Define Account Determination IDs and CO Account Determination

Hello experts, I need to know what is the conceptual difference for the following customization:
First the difference between:
Define Account Determination IDs for Contracts
Define Account Determination IDs for Contract Accounts
Should I replicate the Account Determination IDs at this point?
Second the difference between:
Define CO Account Assignment Keys
Store CO Account Determination Key for IS-U Contracts
Should I replicate the CO Account Determination at this point?
Best regards.

Hello,
FYI.....
Define Account Determination IDs for Contracts
Here you map the Account determination Id & Division to the company code. Thus a link is established between AID and Div at you Cocd level.
Define Account Determination IDs for Contract Accounts
Here you determine the ID for Contract accounts. This in turn is attached to contract accounts in CAA1/CAA2.
Based on the above two steps you configure map the MT/ST to AID and Divison in EK01 & EK02.
Define CO Account Assignment Keys
Here you map the Cost Centers & Profit centres to the Cocd. This establishes the relation ship between CC , PC & Cocd.
Of course again you have to map the above to MT/ST in EK01 & EK02.
Store CO Account Determination Key for IS-U Contracts
you define the CO account assignment key that is used together with the company code to derive account assignments for cost accounting.
I did not get your question on replication. Do you have CRM too in your project?
Hope the above helps
Rgds
Rajendra

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