Deductible and non-deductible tax in CIN???
Hi experts
Can anybody explain me about deductible and non-deductible tax in CIN.
Explain me with clear example from purchasing with excise duty point of view .
With some example of duty with some amount .
Thanks
SAP-MM
Hi,
Deductable Tax :- It is not part of your inventory...You have give Separate G/L in T code OB40.
Non Deducatable Tax :- Part of yout inventory. No Separate G/L.
Supppose PO 10 Qty @ 10 = 100 Rs
Tax 4% Vat = 4
Total 104.
Now In Case of Dedutable at Time of GR , GR/IR 100 Cr
Stock 100 Dr
At time of Excise Posting
Cenvat Account 4 Dr.
Cenvat Clearing 4 Cr.
Non Deducatable GR/IR 104 Cr
Stock 104 Dr
The Following Conditions Falls in both Category as
Deduct able tax:-
JMOP - IN BED Settoff %
JEC1 - A/P Edu. Cess Settoff
JSEP - IN A/P H Ecess Setoff
JVRD - A/P VAT RM Deductable
SETOFF Must Be Maintained:-
JMX1 -- IN: A/P BED setoff
JEX1 --- Ecess Setoff Sta
JHX1 IN: A/P SECess SOTot
Non Deductable Tax:-
JMIP - IN BED Inventory
JEC2 - A/P Ecess Inventory
JSEI - IN A/P H Cess Inventory
JIPC - IN C Sales Tax INV
JVRN u2013 A/P VAT RM Non-Ded.
Condition For CVD in CIN :-
JCV1 - IN CVD e.g. 14%
JECV - IN CVD Prim Edu e.g. 2%
J1CV - IN CVD Sec Edu e.g. 1 %
Hope Help U !
Regards,
Pardeep malik
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velu+91-9789991357IN CIN u have Excise Utlisation and excise
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