Defining a Logical System

I'm trying to follow the Best Practices note, "B84: BI Connectivity" for SAP BW 7.0 dated August, 2007.
On the second step, 1.2, "Defining a Logical System", I reach the second sub-step, clicking "Define Logical System". After the harmless warning, "Caution: The table is cross-client", then I get an error.
If I'm logged in as SAP* (client 000), I get the error, "No changes for user SAP* allowed".
If I'm logged in as ddic (client 000), I get the error, "User DDIC may not make changes in customer systems".
I'm still very new to SAP and don't understand these kinds of permissions issues at all. Two questions:
1) How can I resolve this issue?
2) Is there a good book that I can read to understand these kinds of administrative issues better?

Hi,
you to login as a development user or administration user into your BI client (100 e.g) but not as SAP oder ddic which are reserved users with special authorizations. Client 000 is a special client used for installation and creating the working or devleoping client where you set up /customize your BI later.
With htis development user you can then change the logical systems table, which is valid for all clients in te system!
Hope you got an idea
Juergen

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