Dead W700ds - chirping power supply

Hi all,
My w700ds suddenly died the other day. I went to turn it on (it had been in sleep mode) and go no response. None of the green LEDs are lighting, even when plugged in. The power supply, when plugged in, is making a chirping noise that is also slightly audible from close to the power connector on the laptop. I checked the voltage on the battery and it seems fully charged, but I cannot get any response from the machine on either battery or AC power. Any advice would be appreciated - the warranty expired in Nov. 2010.
Best regards,
John.

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