DDTS 100 capable of virtual surround on headphone outputs?

I was wondering if the DDTS-100 is capable of virtual surround on the headphone outputs when input is Dolby Surround or DTS?

It's a basic stereo downmix (or at least much more basic than say CMSS3DHeadphone). When headphones are plugged the 'Stereo' LED is always lit.

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Creative DDTS-100 Decoder - Stereo - Surround

Hello,
I ordered the DDTS-100 and stands with the Ddts-100 now before a problem.
I wanted to connect the dvd-player and tv with the DDTS-100 and enjoy then surround sound, but I heared that this the DDTS-100 not really can do, tune that?
If I cannot let stereo sound on 5.1 sound, for what is the decoder then good?
Thanks for your answers.

i have the exact same problem
i bought it so that i could use the dolby prologic II from my playstation, everything works except for the sub-signal
if i use the test function on the remote control, the sub does work though
i tried optical in (all 3 of'm), analog in (all 3), different cables, different games, different speakers
i tried it with the optical out from nvidia soundstorm, but no sub-signal either
and when i use the nvidia test function, the sub makes a noise again
i bought this because most reviews where rather positive about this product, and now it's kinda useless, racing / gaming / watching a movie without bass is ridiculous
please give us some help
Message Edited by jakkerd on 04-02-2005 09:43 AM
Message Edited by jakkerd on 04-02-2005 09:44 AM

Help connect X-fi Elite Pro with DDTS-100 and Gigaworks s750

Hi,
I purchased a brand new Gigaworks s750 speakers system, DDTS-100 decoder and X-fi Elite Pro. I connected the DDTS-100 and Elite Pro using Optical Fibre output from the audio console of X-fi Elite Pro to the optical digital input of DDTS-100. With the cables supplied with s750, I connected it to the Decoder DDTS-100. The problem is I am not getting any sound from the rear speakers and the front speakers. Only the centre speakers and the side speakers are producing sound. I could hear loud hissing sound and very very low volume of the music from the front speakers and no sound from the rear speakers. I can hear good quality sound from the centre speakers and average quality sound from the side speakers. What could possibly have gone wrong with my setup ? Somebody please help me. Thanx in advance.

Hi Richie,
Thanq for your response. But unlike what you have mentioned, ("what may be happining is the soundcard is decoding the signal and then the ddts is trying to decode it with disatrous results"), In my setup the signal is not getting decoded two times, once by Soundcard and once by the DDTS-100. As I have mentioned that I am taking out an Optical Signal from the sound card to the DDTS-100, the signal comming out from the sound card to the DDTS is Encoded signal only. So there doesnt arise a chance that the signal is getting decoded twice. Can you think of any other reason why my setup is not working? Please let me know.
regards,
Rahul M

Equalizer for DDTS-100

Why doesn't Creative sell an equalizer for the DDTS-100 that could take in the speaker outputs, equalize according to preset buttons on the equalizer panel, and then feed the equalized signals through an optical output to the DDTS-100? I realize you could run everything through the PC, but training a non savvy computer user to deal with that is cumbersome if not impossible.
If Creative has no equalizer that is hardware based, does anyone know of any third party product that could take the three speaker signals, provide equalization, and then provide the equalized outputs to the speakers?

I appreciate your desire to hear the recording the way the creators intended to be heard. The problem is, you won't. You don't have the exact same speaker system they had, with its unique strengths and weaknesses, and you can be assured that whatever you play back on your speakers, it won't be what was recorded, at least not to a discriminating ear.
The point of an equalizer is to compensate for weaknesses in the playback system, not to remix the music to your liking. Of course if you occasionally try to alter the sound, that's not a crime either.
Anyway, your solution is to feed a DTS or Dobly 5.1 signal to a computer, decode on the computer, equalize on the computer, and playback on the computer?

DDTS-100 + Zalman 5.1 headphones...will be good ???

Hi guys, i have a mobo with Soundstorm2 and i heard that this card has a excellent digital output....so i want to buy a DDTS-100 decoder to connect with my Zalman 5.1 headphones.....what do you think ?
Thanks in advance for any opinions

I would be careful about the Zalman ZM-RS6F headphones. I don't know if the same problem exists with the newer cards, but I have been having problems with Zalman ZM-RS6F-M headphones interfacing to my SoundBlaster (SB) cards. I suspect it may be that the Zalman interface may not match the standard 3 plug 5.1 surround sound interface.
For my money, if you want good surround sound in a headphone I would get the LTB-USB headphones. If you want a microphone with them, get the LTB-USB-M headphones. They sound great and installation is a snap.
Any way, back to the Zalman's:
I currently have two systems, one with an Athlon 64 3500+ running an SB Live! 24 bit and another with a P4 3.02Gig running an SB 6 bit (or 4 bit's -- it came from my Gateway) card.
The Zalman headphones sound very muddy when connected to the 24 bit card, the volume is very low, and I don't seem to have any bass. In 5.1 mode, there seems to be fairly good location for FL, FC, FR, RR, and RL speakers, but there is no sound when the subwoofer activates. When in Americas Army (AA), you can't even hear anyone walking.
The Zalmans sound a little better with the 6 (4?) bit card, but still are rather muddy and the lack of bass is less noticeable. For many uses, the sound can be fairly well corrected by boosting the bass and treble. When using AA, while footsteps can be heard somewhat, directional sense is worse and footsteps still are way too muffled to be noticeable -- they are much harder to hear than with our old Plantronics stereo speakers.
I am guessing that there are several possible causes for this problem:
1) Interface Incompatibility: When looking at the docs for the SB 24 and the Zalman headphones, I noticed that while the Zalman docs label the 3 plugs as Front, Rear and Center (I assume they are referring to the front, rear and center drivers in each of the headset cans) while the SB24 labels its receptacles as 1,2,and 3. My limited understanding of the typical 5.1 interface is that:- Plug carries both sides of rear (or front, I can't remember)- Plug 2 carries both sides of the other (front or rear)- Plug 3 carries Front Center (FC) and the Subwoofer
If the SB is using the third receptacle for FC and Subwoofer and the Zalman wants it to be Right Center and Left Center, this could be a problem.
2) Impedence Mismatch: I could not find the output impedence of the SB 24 on the site so I was unable to check on whether there is an impedence mismatch between the Zalmans and the SB. If anyone has this information could you please post it's
3) Incorrect driver settings
4) Defective Material: Either the SB 24 or the Zalmans could be defective. (Note: the SB 24 works just fine in stereo headphone mode)
Any assistance in diagnosing this frustrating problem would be greatly appreciated.

Question about the Headphone Jacks on the DDTS-100

This is probably a strange question, but I am goona ask anyway...
Anyone know whether the headphone jacks on the DDTS-100 gets Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Pro Logic II? I know it supports it for speakers, but I am unsure about headphones.
I am considering buying this with Medusa 5.1 Headphones, and I am trying to figure out whether the Dolby Pro Logic II would work with those.
From what I understand regular 5.1 Headphones do not use the 5 channels unless it is a 5 channel source like a DVD. What I am thinking is that the Dolby Pro Logic II on the decoder might solve that?
Would this work?
Thanks for your time!

Thank you both very much for your help!
Yes, I was considering pluging it in exactly as ya just mentioned connecting the headphones via the speaker ports, since the Medusa Headphones do have the same plugs as the 5.1 speakers.
Soo, that might work then? Cool! ty
Now that I look at it, the headphones instructions on the cords on the net mentions pluging it in exactly like that.
Thanks again!,
MMPD
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Surround sound quality of DDTS-100 Vs A/V receiver's

I want to buy a decoder DDTS-100 to Upmix the stereo sound to 5.1 surround by hooking up to my A/V receiver Harman Kardon AVR 7000 as the surround sound upmixed by the AVR is not so good. Could anyone help give me the advice if the DDTS-100 could give the better surround than Harman Kardon does?

I think that you are out of luck as the table shows on page 62 of your manual at http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS350_US.pdf
Note 1 on this table says "When Audio Output Priority is set to stereo analog, LPCM 2ch signals are output from each jack. I would check this setting. I would also check out notes 2 and 4. According to their own table, the player should output bitstream in 5.1 D or DTS.
Out on http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1046952&page=3 it appears that another person is having the same issue and someone recommended this:
Double check the following settings:
Audio Output Priority: HDMI
Audio HDMI: Auto
BD Audio Setting: Direct
Audio ATT: Off
Dolby Digital: Dolby Digital
DTS: DTS
Audio DRC: Standard
Hope this helps....
I do not work for Best Buy and am not affiliated with them in any way. I like HT and want to help people improve their HT experience. "There is a LOT more than just having a TV to make a home theater"

DDTS-100 loud headphone hiss, but not from speaker out?

It would seem I've lucked out big time with the 550 & ddts-100 purcahse. I'm looking into what the supplier can do for me regards the 550 as Creative are as useless as ever.
However, last nite I noticed that both headphone jacks on the DDTS-100 decoder produce a very noticeable amount of hiss, but the speaker outputs on the back do NOT. The hiss is there will everything unplugged from the unit.
This is the exact situation as I have with the 550 in reverse - there is was perfect with headphone, but hiss on the speakers. With the decoder it's the speakers that are fine (if using something other than my 550's lol but headphones are hissy as.
What gives? Why is this, and more to the point, should it be like that? Can anyone else with a ddts-100 report in? My headphones are not cheap crap either, they're probably about US$250, and Senheisers.

Nah, there is no volume control on the headphones, and even speakers attached directly to the headphone jack get hiss. It's weird, the headphone jack outputs at a much lower line level (I need to set the DDTS-100 line level much higher) but yet there is more hiss. It must be coming from a seperate circuit than the speaker outs.
I'd really like to hear back from other people with DDTS-100s as to how their ones work - hiss or no hiss.
Thanks,
Josh

DDTS 100 and stereo surround.

Hi.
I recently bought the DDTS 100 Decoder and I was wondering if I can have a stereo surround output (the two stereo channels from both front and rear speakers) from a stereo source via its analog inputs (such as an mp3 player) or another digital source via the coaxial input (ex. Boss GT6 Guitar multieffects processor).

No, Im afraid the ddts-100 lacks this feature.

DDTS-100 and Apple Powerbook

My question is, since Apple PowerBook has a normal stereo output (for headphones, stereo speakers, etc.), would I be able to connect it with DDTS-100?
I have Creative Inspire 5300 (5.1 speakers) and I'd like to up-mix all content that will be playbacked on my PowerBook (music, movies...), but I don't know if PB and DDTS-100 connection is possible (couldn't find any back image of the decoder). I saw a switch box, but I'm not sure if that is packed together with the decoder, which looked promising and I think that it would work as I want it to.
So, if anyone could tell me which cable do I need to connect those two (I don't know all those names, RCA, 3.5 mm, whatever it's all called) and if it will all work as I imagined, I'd be very satisfied, because I'm planning to buy DDTS-100 (since PB has only stereo ouput and I don't want to give up surround sound).
I hope someone can understand what I want, if not... well, guess I'll have to try harder.

danijelr5,
Yes it should be able to work fine. You can find the user guide for the DDTS100 via here. The guide have those images you need. The cable you will need is the minijack to dual rca cable.
Jason

Connecting creative inspire 6600 to the ddts-100 decoder

ok so i was sedused by the idea of getting a ddts-100 to my inspire 6600 speakers,but the fact is i need to know some information:
the first thing is:will i be able to connect my speakers to the decoder and then to the soundcard?
my speakers have only RCA jacks for the satellites to connect them to the amp,and the amp have 3 assebled wires,3.5mm ones...my soundcard have also 3 connectors for the speakers,no digital output or optical,..only 3 connectors for the 3.5mm...so will i be able to connect it and then will it be able to reproduce sound like it was doing before?
2-the decoder says it can decode dolby digital ex,dts es,i don't know if i am saying this right but,sometimes we say decoding in 24bits/96khz .....its the dvd quality right? then will the decoder DECODE the dvd source in 24bits/96khz or is it the job of the soundcard?
3-will the decoder improve the listening experience in quality or surround?in case of dvd playing i know it would,but in case of listening to music?

shin8,
Are you getting proper output if you use the "TEST" button on the remote control?
Daniel

Help.. What sound card to go with ddts 100??

HI everyone,?I just bought my samsung lcd tv and i am very anxious to get the ddts-100. But the problem now is: What sound card should i get? Get a Xi-Fi Extreme Music or just a cheaper soundcard will do since the decoding will be done by the decoder. Can anyone advise on this? I hope to spend lesser on the sound card but if it is really needed then i will get good one. Thanks.
Regards,Kekin

Bear in mind the DDTS-100 will only decode Dolby and DTS (and their varieties). That is, it will happily decode the surround from a dvd (assuming your soundcard and software passes it over the digital) but it will only get stereo when gaming or using CMSS for music.
So, the DDTS-100 is a great partner to a standalone dvd player, games console, and whatever else you have hooked up to the tv. It will also play nice when watching dvds on the pc. It has a good upmixer for music and stereo tv too. If thats roughly what you had planned then it will fit that role nicely. Its also more convenient than switching manually over to the pc (with the switcher box) when you want to use it instead of the decoder.
If you were planning to do everything on the pc then it may be a bit pointless as your soundcard and software could do it all instead. Also, i suspect the quality will be better from a decent X-Fi than the DDTS-100 but havent got around to doing a comparison yet.

DDTS-100, Megaworks 710D, SB Live! 5.1

I use the digital out minijack of my SoundBlaster Live! Player 5.1. It is connected to the co-axial digital in on the DDTS-100. I am just wondering what settings I should use in Creative Surround Sound Mixer and Windows control panel (sounds & audio devices) as the speakers are 7.1, but I reckon as far as the PC is concerned the output is stereo (when not an AC3 stream). So, do I have windows and surround mixer set for 5.1, 7.1 or stereo speakers?
thanks in advance
dave

No, I really can't complain at all about the setup.
I use Windows Media Player for my 4000-odd tunes. The DDTS is set to Neo:6 music most of the time, with the speakers set to upmix from 6.1 to 7.1. The sound is absolutely awesome!!!
When watching tv i flick it onto dolby pro logic 2, and change the speakers to upmix 5.1->7.1. Again, sound is superb! Just before the Star Wars trilogy came out on DVD I watched my VHS tapes, and due to the witchcraft and wizardry Creative have provided me with, I can honestly say that the sound quality and surroundiness was nearly as good as the DVDs are themselves.
I would thoroughly reccommend the DDTS / S750 combo to anyone, and even with my oldish SB Live! card the sound is superb, clear, and best of all, LOUD.
An Audigy 2 may be on the cards for Christmas though..........

DDTS-100 + i-Trigue 5600 + CH-DVD 462 center channel issue? Please help...

Hi there,
I'm having some problems with this setup.
My DVD player is set to RAW output.
All cables are connected properly (checked, double checked)
When playing most 5.1 content (Dolby Digital track from DVDs) surround works perfectly except for the center channel. It's completely deaf. If I set the decoder to Stereo output, it works, so I know it's not the speakers. I tried some tests (7.1 THX Optimizer tests present on some SW DVDs) and the center channel works here (but the other ones are sort of messed up), so I assume it's not the decoder either.
I tried the center/sub switching cable that came with my last speaker set, and though it does switch the channels (I can hear mumbling dialogs in the sub channel) the center channel remains deaf.
So I know that the sound actually makes it out of the DVD (RAW is RAW) to DDTS-100 and from DDTS-100 to the speaker set (yep, the signal's here but I can't hear).
I should mention that I used competetive speakers before and had a similiar issue with the subwoofer channel - it made sound only for the LFE DVD channel as those speakers were not doing subwoofer channel computing (AFAIK Creatives do (bad bad bad bad)), but I assume DDTS and i-Trigue 5600 are supposed to be compatible...
I'm completely puzzled. Any suggestions?

shin8,
Are you getting proper output if you use the "TEST" button on the remote control?
Daniel

DDTS 100 coaxial mode stuck to stereo

Im a newbie when it comes to surround sounds.
I just bought DDTS100 because I want to take advantage of the digital output from my new Audigy 2 ZS soudcard and i need a decoder for my 5.1 speaker (Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1). I plugged everything according to instructions, using coaxial digital output from my soundcard. However, the DDTS is STUCK TO STEREO MODE, I cannot make it to switch to Dolby Digital PL II, or DTS NEO. I enabled digital output only and enabled SPDIF passthrough (DD/DTS digital out)on Creative audio settings. I tried playing DVD movies with Dolby digital & DTS and MP3/wave music but i get same result. It makes my speaker work as 2.1 in stereo mode and the signals are crappy in DVD movies. Analog output does work well with movies or music as i tried using analog from my soudcard,I can switch to DD PLII and DTS with no problem. I haven't tried optical output since my soudcard does'nt have one.
I just want my coaxial/digital mode to work on DD PL II and DTS, please ideas anyone?

What connection did you use? SPDIF / digital or analog? Did you connect your speaker directly to your DDTS-100 or to the switchbox that came with the DDTS-100?

DDTS 100 capable of virtual surround on headphone outputs?

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