiag and it failed when I test Direct3D:
Direct3D test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x887602eb (error code)
Questions: Has anyone had this issue before and is it fixable without me returning the card for a different one?
Thanks,
Brent

Sorry about that, I should have put that in the first message.
I run Win 2000 server and I did a clean install (format drive) when I got the new video card. I have a Pentium 3, 800 Mhz 256 MBs RAM. The motherboard is an AOpen AX3S with all Intel chips.
My previous video Card was an ATI Rage Fury 32 MB and it ran all my games with Direct3D, but usually with low frames per second.
The only thing I changed was the video card and the drivers of course. I'm really trying to avoid sending the card back. ;( Any suggestion would be helpful.. Thank you!
Brent
P.S. I tried to run that 3D Mark program that people use to test their video cards and that failed before it finished, so my score must be 0.

K7N2 Delta Onboard Sound Disable Question

I have a K7N2 Delta motherboard with a MSI FX5600 256MB DDR video card. I am currently using the onboard audio. Ever since I first built this computer I have been having nearly every game I play on it lock up and freeze. I am thinking that it is a sound issue that is causing this problem, so I want to install a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live. I have several questions that I hope someone can answer as I have exhausted all avenues and still don't have any answers. Here are my questions:
1. How do I disable the onboard sound? ie Which jumper is it and what are the
jumper settings?
2. Which PCI slot is recommended for installing the sound card so that I won't
any IRQ conflicts?
3. Is this actually an audio problem or is there something else wrong with this
motherboard or video card?
This is becoming very frustrating because when the computer locks up all I can do is just reset without shutting down. I'm becoming more and more worried that if this continues unabated I'm going to crash the hard drive and have to replace it only to have the problem persist. I hope someone can give me specific answers to my questions. Thank you in advance for your help.

First. Is it K7N2 Delta-L or Delta-ILSR (the one with an actual Soundstorm chip on it)? If you have the actual Soundstorm chip, use it! It will sound much better than an SBLive. Assuming you have the normal K7N2 Delta-L like I have:
1. To disable the onboard sound, first uninstall the drivers for it, then you need to go into the BIOS by holding the Delete key while you boot up. Then find the section "Integrated Peripherals" and in that section "Onboard Devices". Press Enter and find AC97 Audio and disable it. There are no jumpers.
2. PCI slots 1, 2 and 3 are usually not shared with other stuff like you AGP or USB ports. PCI Slot 3 is the ideal choice. 1 is usually covered by your video card fan anyway. For the SBLive, on Windows XP/2000, get the newest drivers from Creative Labs. The file is named "LiveDrvUni-Pack(ENG).exe" and it's file size is 23.3 MB (24,451,404 bytes). They have fixed the "nforce2 + gameport incompatibility".
3. The problem may be audio related...or not. Which drivers are/were you using for your onboard audio? nvidia or Realtek? Actual Soundstorm chip or crappy software codec? It could also be video card related. Fastwrites? 8x or 4x AGP?

Question about memory expansion on Satellite A80-117

I have a question regarding the memory compatibility.
(The A8-117 is a 1.6 GHz Centrino (Pentuin M processor 730) with 533 MHz FSB, and 2 MB of 2nd level cache, Intel® 915GM Express chipset)
At the moment i have 1 chip of 512MB (333MHz, CL 2.5) installed. I plan to upgrade to 1.5 or 2GB. So what bothers me is: can I install a 533MHz DDR2 modules on this laptop (in that case the old 333MHz one goes out)?
At the official Toshiba site only 333MHz DDR are provided, while the 915GM express chipset allowes it.
If 533 is not possible i guess i'll just buy additional 1GB of 333MHz DDR.
Thanks in advance!
Bostjan

Hello
At first I want to say that is always recommended to use compatible and tested RAM modules. On this way you will be sure it will work well and without any problems.
According the notebook specification you can upgrade RAM to 2GB max and compatible modules are: PC2700 512MB (PA3312U-2M51) and PC2700 1024MB (PA3313U-2M1G).
You can use faster RAM modules but for me it is really not necessary. The notebook specification is 333MHz bus speed and faster modules will not help that notebook runs faster. It is better to buy 2 x PA3313U-2M1G and you will have no problem and notebook will runs much much faster than before.

Memory question

I have a couple of questions about memory.
1. I have Corsair TwinX XMS PC3200 2x1024mb. settings at corsair are 2.5-3-3-6 It shows up in speedfan as:
FSB-DRAM................. CPU/14
CAS# Latency............. 3.0 clocks
RAS#to CAS# Delay..... 3 clocks
Ras Precharge...............3 Clocks
Cycle Time(tras).............7 Clocks
Bank Cycle Time(trc)......10 clocks
DRAM IdleTimer.............16 clocks
I just want to run it at a better speed to get the most out of it.
2. Plus my MB supports DDR266/333/400 modules. Does that mean I can't run the 433/500/533/550?
When I started to overclock I had the DRAM set on 400 and with the OC it went to 424. with no problems. Then I had to drop it to 333 to keep OCing and got the DRAM up to 198 running stable. I had to drop the FSB so eventually the DRAM went to 184. I ran Sandra with the 424mhs setting and the 184mhz setting and the 184mhz setting was really a lot quicker...so I stayed there.
Now how can I get better speeds out of the memory? Would it be better to buy a different memory to achieve my goals?

MR,
You Stated :
1. I have Corsair TwinX XMS PC3200 2x1024mb. settings at corsair are 2.5-3-3-6 It shows up in speedfan as:
FSB-DRAM................. CPU/14
CAS# Latency............. 3.0 clocks
RAS#to CAS# Delay..... 3 clocks
Ras Precharge...............3 Clocks
Cycle Time(tras).............8 Clocks
Bank Cycle Time(trc)......12 clocks
DRAM IdleTimer.............16 clocks
I just want to run it at a better speed to get the most out of it.
The figures you posted above look more like figure you would have gotten from the memory Tab in CPU Z. Can you confirm this and also post all figures you get form the SPD Tab in CPU Z regarding your RAM. If you RAM setting are set to Auto in BIOS then the above figures are really your SPD readings that were applied by your BIOS Auto RAM setting feature. The CPU Z SPD read out will confirm this. If this is the Case then you have Corsair TwinX2048-3200 Kit (3-3-3-8) vice the TwinX2048-3200C2 (2--3-3-6*) with the asterix annotated as [* These parts support 2-3-3-6 latency on Intel platforms, and 2.5-3-3-6 latency on AMD platforms.]. Double check your product number on your RAM and pay perticular attention to letters and/or numbers after TwinX2048-3200....> Check result against listing the TwinX matched pair memory listing here http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html
Plus my MB supports DDR266/333/400 modules. Does that mean I can't run the 433/500/533/550?
You could likely use memory up to DDR 500 on your board if you wanted to OC and leave ram at 1:1 ratio. Higher memory would be wasted money.
Good luck,

Memory question (yes, another)

ok, i have ddr memory rated for 200mhz, and the fsb of my processor is 333 mhz.
i was reading a thread on a corsair forum from a guy with my exact motherboard
AND memory, but a slightly lesser processor (a-xp 2500 vs a-xp2800, both barton333)
he says:
1. Motherboard is as started above: MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR
2. Processor is Athlon XP 2500+ Barton (333 FSB)
3. CPU multiplier is unlocked so I can alter RAM to 200FSB and lower multiplier to
ensure that speed is the same.
4. Running Dual Channel mode.
i know a 1:1 ratio is best, but to GET such a ratio, is there any practical difference
between:
a) setting the memory to 166 and the ratio (manually) to 1:1
b) setting the memory to 200 and reducing the multiplier, as he's done.
i assume by multiplier he means the fsb:dram ratio - please correct me if i'm wrong.
thanks!

Quote from: Grayone on 27-December-05, 03:39:37
Having the cpu multiplier unlocked does nothing to affect the memory speed.
after closer reading, he says he's running at 2.3 ghz, by changing his processor to
200mhz * 11. something i definitely don't want to do even with my 2800!
with that in mind, i think he meant in terms of upping the processor to match
the memory (or buying faster memory to match his already oc/d psu) - and my
question is moot, for my purposes. (feel free to delete!)

Memory question...ocz El Rev 2

Just put my system together. It has the 1.1 bios. I put in 2 512MB sticks of OCZ EL Rev. 2 Platinum. Sticks are in the 2 slots closest to the CPU. I've read that there may be some problems with 2 sticks of double sided ram. My machine will post if I use only 1 stick in slot 1. or it will post and read the full 1 GB if I put the sticks in Slots 1 & 3.
When it does post, it comes up as DDR333 Single channel, 64-bit, mem clock is 166Mhz
Tcl:2, Trcd:2, Tras:5 Trp:5 (2t Timing)
DDR Dimm at rows 0 1 4 5
How can I get the machine to recognize both sticks of dual-sided memory?
Maybe a stupid question, but....if the BIOS version has something to do with this problem, is there some way to update it before I install windows XP?
I guess I can use 1 stick and install everything, and then add the other after I flash the BIOS (if this is a BIOS related problem).

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Originally posted by andygold
Well, I updated the BIOS to version 1.3 (up from 1.1), and the machine posts and seems to run fine now....althought the first boot after installing the second stick of ram, the machine came up into Windows, and when I tried to access a website, I got a BSOD, which flashed onto the screen for a split second, dissappeared, and the machine powered off(dropped dead). It's been running for a few hours since the reboot, with no problems.
The rams manually set at 2,2,2,5 {2T}, (or maybe it 2,2,5,2 {2T}...depends on how you read it), with the memory voltage set at 2.75(BIOS is flashing red as though it doesn't like this, but that's the proper voltage according to OCZ. I've got FSB at 200, AGP freq. at 67.
My other settings, although I don't know if they're good or not are:
High Performance mode = manual
aggressive timing = disabled
dynamic overclocking = disabled
spread spectrum = disabled
HT freq. = 5x .....is this the multiplier x fsb to =1000?
cool 'n' quiet = disabled
adjust CPU ratio = "startup"...not sure if this good
adjust CPU VID = 1.500v ...not too sure about this either
CPU voltage = "by CPU vid" not sure on this either
AGP voltage = 1.50v ....not sure once again
ACTUALLY I"M NOT SURE OF ANY OF THE ABOVE, BUT I GLEENED MOST OF IT FROM THIS FORUM
For info purposes, I have the 2 sticks in DIMM slots 3 and 4, with slots 1 and 2 empty. The Zalman fan sits on top of slot 1, and although when the DIMM is in this slot it does not hit the CPU's heatsink, I didn't want to keep bending the fins, during the removal and replacement. I don't believe there's any problem with this memory placement, acording to the mobo manual, but if anyone disagrees, please post.
So, to sum up, it appears the updated BIOS seems to have solved the problem!
Any thoughts on the rest of the settings would be greatly appreciated!!!!
"Bending the fins"??? Do you mean it is NOT possible to use the memories in slots 1, 2 with this Zalman without bending the fins? Oh god... I just got one today...
MSI and everybody recommend the memory at slots 1,2.

Memory upgrade question / mixing dimms

Hi ,
i`m wanting to add another 1gb of ram to my 875P Neo-FIS2R. I currently have 2 x kingston kvr400x64c25/512 512mb ddr400 cl2.5 and want to add
a couple more. I`ve seen slightly cheaper (and in stock) the VR400X64C3A/512 (512MB 400MHz DDR CL3 Non-ECC 3-3-3 DIMM).
question is will this new pair work ok with my existing pair?
thanks in advance
Paul

Here's a link to the Test Report for your board. Scroll down to the memory pic and click on it. Then scroll down to the PC3200 area, that will list approved RAM for your mainboard.
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6758/memory.pdf

An old question re: "file not compatible with this version of Photoshop"

Hi All. I'm a new member of forum with an old question.
Running:
MAC OSX 10.3.9
G5
Dual 1.8 Ghz
1.5 GB DDR SDRAM
Norton Autoprotect
Nortons Firewall
Antivrus 9.0.4
Liveupdate 3.0.3
CS2
MAC is kept clear of clutter and has plenty of space in all areas. Everything is stored on Xternal HD.
In recent weeks I have been receiving the above error message when trying to open existing CS2 layered files.
I have searched forums including these and tried everything which has been suggested: Shut down Nortons. Worked only from HD. No networks. Tried opening with PS 7 in Classic. IR. Illustrator. Graphic Convertor. Changed to .tif, .tiff.
Opening files with CS is one thing I have not tried, I have not been able to find a version of 8 anywhere to buy or download.
I have not had any success recovering layered files, it seems that once a file has corrupted in this way there is little or no chance of recovery.
Having rebuilt many complex files from scratch I am naturally concerned I will have the same trouble with those. To try and avoid problems my latest files are made up of simple CMYK photographic images in multiple layers - no text, no smart layers, no groups.
But a simple file made yesterday gave me same error message today.
So today I have started saving many versions of the same file, an RGB version (so I can possible open in IR), a different name, a version as a tif, a psd, I'm keeping a version on HD which i am working on, and numerous other versions on a LACIE Xternal HD.
Does anyone have any idea at which point in the process the file actually corrupts? Is it during saving or when sitting on HD, or is it during the opening process? Or is while working on the file?
Some discussions suggest that if you are able to actually open a file, a corrupt layer is found and deleted and this resolves the problem.
If there are a number of saved versions of same file, is it likely that they will all be corrupt or might some be ok?
I am considering upgrading to a new, more powerful MAC and a later version of PS. Does the same error crop up on these later versions? Most of the forum discussions go back a couple of years so does that mean some of these issues have been resolved in recent months?
I imagine that it may be the opposite, ie, the more complex the programme becomes and the more virus protection etc we put on our MACS the more likely there will be problems.
A lot of questions (and line spacing!), for which I apologise, but any thoughts or up to date comments would be very welcome.
Thanks
Paul

i havent had nortons running for sometime to try and avoid this ps
problem and although i cant really be sure there dont appear to be have
been any virus problems.
except of course the ps error. which is occurring with or without
nortons turned on. i may uninstall it and see if that helps.
bearing in mind that i am not working over networks do you think this
issue is a ps bug pure and simple or as a result of some combo of other
programme such as nortons affecting ps. in other words would a mac only
running ps still encounter the same errors?

Questions on temps and ide3 usability

Hello,
As you can tell I'm new to the forum. I've recently destroyed my Gateway for a great reason and have spent over 850 dollars upgrading. In the price includes a p4 2.4c ghz processor, 865PE Neo-2 board, 2 - 256 mb pc3200 ddr kingston memory (dual channel), Antec case, 300 watt Antec power supply, Geforce Fx 5700 Ultra 128 mb 4x/8x Vid card.
Now to my questions -
My hard drives are both different brands and different sizes. One, my primary, is a Maxtor 80 gigabyte Ultra ata 133 hard drive w/8mb cache @ 7200 rpm. My secondary drive used just for storage of data is a Western Digital 40 gigabyte ata 100 w/2mb cache @ 7200 rpm. On my board there are 2 ata 33/66/100 slots and one ata133 slot. My question is can I use the Maxtor hard drive on ide3 to utilize the ata133 and leave the Western Digital on the regular ide and boot from the Maxtor?
Second issue is this -
It's slightly in the process of being altered very soon anyway but..... My cpu is running at 48 - 52C at all times. My BIOS settings are DOT - General, Performance - Turbo/Ultra - Turbo with no extra overclocking and manual dram timings. Is the DOT and Performance settings causing me to have high temps? I'm running the stock speeds as well as the stock heatsink and fan that came with my new processor and using just the thermal pad and no thermal paste.
Thanks anyone and everyone who reads my post. Special thanks to anyone that responds
Brandon

So you're saying I need to reformat the drive and then go from there? Loading Windows Xp and installing my RAID drivers. That's not a problem but I just wanted to clarify things a bit.
As for core center, that thing is EXTREMELY buggy. I locked up my system many times just opening the program let alone changing any settings. DO NOT click the "Default" button on that program. Bad bad things happen.
I have speedfan installed on my computer but use it only for system temps as for the fact that I'm unsure of how to use it to overclock. I've never overclocked before so that's the major problem. I've also heard a program called "Coolbits" is one of the best for overclocking?
Thanks again.
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Yes, you can use the 133 slot for your maxtor, but under certain circumstances only. IDE3 is on the RAID controller, so make sure when you install xp, it will ask if you need to install any 3rd party raid or SCSI controllers, you need to use that disk that came with your mobo for that.
When you go turbo on the DOT, make sure your FSB is set to 201, it HAS to be @ 201 (thx riley).
Make sure you set your ram voltage to at LEAST 2.6, 2.7 is preferable.
And dont even THINK about OC'ing w/ that stock Heatsink w/o any compound.
Check out some ThermalTake or Zalmon Cooling soultions and get some Silver Thermal Compound. Heat is the O/C'ers killer.
Also make sure to get the newest CoreCenter if your using that.
But i would use SpeedFan instead of CoreCenter, just pop in Speedfan @ google.

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