DEINTERLACE FILTER in FCP=====

Hi,
When I apply the deinterlace filter whether it be in FCP, Compressor, or some third-party software, do I match it with the field dominance of what my video is?
For example, most DV video is Lower (Even) so do I set the deinterlace filter to be Lower (Even) as well or does it work somehow counter effectively if I set it to Upper (Odd)??
Thanks!

However, setting Field Dominance to "None" if the source material is interlaced results in a blending of the fields - and field blending is the least attractive way to deinterlace. I suggest Compressor with Frame Controls well adjusted, or Graeme Nattress's superb plug-in.
A good starting point for Compressor is outlined here.

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Just when I thought I new how progressive and interlaced are working....

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I thought I new the difference between progressive and interlaced but I've still got a few questions. For the most part... i get it. Progressive is like 1 solid picture. Interlaced breaks up the picture into interlaced lines and 2 fields, odd and even . Great, that much I've got.
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It's not surprising that you're confused. It's a pretty confusing subject. Hopefully, I can help you get some sense out of it.
Most of your questions stem from not quite understanding the definitions of "deinterlacing", "progressive frame rate", and "field dominance". Let's start with the last since it pertains to your first question.
When you have interlaced footage, you have 2 fields (as you noted) per frame. One field is drawn on the Odd (or Upper) scan lines of the TV. 1,3,5,7...down to 479. The other field takes the Even (or Lower) scan lines: 2,4,6,8...480. Together they are woven into a single frame.
The field dominance in your sequence settings determines which field is drawn first. DV and NTSC in general is Lower field dominant and if your footage is DV, you should not change this. Interlaced HD is typically Upper field dominant. Again, under most circumstances, this should not be changed. What will likely occur is a "tearing" of the image in movement, particularly noticed in pans or fast action. None draws each line successively which is how progressive footage needs to be interpreted.
However, progressive does NOT mean deinterlaced. Nor does deinterlaced mean progressive. If you use the deinterlace filter in FCP on your DV footage, you merely remove one field from your footage and REPLACE it with a copy of the field you kept. In other words, if you set the deinterlace for Upper, then the clip will copy the image in the Lower field and paste it into the Upper field. The footage will still be interlaced.
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The deinterlace option in Compressor is the same as the filter in FCP, but as you know now, that's not the same thing as making a file progressive.
Finally, the AV settings for the clip you placed in Compressor are the same as the sequence settings in FCP. They help the program determine how the file should be displayed. If you have DV footage, and you switch the dominance in that setting or in FCP, then you risk having your footage look jittery and generally no good.
I hope this clears things up for you a bit.
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Is it understood that every Quicktime file that you deliver to a professional DVD authoring house should be progressive? Or do I need to ask? Or do some DVD authoring houses make DVDs from interlaced files.
A house I delivered to didn´t bother to tell me that they waned progressive files, because they thought it was so obvious that everybody used progressive.
The program I delivered was 100 per cent made from dv footage, so therefore I would have to deinterlace my self. Is the interpolation in the deinterlace filter in FCP any good? could it be compared to the interpolation filter in Photoshop.

"Professional" is meaningless around here. Your duplication house was correct but your client wasn't. You needed to know what the delivery format was BEFORE you started the job. A progressive DVD is usually meant for display on computers only. Anything that is meant to be viewed on a television/video monitor is—usually—output to DVD interlaced, unless, of course, you're going for that film look.
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