Dedicated Hot Spare vs Global Hot Spare

Hi,
Is there an order of preference in which a spare is "put into service" (a drive fails)?  Here's my TS430 w/ RAID 500 card:
Two arrays:
SATA RAID 1 with dedicated hotspare for OS/boot
SAS RAID 10 with global hotspare for SQL 2008
I was unaware that one could not assign a single dedicated hotspare to a RAID 10 array.   It appears that RAID 10 dedicated spares can only be assigned  to each Span of the RAID 1 - this makes a total of 6 drives.
Since there isn't room in the hotswap bay for 9 drives, I have made the spare SAS drive as a global spare.
Can I assume if  one of the SATA RAID drives fail, it looks at the dedicated hotspare assigned to the array 1st or solely?  I know that I can not mix the SATA and SAS drives across an array, but I suspect that the SATA RAID will look at the dedicated hotspare only.
Thanks!
Al

> Should I leave a drive out of the raid setup to create a Hot Spare?
Should you? That's up to you to decide based on a number of factors including how long you're prepared to run with a failed drive in thebox, how much storage you need (if you can afford to lose one (or two) disks' worth of storage).
> Hot Spare?are automatically added if a drive goes down right?
Correct. If a drive fails and you have a hot spare then the RAID automatically initiates a rebuid on the spare. This can take some time, especially for large arrays, during which time you risk losing your data should another drive fail.
If you don't have a hot spare then you need to manually replace the drive. This adds an extra amount of time to the window where you risk losing data, ranging from minutes (you notice straight away and have a spare disk sitting on a shelf) to days (you're away on vacation and don't notice).
FWIW, in all the XServe RAIDs I've run for years I've had one single disk failure.

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    Ronald

    Nobody's got any answers? Bummer! The Apple manual says really nothing useful about how to aAsSsSeEsSsS error messages and when to replace drives, etc.
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    I shouldn't have to spend another $1k for a tech support contract, just to learn what things mean that should be explained in the tech docs...
    Ronald
    PS: will someone tell Apple's PC watchdog that aAsSsSeEsSsS has nothing to do with aAsSsS? AaSsSsEeSsSsMmEeNnTt is a technical term, yet it wouldn't want to let me post the message because it contained aAsSsSeEsSsS! What's next? Soon we can't use the word RAID anymore, because it's refers to undesirable violence...
    Someone please pick up a dictionary, in Tiger there's both a regular app and a widget to do so, so it shouldn't be that hard...

  • 300 GB disk as hot spare for 146 gb disk in stk 6140

    Hi,
    Does any body know this for sure?
    Customer plans to buy new tray with 300 gb fc disks.
    Also hey have old tray with 146 gb disks.
    They want to assign two 300 gb disks as hot spares for old 146 gb and for new 300gb disks.
    Will it work?
    If you can confirm that this works, does this depends on firmware revision or CAM version or something else?
    Thanks in advance!

    I have not seen this work but It's my understanding that hot spares are "array spares" and that a larger drive can be a spare for a smaller drive.
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  • MD3200i Shutdown with a Hot Spare in operation

    I have to shutdown our MD3200 to make some network modifications tied-  iSCSI and vCenter (replacing a switch)
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    Is it safe to bring down the Md3200 while the hot spare is in operation ?
    thanks

    Hello SJNAPL,
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    In my Solaris 10 RAID-5 volume, metastat shows the hot spare in use, but all the disks' state is Okay. Why is this? I do suspect the first disk was bad at one time, and may have been pulled out and re-inserted in without issuing any solaris commands. Please help explain why, and how to recover from this situation. Thanks.
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    State: Okay
    Hot spare pool: hsp000
    Interlace: 32 blocks
    Size: 860024640 blocks (410 GB)
    Original device:
    Size: 860032704 blocks (410 GB)
    Device Start Block Dbase State Reloc Hot Spare
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013A380d0s2 10506 No Okay Yes /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFAA17C8d0s2
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013A230d0s2 10506 No Okay Yes
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01012D7A0d0s2 10506 No Okay Yes
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E010128CE0d0s2 10506 No Okay Yes
    /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFC22131d0s2 10506 No Okay Yes
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01012D7B0d0s2 10506 No Okay Yes
    /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFAF377Fd0s2 10506 No Okay Yes
    hsp000: 1 hot spare
    Device Status Length Reloc
    /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFAA17C8d0s2 In use 143349312 blocks Yes
    Device Relocation Information:
    Device Reloc Device ID
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013A800d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01013a800
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013A850d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01013a850
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013ABD0d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01013abd0
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013B270d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01013b270
    /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFAA17C8d0 Yes id1,ssd@n20000004cfaa17c8
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013A380d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01013a380
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01013A230d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01013a230
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01012D7A0d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01012d7a0
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E010128CE0d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e010128ce0
    /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFC22131d0 Yes id1,ssd@n20000004cfc22131
    /dev/dsk/c10t500000E01012D7B0d0 Yes id1,ssd@n500000e01012d7b0
    /dev/dsk/c10t20000004CFAF377Fd0 Yes id1,ssd@n20000004cfaf377f

    Thanks for the suggestion. Tried "metahs -e ...". "Hotspare isn't broken, can't enable".
    Tried "metareplace -e ...", "d10: device ... enabled" It's currently in sync'ing mode. I guess drive 380 was pulled out and reinserted at one point without issuing the metareplace command.
    Edited by: user8636975 on Nov 29, 2011 8:05 PM

  • Replace the Hot Spare that Shared between Raid 1 and raid 5

    I have ProLiant ML370 G6  with Smart Array P410i Controller on System Board 
    I have two Logical Drive (Logical Drive 1 - Mirroring (RAID 1) And (Logical Drive 2 - Distributed Data Guarding (RAID 5)
    The logical Drive 1- Mirroring (RAID 1) Have two Physical Drives 
    The Logical Drive 2 Distributed Data Guarding (RAID 5 Have three Physical Drives
    And There Are One Spare Drive Shared btween RAID 1 and Raid 5 
    Controller Configuration Summary
    2 Data Array(s)
    2 Data Logical Drive(s)
    5 Data Drive(s)
    1 Spare Drive(s)
    The problem :
    there are that the spare Drive FAil and have warining To replace it 
    I  replace this drive with new one but the repulid for the Drive not start and Give Inactive 
    How Repulid the Hot Spare drive  ?

    Hello Amostafa,
    Welcome to the HP Forums, I hope you enjoy your experience! To help you get the most out of the HP Forums I would like to direct your attention to the HP Forums Guide First Time Here? Learn How to Post and More.
    I understand that you are looking to rebuild the hot spare drive on your ProLiant system, and I would be happy to guide you towards a resolution!
    I am sorry, but to get your issue more exposure, I would suggest posting it in the commercial forums, since this is a commercial product. You can do this at:   
    http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/ProLiant-Servers-ML-DL-SL/bd-p/itrc-264
    I hope this helps!
    Regards
    MechPilot
    I work on behalf of HP
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