Deciding layers on dual layer DVD

Is it possible to controll what material comes on what layer on a dual layer DVD?
I can imagin it would be best if the feature movie and all related assets (5.1, stereo and commentators audiostreams) all reside on one layer, while the menues and everything els resides on the other layer.
Is this possible, and if so, how?
cordially
Per

You can make an estimate of the size of the assets (the audio is all on the same track if you are using alternate audio streams so really no way to move them unless using multiple video tracks with different audio)...you can move items in the outline view up and down to change the VTS is built to, and the first side has to be larger.
The real benefit is to keep things together so they do not have to cross the break point when playing
Menus are basically at the beginning of the disc

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Picking when to switch layers on dual layer DVDs

I hope somebody can help.
I'm burning a project that takes up more than a single layer. I've managed to get iDVD to burn it no problem. However, iDVD picks the spot where it switches to the second layer - right at the start of a piece of music. How do I pick the point (between scenes) when it switches. With the current project I only need to bring it forward by a couple of seconds. One option is just to add a 2 second black screen at the start of the film to move everything along slightly. However I'd prefer to be able to pick the place. I have iDVD 08 and Toast 6 titanium. I know I could probably do it with DVD Studio Pro but I'm not ready for the big upgrade to FC studio.
Any pointers or suggestions are welcome.

As you have found, you can not specify the layer break point with iDVD. Sorry.

Dual layer dvd burning

Hi,
I need some help regarding dual layer dvd burning.
I never burned a dual layer dvd before and am going to in the next few days for a big movie screening. So I better get this right.
How do I set the layer break? do I just set it to be automatic or should I set a chapter in the track? if yes, then where do I suppose to put the chapter.
Is there any advise regarding dual layer burning ? so that I have less possibilities of messing things up.
Its a 115 mins movie. Im planning to encode it with 6.5 avg 8 max.
Is it safe to put a lot of chapters in?
I won't have dvd menu. I will just set it to play straight away.
thanks.
Jack

I'm not an expert in the least but I have worked with duel layers and let me tell you than can be a real s.o.b. I'm not sure what the scoop is on them but they tend to glitch out while your burning. I made three and 1 worked perfect the other two not at all and for some reason the 1 that did work only played on about half of the DVD players they were played on. When I got it into a DVD player that worked the chapter markers were not a problem. I had four seperate segments that were linked up and played fine. We used this for a screening in front of about 400 people.
Our feature was about the same length as yours so after the screening we decided to just take the quality down a little (which you can't even tell) and put it on a normal DVD R. We saved a ton in duplication.
Setting the Duel Layer is pretty easy, it's all in the inspector under the disc/volume tab but make sure that in your outline window the main DVD at the top is highlighted. I don't think it matters if you have a chapter in the middle of the footage or anything like that. You can just link up one long stream if needed. Be sure to try out the DVD on the actual player you are going to use. Good luck.

DVD RW DW-U10A won't read burned Dual Layer DVD

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Hi,
I've been having a similar issues since not long ago. I think it coincides with Apple,s last security update (although I can't swear the 2 are connected).
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I'm burning Dual Layers medias with Toast 7 (DATA, DVD-VIDEOS ETC). They all mount fine after and I can read the files etc. However if I insert the discs a few day slater, about 50% of them won't mount and are rejected without any error message!
Anyone else has this problem?

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But I tried inserting audio CDs, data DVDs (4GB max in size) and they seem to work and recognized by my mac. My mac doesn't recognize the installation discs only. I have even went the extra mile of purchasing another Snow Leopard installation disc and the disc, which is sealed, new and fresh from the store also got ejected by the machine. I have read somewhere that the installation discs are Dual Layer DVDs. Seems like my optical drive is not reading dual layers discs anymore.
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You can reset the SMC and see if that helps. If it's a unibody or Retina, follow the method for "a battery you should not remove yourself."
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964

Best compression setting 90min movie on Dual Layer DVD

Okay, I admit, I am a total n00b at this...so sorry if you have to break things down into the most basic terms...
I am trying to get the BEST quality I can for my adobe Encore project (for ease of calculation, 90min movie and added features). I was previously getting "exceeds dvd capacity" error in Encore.
I have decided to recompress and see what I can do to make it all fit, but first I want to re-evaluate my whole process...
the ultimate issue comes down to three things (i think)...
1. CBR v VBR?? what is better and why?
2. What Data Bit Rate to compress at and why?
3. Single layer DVD vs Dual Layer DVD? Which is better and why?
to begin the discussion, I'll tell you what I "know" and what I think.
It seems DVD players can only handle a max bit rate of 8mbps so I don't want to go over that and using a Dual layer disc I risk that it may not work on older players....also, the dual layer costs twice as much to duplicate (this sucks but money is not an issue at this point, quality is more important). From what I have read, constant Bit Rate @ 8mbps will give me the Best possible image... 8 is the max and so to encode at 8 the entire time should be the best.. will i have any issues with this? This is not an amateur home movie but rather an indie feature film so I want to get the best possible viewable product out to people. I will have blu-ray questions to come later (thats what we are going to send to festivals).
any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks so much...
chris

Okay, thanks for everyone's thoughts.
Question....
I totally understand not wanting to waste space on a dvd IF there was extra room.... HOWEVER, a movie at 90min with menus, etc. BARELY fits on a dvd at a 6.8mbps VBR compression rate....
therefore....why not just fork out the extra couple bucks and just compress the whole thing at 8.0mbps 2pass CBR, slap it on a dual layer and even though there will be parts of the movie that will be higher than necessary, and there will be leftover space on the dual layer dvd.... you will be guaranteed to have the highest quality right? heavy motion areas and more static areas will all be encoded at 8 and thus, the best....
am i wrong in thinking this?
and after some extensive reading and research....Although is says a dvd player can handle 9.8mbps..... it doesnt' seem safe to encode that high because a lot of players can't handle it.... what is everyone else's thoughts?
I found this:
Data rate
DVD-Video discs have a raw bitrate of 11.08 Mbit/s, with a 1.0 Mbit/s overhead, leaving a payload bitrate of 10.08 Mbit/s. Of this, up to 3.36 Mbit/s can be used for subtitles and a maximum of 9.80 Mbit/s can be split amongst audio and video. In the case of multiple angles the data is stored interleaved, and so there's a bitrate penalty leading to a max bitrate of 8 Mbit/s per angle to compensate for additional seek time. This limit is not cumulative, so each additional angle can still have up to 8 Mbit/s of bitrate available.
Professionally encoded videos average a bitrate of 4-5 Mbit/s with a maximum of 7–8 Mbit/s in high-action scenes. This is typically done to allow greater compatibility amongst players, and to help prevent buffer underruns in the case of dirty or scratched discs.

Burning to a dual layer DVD

Hello,
I've just finished a project that I want to take to a facility to have copies made. I've been told in the past that using a DVD-R can create problems with the copies when used in certain DVD players. I'm running DVD SP2 and I can't seem to get the program to accept anything but a DVD-R. Is this a preferences issue or should I take the actual Video and Audio TS and burn it straight to the dual layer DVD? Would appreciate any help?
John
PowerMac G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

It could be a hardware and/or software problem.
As far as Dual-Layer disks go ... I don't think they were around in the DVDSP 2 days... that's too long ago for me to know (without searching, and searching is your friend in this case).
Also your G4 might only have a DVD-R drive and that might be why DVD SP is only accepting DVD-R's. You most likely don't even have a Dual-Layer DVD drive unless you installed one later on in your G4.
How large is the Video_TS folder? You'd only need to burn it to a Dual Layer if it's >4.7gigs and even if it is you need to create a Dual-Layer break point in DVDSP to tell the disk when to switch over to the other layer on the disk. Or if it's just over 4.7 gigs (approx.) you can try and re-compress it and see if you can fit it onto one disk (which may be better for compatability issues, something you seem to be concerned about) - you may end up having more problems w/ Dual-Layers and players compared to DVD-R's and players.
Good Luck

Unable to burn Dual Layer DVD's with Toast

Hi all,
I'm having issues trying to burn dual layer dvd's with either Toast 10.0.8 or 11.0.1. I keep getting the Interface -50 error and sense key 0x02 error saying media is incompatible.
I have tried dvd's by DataWrite and Elite M and they both show error. It's strange though as I have been using previously purchased Elite M dual layer dvd's of the same spec as these newly purchased ones, and they worked fine!
My dvd drive is a standard OPTIARC AD-7170 that came with the Mac Pro as spec'd.
I am able to burn single layer fine, and dual layers are read. I'm just unable to write dual layer at the moment.
Any ideas? I'm stuck on what to do and what manufacturer's dual layer dvd's will work with this drive. It can just do +R DL.
Could it be I've been unlucky to have had 4 bad batches? I brought 2 x 2 (25 disc) tubs of DataWrite and same by 50 disc tubs Elite M.
Please help.
Thanks,
Ash
P.s. I have tried creating a new admin user account to see if I am able to burn under that. I get the same errors.
P.p.s. "Hopefully" this is just a media issue and I can find some that works again. If not and it is a drive fault what can I do? What writers spec'd same are available internal for my Mac Pro?
Message was edited by: AshleySmith06

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
If think you may be using the wrong speed-range media for that drive's capabilities. As I mentioned, there are two ranges, and 8X media cannot be written in a 2.4x (sometimes referred to as 4x) drive.
When you get an error message that actually tells you something concrete, you should listen to it:
CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT
... is pretty unambiguous. It's a problem with the Media.
Off-Brand media is the next weak link in the chain. One of their many problems is that they vary wildly from batch to batch. Verbatim media are thought to be the "gold standard". Get a small number of Verbatim Media and see if you can make ONE master on the best in the market. If you can, the problem is in the Media. If you can NOT, the problem is in the process.
Like I mentioned I have never had issue with Elite M before, and I always set Toast to burn "Best" under the recorder settings.
Here's what system profiler says for the disc and drive...
OPTIARC DVD RW AD-7170A:
Firmware Revision: 1.N8
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media:
Type: DVD+R DL
ID: UMEDISC DL1
Blank: Yes
Erasable: No
Overwritable: Yes
Appendable: Yes
Write Speeds: 1x

Satellite A300 - Can't burn dual layer DVD

Hi, I bought my laptop 10 months ago.
Since then Ive been burning a disk or two every now and then, no intense usage of the driver.
Last week I tried to burn a dual layer DVD, my driver seems not to be able to burn one. I used BurnXP a free burning software that supports dual layer and when it finished the first layer the program stoped responding, I tried 2-3 disk none worked.
Then I tried the latest version of Nero, everything seemed smooth (it burned both layers) until the burning process finished then I got an error message that the procedure was unsuccessful.
Ive tried different brands of disk "TDK" "Philips" "Verbatim" or something. None worked.
I tried a Philips disk on my desktop drive and it burned it just fine.
- Should I head for Toshiba service ?
- Is there any driver/firmware to fix my problem ?
PS: I searched for firmware upgrades but cant find a firmware for my drive .
I have the "matsita DVD-RAM uj-850s and I used the right type of disks DVD-
typ in advance.

>Then I tried the latest version of Nero, everything seemed smooth (it burned both layers) until the burning process finished then I got an error message that the procedure was unsuccessful.
You received this message but did you check the DL DVD after that?
Maybe the data was burned correctly?
I received a lot of time the message that the burning procedure was not successful but I tested then the disk and it was readable.
As far as I know the user manual should contains also some info about tested and compatible disk.
Maybe you should use the DL DVD recommended in this user manual.
But of course this could be also a hardware ODD issue.
In such case you should ask the ASP for the test and check!

Can't burn Dual Layer DVD-R on new Mac Pro?

Can't burn Dual Layer DVD-R on new Mac Pro?
I have a new Mac Pro with Pioneer DVD burner built in. I've since found out that it only burns Dual Layer +R type, and not the -R type.
My replication company need a Dual Layer -R type DVD as they can't get a glass-master off the +R type Dual Layer discs.
Can anyone recommend/suggest a cheap way of being able to either master off a DVD to Dual Layer -R disc, or perhaps copy my Dual Layer +R to a Dual Layer -R ?
Thanks guys.

Everything I have ever read about the DVD-R DL discs says the layer break can't be chosen by the author. It is not a DVDSP issue; it is an issue with the media.
This is actually listed in the DVDSP 4.1 Late Breaking News on page 15:
"Using DVD-R Dual-Layer Media
If your system contains a DVD drive that can write to the new DVD-R dual-layer media, you can burn your DVD project to it with DVD Studio Pro. However, there are several issues:
Since there is no current way for DVD Studio Pro to identify DVD-R dual-layer media as having two layers, burning a dual-layer project to it results in a warning appearing telling you that the DVD media may have insufficient room to hold the project. This message is based on the assumption that the disc is single layer. Both layers of the disc will be written to as needed, however, when you click Continue.
If you are burning a dual-layer project, the break point you set will not affect where the layer break actually occurs. Instead, the first layer is written to until filled, at which point the drive switches to writing to the second layer.
The switch between layers is a seamless layer change not supported by some DVD players, which may stop playing the disc when the switch point is reached.
Important: Do not use DVD-R dual-layer media unless these issues do not impact your project.
You can use DVD+R double-layer media for burning your dual-layer projects. With DVD+R double-layer media, DVD Studio Pro places the layer break point and sets the switch point to be nonseamless as specified in your project."
Can you tell us what drive you have and what firmware (revision) it is?

Problems burning dual layer DVD's

we have had lots of problems trying to burn dual layer dvd's. Single layer has been fine but is there some secret trick for getting dual layer to work? we have tried both the internal dvd burner and an external one and both are supposed to be dual layer capable.

about half of the ones we try get about half way through and then say media sense error (or similar wording) some of the others look like they have burned fine and then when it is writing the last little bit it just stops, this results in discs which are unreadable. The others look like they've burned fine and then don't play one of the items on the DVD once it is put in the machine.
Those that do play appear to stop about the level of the switch of layers.

Playing dual layer dvd's with iBook superdrive

I've burned a couple of dual layer DVD's (8.5GB) with my iBook G4 and an external Lacie DVD burner.
I used Toast 7, experiencing no problems at all.
The DVD's play perfectly using the Lacie driver itself, or my Sony DVD player, or even a 10-year-old Pioneer DVD drive on my PC.
But... my iBook Superdrive refused to even read them.
The disk just makes a couple of turns and then the superdrive ejects it with no message.
The superdrive plays perfectly the commercial dvd's, which I know are usually double layered.
Does that mean that superdrive is not compatible with burned dual layer dvd's?
iBook G4; iPod 60GB v1.2.1; iTunes 6; Airport Xpress Mac OS X (10.4.4)
iBook G4; iPod 60GB v1.2.1; iTunes 6; Airport Xpress Mac OS X (10.4.4)

I don't believe the SuperDrive for the iBook is set
up to read/write the dual layer DVD's.
I didn't expect it to write DL DVD's, that's why I used an external burner.
The problem is when reading the burned dvds
Go to your Apple Menu and select "about this mac".
Click on the "more info" button and navigate to the
Disc Burning label. Select it.
If your SD is dual layer compatible you'll see "+R
DL".
It says generically that SD reads DVDs
What speed were you burning the Dual DVD's on the
LaCie?
don't know, really, but Toast is set to burn disks at the best speed:
one was a DL DVD+R 8x, the other a DL DVD-R 4x
it's IMPOSSIBLE that SD can't read dual layer DVDs: commercial DVDs are 6-7GB, they MUST be DL and they play perfectly.
and if it really can't play burned DL DVDs, that's really a shame! >:-Z

IBook read dual-layer DVDs?

Does anyone know if the iBook G4 1ghz or higher can read dual-layer DVDs? Thanks.

Do you mean home made dual later DVD-Rs or commercially pressed DVD movies that are dual layered? The answer to both should be "yes". However, the software used to burn a home made dual layer DVD-R may or may not be compatible with a Mac...
-Doug

Error Burning Dual layer DVDs

I can burn single layer dvds and cds just fine however every time i try to burn Dual layer DVDs i get error message that there is a hardware failure. I have tried several DVD manufactures to no avail. I finallly had a hunch there was a corrupt file someplace so i created a new user account and burned the file from using Finder and the dual layer burned just fine with my new user account. I repaired permissions on the bad user account (USing the snow leopard dvd and using the Disk utlity) and still no luck. has anyone had or have heard of this issue? Any ideas on how to find the corrupty file causing Dual layer dvd burns to crash? Btw i have used Toast, Finder and Itunes to try and burn the dual layers. Any info on this would be great

Yep, I have the same problem. I've re-booted, check all logs, and I get the same error. I was burning the same file, the first two DVD's went well, then I got the Communication error.
I make a living in Graphics, so my clients have to have the files I've created... This is a MAJOR issue!

Creating Dual Layer DVDs

I'm trying to encode a dual layer DVD. I'm rendering the project with iDVD and creating a disk image of the DVD on my hard drive. I'm then using Disk Utility to burn the image to a DL disk. The DVD plays fine about half-way through on my DVD player and then freezes. I'm guessing the DVD player is having trouble transitioning to the second layer indicating there is a problem w/ the way it was encoded. The DVD player is functioning fine, as it does not have problems with other dual layered disks.
Is Disk Utility capable of burning a disk image formatted for dual layers onto a DVD? I don't know if iDVD is creating a bad dual layer disk image or if Disk Utility is incapable of encoding a dual layer disk image to a DVD.
Could someone please comment on what the best way to get a dual layer disk image transferred to a dl DVD using iDVD would be?
Thanks in advance.

I agree with Len. You'll have much better luck with Roxio Toast. Len is also very successful at burning from a disc image via Roxio Toast at 4x or slower. And this is really the best approach in my opinion. However I do want to point out exactly what the iDVD Help Menu states with regards to using a disc image and dual layer media. Pay special attention to the final paragraph below:
Creating a disc image of a project
You can create a disc image of your project so you can burn additional DVDs of your project without going through the encoding process each time.
Saving a disc image of your project creates a file that is formatted just like a finished DVD, except it’s not actually burned on a disc. All the media is compressed into the format used on a DVD, and you can play it on your computer by double-clicking the disc image icon and opening DVD Player.
To create a disc image:
Choose File > Save As Disc Image.
Type a name for the disc image.
Choose where you want to store the disc image.
Click Save.
You can use Disk Utility in Mac OS X to burn the disc image to a DVD when you are ready.
Note: If you burn your project to a double-layer disc, you should burn directly from iDVD rather than from a disc image. A disc-burning utility will not set the layer break according to DVD specifications and may cause playback issues.
Hope this helps
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