Deduplication in backups and Lightroom Tiff edits
Oh wise ones…I come to you with this to see if you have any insight
Have a lightroom client that is using backblaze as a secondary cloud backup for her lightroom files and images.
Recedntly had a crash and they sent her her drive with all the images - YEA
She has noticed that not ALL of the TIFF files are included
I trouble shooted everything with her and there appears to be no reason why they were not backed up. She is using Lightroom and Photoshop. Raw files go to Photoshop come back as a Tiff so she has XXXX1.RAW and XXXX1.Tiff is she goes out to another program that files comes back as XXXX1-edit.tiff and or XXXX1-edit-edit.tiff.
All saved in the same folder all the time
I did find this on back blaze website:
Our software contains a process called "deduplication" where files are digitally fingerprinted (checksummed) before they are sent to the server. When a file's fingerprint (SHA-1 checksum) matches an already backed up file, but it's renamed or moved (including drive to drive), it's simply updated at the servers, rather than re-transmitted.
You may see these files queued for back up, but once any given file is at the front of the queue, it will be checksummed, compared against the existing backup, and "deduplicate" resulting in it being updated on the server rather than re-uploading
Could this mean that double triple processed images from Lightroom are not getting saved. This could be a HUGE issue
Thoughts?
Hello Jonathon,
Thank you for the reply. It appears that the edits made in lightroom are being passed to photoshop the way LR 2x would act when selecting "Edit with Lightroom adjustments". I just do not get any options. Photoshop is opened and the image is passed to Photoshop as a DNG.
I have checked all the Lightroom preferences and cannot see anything that is configurable that could cause this behavior. I checked my LR 3 in Vista and LR 3 in Windows 7 and they act identically.
The original problem of not keeping the adjustments corrected itself when I removed the beta version of Photoshop CS5.
Jim
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