Define value in value field for CO-PA analysis.

Hello everyone,
I am looking to determine the values of a custom value field I created. This new value field is activated and assigned to an operating concern and I am able to use it in my form.
Now I would like to "link" my field value to an GL account in FI. How can I do this?
Thanks.

Hi Elodie,
Just to add to Pavan's reply you need to use tcode KEI2.
In case of SD to COPA transfer you need to map the SD condition to the value field
regards
Waman

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OSS note 160892
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