Deck control disapeared

I've been merrily using a Blackmagic Decklink HD Pro for ages now, turned everything off last night, all working fabulous, turned on this morning and the deck control has disappeared within FCP, got vision and audio but no deck control and it says no communication.
However
If I use the Blackmagic deck control software, it works fine and dandy.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled drivers. the dv deck control is fine.
Any ideas?
Tim

It's alright, all sorted
just uninstalled and reinstalled again and it worked!

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Well, as footnote to my previous post...
I have fixed 90% of all the strange behaviour & got my Decklink card working again by doing a clean install of OS 10.4.6, upgraded to 10.4.8, installed FCS 5, upgraded to 5.1.2, installed 5.7.2 decklink drivers and I'm editing to tape again.
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I have developed an issue with RS 422 deck control between my Black Magic Decklink HD Pro and a variety of Sony decks like a PVW 2800 which is my primary deck and also a DNW A25 and a DSR 1800 that I tested as well, getting the same issues.
I get an error message: “A new tape has been inserted in the VTR. You may wish to change the Reel setting.” or “Batch Capture: Tape is unthreaded” when neither is the case. They pop up randomly. Trying to find a cause and effect but it’s still random. Tried different tapes from different cameras and a DVCAM in the DSR 1800. Same thing again. I have replaced the cable with same results.
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I sent a note to BlackMagic Designs and got this: 'This is a known issue with the Apple platform. It is an Apple problem and they are trying to resolve it right now. We are hopeful to have a resolution shortly.'
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I finally found a person who's going through the same thing as me.... Have you figured it out yet? I can't get anything to work. My whole system is a write off unless this starts to work. If I don't figure it out by tomorrow I'm getting a Kona card.

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While in the capture window and using deck control to play and shuttle, the preview input(in the capture window) does not update while shuttling back or rewinding. To clarify, the preview works fine while playing, fast-forwarding or shuttling forward - the preview only fails to update during rewind or shuttling backwards.
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Been looking around for a day or 2 can no-el-findo. In the days of FCP v3.x people would use something called a "stealth port". Essentially an 8pin serial port that would replace the modem in your G4. Paired with an 8pin to RS422 cable you were off to the races in terms of deck control.
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Well, here's the latest incarnation of the list, but it isn't going to tell you what you want to know:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/resources/devicelist.php
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Greetings
First let me qualify this by saying that it's quite possible I'm missing something very basic in FCP and MAC config and use. I'm not immune to overlooking the obvious or stupid mistakes. So having said that...
I'm running a FCP 5 on a MacPro with a Kona AJA card.
In the course of trying to capture HD video from a Sony HVR-M25U deck I've had problems matching capture res/format and deck control. Tried every possible combo of capture and control preset available.
To make a very long story short, the best I could do was capture 1080i via the "capture now". (Obviously I don't get TC from the tape which will cause problems in future edit sessions.)
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Hi there:
I've been editing for years but this is my first Final Cut job. I was having a problem outputting an 8-minute sequence, geting an Incompatible Compression Settings error message. I am not sure why, because all the sources were either DV, aiff music/vo and jpegs, but a friend I asked suggested this solution. First I created a new sequence, making sure that everything was set to DV output (which it seemed to be in the previous, but anyway...). Then I nested my output sequence in the new one. I had to render stuff again, but it seemed that it would finally let me make a digital output to the deck.
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The DSR-11 is a mainly a player. It wasn't designed for mastering. There is no RS-422 deck control, and a few internal components and menu settings are missing, so you cannot master to the deck with timeline timecode. The only thing you can do is PRINT TO VIDEO, and the deck will start recording at 1:00:00:00. You cannot EDIT TO TAPE. The only way to do that is if you have RS-422 deck control, or you use firewire as deck control and send video out via another route, like SDI. The DSR-25 and 45 were the mastering decks.
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